About rules on Christian dating

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The Sons of GOD were fallen angels.

The characteristics of the "sons of God" have been debated. Some say they
were members of the aristocracy of that day who married attractive women
from among the commoners. Others say they were renegade spirit creatures
who donned fully functioning human avatars-- replete with synthetic male
genomes --so they could cohabit with women; thus producing a hybrid
strain of hominid freaks. Others say they were God-fearing men who threw
caution to the wind and built themselves harems of humanistic women who
believed and practiced existential philosophies.

The latter seems the more likely seeing as how intermarriage between
believers and unbelievers is often frowned upon in both the Old Testament
and the New.

* The label "son of God" is somewhat ambiguous in the Old Testament. For
example in Ex 4:22-23 an entire people are identified as God's kin.

Lots daughters were not burned. They escaped with Lot.

Two of his girls were still living at home (Gen 19:8) and at least two others
were married (Gen 19:12-14). Only two escaped that we know of. (Gen 19:30)
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[Dirtman]

So wait until one is married before one's mind is clouded with hormones? No reason you cannot find out what a prospective mate's dreams, beliefs, and plans are when holding hands or cuddling on the couch.

Because maybe you should be kicking her to the curb rather than cuddling with her. But your brain is clouded with dopamine and you dont see those toxic tics. Next thing you know youre married to a nut and headed down divorce alley and dont how ya got there, because you were thinking with your mind in a flutter. And then just like half the marriages around western culture its broken and the children are the collateral damage.

 

[Amanuensis]

In the above post you use the word "hell" twice...

You appear to have a very hard manner and legalistic attitude!

But each to their own!

Jesus mentioned it about 70 times if I am not mistaken. Unfortunately there are many who are deceiving themselves by repeating false teachings that fornicators will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. But they will not. Repentance is required. It's not open for debate.

 

[JohnB]

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The characteristics of the "sons of God" have been debated. Some say they
were members of the aristocracy of that day who married attractive women
from among the commoners. Others say they were renegade spirit creatures
who donned fully functioning human avatars-- replete with synthetic male
genomes --so they could cohabit with women; thus producing a hybrid
strain of hominid freaks. Others say they were God-fearing men who threw
caution to the wind and built themselves harems of humanistic women who
believed and practiced existential philosophies.

The latter seems the more likely seeing as how intermarriage between
believers and unbelievers is often frowned upon in both the Old Testament
and the New.

* The label "son of God" is somewhat ambiguous in the Old Testament. For
example in Ex 4:22-23 an entire people are identified as God's kin.



Two of his girls were still living at home (Gen 19:8) and at least two others
were married (Gen 19:12-14). Only two escaped that we know of. (Gen 19:30)
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Interesting note on Lot and his 2 daughters. "Another Rabbinic view was that Lot secretly lusted after his daughters. He was intoxicated when the elder sister lay with him, but he was sober when she rose, as is indicated in the Torah by the dot over the word u-ve-komah (“when she rose”). Despite his knowledge of what had transpired, he did not refrain from drinking wine the next night as well, and lying with his younger daughter (Gen. Rabbah 51:8–9).

 

[JohnB]

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A season is set for everything,
A time for every experience under heaven.
Solomon ben David, Ecc 3:1

Life can't be put on hold, nor a moment be sealed in a zip-lock bag to be
savored later because moments are momentary. The instant moments
happen, they become fixed in the frozen sea of the past. People who think to
save themselves for marriage for example, can do no such thing. One cannot
save life as if it were possible to put life in storage. No, life goes on; it moves
ahead with or without us.

When people try to save themselves for later; they only end up letting
themselves go to waste because youth isn't static; no, youth is left behind
like the treads of a rope bridge crumbling off behind us for every step
taken as we cross over to the other side; ergo: the time to live life is while
we have it; not wait to live it later after we've gone to seed. That rope
bridge steadily gets to the point when there are no treads left to retrace
our steps.

Young people should enjoy a young person's life to the fullest while they
have the chance because there is a lot to life that can be fully enjoyed only
while we are young. Age takes the pleasure out of many things in life that
were once fresh and exciting.

Romance especially is dulled by age. When we're young; love and romance
take our breath away, we can't sleep for the excitement, and all can think of
is being with our lover. Well, when we get older, it's not like that. And I don't
mean real old either. People in only their mid thirties and forties no longer
feel the same electricity.

