Do You Know What is “The Pillar and Ground of The Truth”?

[RaceRunner]

1 Timothy 3:15

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

 

[Dino246]

A little understanding of grammar will go a long way in answering the question.

 

[ResidentAlien]

1 Timothy 3:15

What's your understanding of this passage?

" . . . he is puffed up, understanding nothing, but is morbidly concerned with disputes and word battles, from which come envy, strife, slanders, evil suspicions, constant wranglings of men of corrupt minds and deprived of the truth . . . " 1 Timothy 6:4-5

 

[Pilgrimshope]

1 Timothy 3:15

“who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; and, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:13-23‬ ‭

when your referencing the church your referencing the body of Christ he is the foundation of creation itself nothing came before or after that changes it everything is coming from Christ who is the beginning of the church

 

[RaceRunner]

“who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; and, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:13-23‬ ‭

when your referencing the church your referencing the body of Christ he is the foundation of creation itself nothing came before or after that changes it everything is coming from Christ who is the beginning of the church

What do you believe is the correct poll option; That scripture doesn't say Jesus?

 

[RaceRunner]

A little understanding of grammar will go a long way in answering the question.

Which of These Poll Options is "The Pillar and Ground of The Truth"?

 

[RaceRunner]

What's your understanding of this passage?

" . . . he is puffed up, understanding nothing, but is morbidly concerned with disputes and word battles, from which come envy, strife, slanders, evil suspicions, constant wranglings of men of corrupt minds and deprived of the truth . . . " 1 Timothy 6:4-5

Which of These Poll Options is "The Pillar and Ground of The Truth"?

 

[Dino246]

Which of These Poll Options is "The Pillar and Ground of The Truth"?

You haven't answered my questions. Why should I answer yours?

 

[RaceRunner]

You haven't answered my questions. Why should I answer yours?

I am kind of glad you are not voting.

 

[TMS]

Jesus is the word made flesh.
The living example of the word.
So i say Jesus and the scripture.
The scripture is the standard of truth to test all things.
There will come many claiming to be Christ, and we will know by the word, that they are not true.
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

 

[RaceRunner]

Jesus is the word made flesh.
The living example of the word.
So i say Jesus and the scripture.
The scripture is the standard of truth to test all things.
There will come many claiming to be Christ, and we will know by the word, that they are not true.
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What do you believe is the correct poll option; That scripture doesn't say Jesus?

I answered Jesus and yes brother it does say Jesus

“who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son that’s Jesus ) in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:13-18‬ ‭

how does this not answer “ Jesus “ is the beginning and end ?

“he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”

that means he himself is the foundation and is before everything else

“in all things he might have the preeminence.”

That means he is above all things

I think Jesus is the answer brother because without Jesus nothing else in scriptire would have a fulfillment and none of the promises he spoke would have been made

but it’s just my opinion to your question it seems to me Jesus is the foundation of everything we believe

 

[RaceRunner]

I answered Jesus and yes brother it does say Jesus

“who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son that’s Jesus ) in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:13-18‬ ‭

how does this not answer “ Jesus “ is the beginning and end ?

“he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”

that means he himself is the foundation and is before everything else

“in all things he might have the preeminence.”

That means he is above all things

I think Jesus is the answer brother because without Jesus nothing else in scriptire would have a fulfillment and none of the promises he spoke would have been made

but it’s just my opinion to your question it seems to me Jesus is the foundation of everything we believe

house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

 

[ResidentAlien]

house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

We hear you, we're not deaf. Are you that insecure?