The Rapture Doctrine.....Truth or Fiction?

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soberxp

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Runningman said:
I take it that you had a vision. Sounds amazing.

Stephen saw something like that in Acts 7.
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Thank you for reminding me that what Stephen did was exactly what I wanted to do. I wanted to do this not out of my own will, but out of the Father's will.

I have thought about it lately. I have people I hate very much, but what if I also be hate in the eyes of others? Then I should try to accept others, or forgive others, so that I can be reasonably allowed to be forgiven by others.

Act 7, Yes, when I saw Jesus, he showed me the pyramids of Egypt.When God's Redemption Plan began at Egypt In the early days .

And end at Act 7:59-60

I am trying and trying to achieve this standard, which is also the style of Jesus Christ.
 
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Stop these ignorant religious doctrines. Belief is lively and persuasive, and God's anger is the evil result that human beings themselves have eaten.

Do you still remember that God created people in his own image.
Do you still remember that Juese is the image of God?
Do you still remember that Jesus said he was not doing his own will but of the father?
Do you still remember that God said in Genesis that man should manage everything in the land and water ?
If you remember this, this is so called Obedience.

Since the Babel era, when human beings wanted to live in their own way, God began to worry Because God is justified in doing so. Look at the world now. There are plastic particles everywhere in the ocean. These things are poisoning every living thing in the ocean, and then poisoning the stomach of human beings. Human beings live in their own way. They have no sense of responsibility, just for greed and financial resources, and ignore these proper management. This is the result of disobeying God's words, that is, death, perhaps not immediate death, But it is slow and deadly.

This is God's wrath, because it is a rule that God cannot do anything. As Mao Zedong said, there is no savior, we can only rely on ourselves.
 
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soberxp said:
I have people I hate very much...Stop these ignorant religious doctrines...As Mao Zedong said, there is no savior, we can only rely on ourselves.
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Precious friend, sorry to hear these things; I will pray for you:

Grace, Peace, JOY And LOVE In The LORD And Saviour, Jesus Christ!
 
soberxp

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soberxp said:
Stop these ignorant religious doctrines. Belief is lively and persuasive, and God's anger is the evil result that human beings themselves have eaten.

Do you still remember that God created people in his own image.
Do you still remember that Juese is the image of God?
Do you still remember that Jesus said he was not doing his own will but of the father?
Do you still remember that God said in Genesis that man should manage everything in the land and water ?
If you remember this, this is so called Obedience.

Since the Babel era, when human beings wanted to live in their own way, God began to worry Because God is justified in doing so. Look at the world now. There are plastic particles everywhere in the ocean. These things are poisoning every living thing in the ocean, and then poisoning the stomach of human beings. Human beings live in their own way. They have no sense of responsibility, just for greed and financial resources, and ignore these proper management. This is the result of disobeying God's words, that is, death, perhaps not immediate death, But it is slow and deadly.

This is God's wrath, because it is a rule that God cannot do anything. As Mao Zedong said, there is no savior, we can only rely on ourselves.
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Well, I've pointed it out to you, the rebel one.
 
soberxp

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GRACE_ambassador said:
Precious friend, sorry to hear these things; I will pray for you:

Grace, Peace, JOY And LOVE In The LORD And Saviour, Jesus Christ!
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Stop your fool game, and update everyday.

There is no savior, we can only rely on ourselves.If you willing the God's wrath on earth.

God can't help us change our environment. He is only have wrath about this problem.

Jesus is the Saviour of our soul or life, but not the Saviour of our earth.
 
oyster67

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soberxp said:
Stop your fool game, and update everyday.

There is no savior, we can only rely on ourselves.If you willing the God's wrath on earth.

God can't help us change our environment. He is only have wrath about this problem.

Jesus is the Saviour of our soul or life, but not the Saviour of our earth.
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Translation trouble? :unsure:
 
soberxp

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oyster67 said:
Translation trouble? :unsure:
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What I want to express is that human beings live according to their own will, and then all the problems come together. For these problems, human beings have no savior, and can only rely on themselves. If human beings do not act as the savior of these problems, then when these problems become more serious, then it is the day of God's wrath.
The plastic particle garbage in the ocean is just a bad consequence of mankind according to their own will, but the wrath of God that mankind faces is not only that
 
JonathanBentley

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I believe the rapture is at the 7th trumpet however I believe in a pre tribe rapture for the young and old and those who can't spiritually handle the tribulation.
 
soberxp

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Stop these ignorant religious doctrines. Belief is lively and persuasive, and God's anger is the evil result that human beings themselves have eaten.

Do you still remember that God created people in his own image.
Do you still remember that Juese is the image of God?
Do you still remember that Jesus said he was not doing his own will but of the father?
Do you still remember that God said in Genesis that man should manage everything in the land and water ?
If you remember this, this is so called Obedience.

Since the Babel era, when human beings wanted to live in their own way, God began to worry Because God is justified in doing so. Look at the world now. There are plastic particles everywhere in the ocean. These things are poisoning every living thing in the ocean, and then poisoning the stomach of human beings. Human beings live in their own way. They have no sense of responsibility, just for greed and financial resources, and ignore these proper management. This is the result of disobeying God's words, that is, death, perhaps not immediate death, But it is slow and deadly.

This is God's wrath, because it is a rule that God cannot do anything. As Mao Zedong said, there is no savior, we can only rely on ourselves.

Revelation 8:9
One third of the living creatures in the sea died, and one third of the ships were damaged.

What are one-third of the ships on the sea?

1.warship
2.cargo ship
3.Fishing boat

At that bad moment, is there will be fishing boats going out to sea to catch the poisoned fish？
 
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Randy4u2c said:
What happens if you believe in the rapture and Satan comes first, before the real Lord, saying he has come to rapture or fly you away? Because you are taught the rapture theory, you may easily be deceived.
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I know the difference between Christ and Satan. And Satan won't come near me. I engage in spiritual warfare continually. You know, resist the devil and he will flee.
 
oyster67

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JonathanBentley said:
I believe the rapture is at the 7th trumpet however I believe in a pre tribe rapture for the young and old and those who can't spiritually handle the tribulation.
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Trumpets have always been a common way to herald many major events throughout history.

The pre-trib rapture is for all God's children, past as well as present. It is for all the Church Bride.
 
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