As a case in point, I dated a little in high school. Afterwards, during three
years of active duty in the Army I avoided girls and did no dating at all. After
discharge, I dated a girl when I was 21 and then completely lost interest in
dating till I was 32. But guess what? That decade of celibacy rendered me
almost completely frigid. I could feel very little chemistry with girls; they
were simply people of a different gender.

The only reason I married at all is because of the aging process. One day
while shaving, as I looked in the mirror I noticed my face beginning to sag
and my hair thinning and receding. It was a wake-up call. I realized the time
of life for attracting a girl and starting a family was rapidly slipping away
where before I gave it no thought at all.

I let my past go too fast
No time to pause.
If I could slow it all down,
Like some captain whose ship runs aground,
I could wait until the tide comes around.
RUSH, Time Stand Still, 1987

Life is one of those things that we cannot go back and do over. We're only
young once; and we feel the energy of the young only once too; and that's
for a relatively brief time compared to the remainder of our lives; and for this
kid there's not much left 'cause I'm pushing 79.
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I had to copy and paste this to show to others who are younger. If they listen to the church about waiting on GOD for a spouse (which is not in the bible about waiting for a spouse) they lose precious time. I'm almost 69 and lost so much time. At least I still have time left to try and make it up.

 

[JohnB]

Jesus mentioned it about 70 times if I am not mistaken. Unfortunately there are many who are deceiving themselves by repeating false teachings that fornicators will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. But they will not. Repentance is required. It's not open for debate.

So if someone has sex outside of marriage a few times, they will not be saved? I think you need to look at how the word fornication is used in the verses.

 

[JohnB]

So if someone has sex outside of marriage a few times, they will not be saved? I think you need to look at how the word fornication is used in the verses.

The way to avoid forication is to get married.

 

[oyster67]

The way to avoid forication is to get married.

No.
Getting married does not fix the root problem.

1 Corinthians 6
19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

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[JohnB]

No.
Getting married does not fix the root problem.

1 Corinthians 6
19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

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But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 1 Corinthians 7:9

But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 1 Corinthians 7:2

 

[ResidentAlien]

The only rule GOD had for singles is, no sex before marriage and we fail many times at that. I guess for some GOD rule was higher enough. They have to place their own restrictions on dating. I read an interesting comment on this. Some churches put fear into Christian singles dating. Try to stop the hurt and pain from dating. Hurt and pain is a part of life. Dating is a learning process and some Christians and churches are interfering with that process. What do you think?

Is it restrictions period you have a problem with or only certain ones? For example, should parents have the right to tell their daughters at what age they can start wearing makeup? Do they have the right to set the age at which their sons or daughters can start dating? If a 13 year old goes out with a guy who rapes here is that just part of the hurt and the learning process?

 

[oyster67]

each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.

Amen! I am so relieved to hear you say that. Sexual relations are for marriage and marriage alone.

 

[JohnB]

Amen! I am so relieved to hear you say that. Sexual relations are for marriage and marriage alone.

than you agree the main purpose of marriage is to have sex.

 

[JohnB]

Is it restrictions period you have a problem with or only certain ones? For example, should parents have the right to tell their daughters at what age they can start wearing makeup? Do they have the right to set the age at which their sons or daughters can start dating? If a 13 year old goes out with a guy who rapes here is that just part of the hurt and the learning process?

Those limits are set by the family, not GOD.

 

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Unfortunately there are many who are deceiving themselves by repeating
false teachings that fornicators will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. But they
will not. Repentance is required.

Below is a popular proof text.

• 1Cor 6:9-11a . . Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators . . . nor adulterers
. . . will inherit the kingdom of God;

Is that saying repeat offenders are lost? No; it's only saying that because
fornication and adultery are hell-worthy, then it goes without saying that
those practices are conduct unbecoming for folks who've undergone the
remainder of that passage which says:

"And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were
sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the
Spirit of our God." (1Cor 6:11b)

The Greek word translated "justified" can be roughly understood to indicate
that on the books, it's as though someone has never been anything but
100% innocent their entire life.

Here's something:

• Matt 5:7 . . Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

Not everyone is capable of feeling compassion, empathy, or sympathy. Most
can fake it, but not everyone can feel it due to a dysfunctional childhood,
military training, or faulty amygdalae, etc. Will the stone-hearted be lost?
Some will; but not those who are were washed, sanctified, and justified in
the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

• Rom 8:2 . Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free
from the law of sin and death.

Here's another something:

• Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

I sure hope you don't expect your peers to believe that you your own self
are capable of finishing out the remainder of your life 100% honest; viz:
zero deceit, zero deception, zero pretense, zero dissembling, zero cheating,
zero fraud, zero craftiness, zero insincerity, zero false impressions, zero
hypocrisy, zero fibs, zero tale-spinning, etc.

* An apparently little known fact among Christians is that when folks buy
into Jesus' crucifixion for their sins, and the return to life of his crucified
dead body; that's when God stops keeping a running account of their hell
worthy deeds.

• 2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not
imputing their trespasses unto them.

The Greek word in that passage for "imputing" is logizomai (log-id'-zom
ahee) which means to keep an inventory; in other words: an indictment.

From that moment on, all sins committed by Christ's followers cease to go
on record as evidence to be held against them and become family matters
dealt with in the home rather than criminal matters to be dealt with in court.
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[tourist]

Because maybe you should be kicking her to the curb rather than cuddling with her. But your brain is clouded with dopamine and you dont see those toxic tics. Next thing you know youre married to a nut and headed down divorce alley and dont how ya got there, because you were thinking with your mind in a flutter. And then just like half the marriages around western culture its broken and the children are the collateral damage.

There is a thing called discernment in regard to choosing a prospective spouse. If I was a single man I would stick with the cuddling. Gonna hold hands too, gaze in her eyes, and toss her hair thusly about. What I'm describing is called affection. What you are describing is cold indifference. That's not gonna cut it in the dating game.

 

[Dirtman]

There is a thing called discernment in regard to choosing a prospective spouse. If I was a single man I would stick with the cuddling. Gonna hold hands too, gaze in her eyes, and toss her hair thusly about. What I'm describing is called affection. What you are describing is cold indifference. That's not gonna cut it in the dating game.

Certain affection in its due time; ok. Cuddling together; if you're that serious you should be it least engaged to be married.
Also I'm glad I am married and have been for 27 years. I would not be able to date in this world. I do not envy the youngsters of this age. Right now at 49 years old if I found myself single, I doubt I would be interested in starting from scratch with someone. The prospect of that is horrifying. It would be like shopping a salvage yard for the least damaged car. She would be doing the same. Isnt that a picture of desperation? Nah, thats hopeless. I would just go fishing instead.

 

[tourist]

Certain affection in its due time; ok. Cuddling together; if you're that serious you should be it least engaged to be married.
Also I'm glad I am married and have been for 27 years. I would not be able to date in this world. I do not envy the youngsters of this age. Right now at 49 years old if I found myself single, I doubt I would be interested in starting from scratch with someone. The prospect of that is horrifying. It would be like shopping a salvage yard for the least damaged car. She would be doing the same. Isnt that a picture of desperation? Nah, thats hopeless. I would just go fishing instead.

I'm glad that I'm married too and like yourself, do not envy young adults contemplating a relationship. I got remarried after the death of my late spouse and did in fact, start from scratch. My wife, having been single for the last 35 years started from scratch too. Actually, it's not the easiest thing to do. Relationships can get complicated in a hurry.

 

[oyster67]

than you agree the main purpose of marriage is to have sex.

No John. That post really saddens me.

Revelations 19
7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Marriage is a holy and sacred sacrament that signifies the glorious and wonderous communion we shall all share in Heaven with Jesus someday. Our marriages are meant to be a shining foretaste of our glorious future with Jesus. Love far transcends your cuddling and petting and sexual intercourse, my friend.

 

[tourist]

than you agree the main purpose of marriage is to have sex.

More like a fringe benefit.

 

[JohnB]

There is a thing called discernment in regard to choosing a prospective spouse. If I was a single man I would stick with the cuddling. Gonna hold hands too, gaze in her eyes, and toss her hair thusly about. What I'm describing is called affection. What you are describing is cold indifference. That's not gonna cut it in the dating game.

I remember being in church singles group and the speaker quoted. Song of Solomon 8:4 "Daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you: Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires" The speaker told the group not to get your emotions going until you're married. They quoted from 8:4 and ignored Song of Solomon 1:2 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth—for your love is more delightful than wine." They took the verse completely out of context.