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Well the question was what would have been the pre-mosquito in an evolutionary scenario. So, I coined the term 'mosquitito'.
Well almost. ‘Fly’ in Spanish is ‘mosca’ so ‘mosquito’ is a ‘small fly’. (Not to be confused with French Fry.) lol
 

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Any cure for the common headache?
Consider visiting a Homeopathic Dr. in your area for potential Natural Remedies...
Odds are that their initial recourse will be to conduct a Detox and make recommendations for removing certain foods and beverages from your diet as well as suggesting a more organically balanced diet...
In the mean time consider adding D3 and Zinc to your daily set of vitamins...
 

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Consider visiting a Homeopathic Dr. in your area for potential Natural Remedies...
Odds are that their initial recourse will be to conduct a Detox and make recommendations for removing certain foods and beverages from your diet as well as suggesting a more organically balanced diet...
In the mean time consider adding D3 and Zinc to your daily set of vitamins...
I'm allergic to organic health foods and no way will they touch my white sugar, processed foods, preservatives and red meat intake. But thanks for the warning anyway. (I'm the kind of person that adds a little bit of coffee to their sugar :giggle: )
 

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I'm allergic to organic health foods and no way will they touch my white sugar, processed foods, preservatives and red meat intake. But thanks for the warning anyway. (I'm the kind of person that adds a little bit of coffee to their sugar :giggle: )
LOL, well if you're just looking for a means to mitigate the headaches periodically as they come - there are lots of over the counter meds... But I am not aware of any such meds that offer a cure... IMHO and cure means to provide a resolution so as to eliminate the cause of the headaches...
 

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Speaking of Space-X Launch... One of my relatives from Az re-posted this from Arizona... That's "A" mountain near the University of Arizona in Tucson, Az.
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SpaceX launched a Falcon 9 rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California on Thursday night.
Viewers could catch the bright orange rocket flames from at least 100 miles away, stretching to Malibu, Cambria, Mount Pinos, Newbury Park, Nevada, Arizona and Sonora, Mexico.
The mission involved transporting 53 Starlink satellites into orbit. This particular Falcon 9 rocket has completed eight liftoffs and landings so far. SpaceX has sent over 3,500 satellites to the Starlink internet constellation, providing internet service around the world.
 

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Heading off to the apple orchards in N Georgia tomorrow...(around Blairsville)

Baked apples and apple pies and apple fritters. Maybe a little hard cider too.

Dunno what kind of trouble we will find.
 

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I remember when Sputnik was the space marvel. Everyone would pile outside in the evening to see if they could steal a glance as it shimmered in the twilight skies.
 
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Heading off to the apple orchards in N Georgia tomorrow...(around Blairsville)

Baked apples and apple pies and apple fritters. Maybe a little hard cider too.

Dunno what kind of trouble we will find.
I associate peaches with Ga. Heard it through the grapevine apples do best where hard freezes occur. Maybe Or. or Mi. Although when water quality was questionable man needed that cider. Preferably hard?! Not for me any more.
 

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I associate peaches with Ga. Heard it through the grapevine apples do best where hard freezes occur. Maybe Or. or Mi. Although when water quality was questionable man needed that cider. Preferably hard?! Not for me any more.
The Appalachian mountain chain extends down through TN and into GA.
The area we are heading to is about 4,000 ft above sea level. Not the most ideal but good enough for this area. The higher elevation gets the cooler temperatures to keep the apples from ripening too soon. The extra rich soil of the area also helps the flavor...

Mostly I'm wanting to go because of the tradition of my youth in Idaho this time of year.
 

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Heading off to the apple orchards in N Georgia tomorrow...(around Blairsville)

Baked apples and apple pies and apple fritters. Maybe a little hard cider too.

Dunno what kind of trouble we will find.
they are good. and that is a fun trip up there.
 
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  • Strictly Germ-Proof
  • The Antiseptic Baby and the Prophylactic Pup
    Were playing in the garden when the Bunny gamboled up;
    They looked upon the creature with a loathing undisguised;
    It wasn’t disinfected and it wasn’t sterilized.
    They said it was microbe and a hotbed of disease;
    They steamed it in a vapor of a thousand-odd degrees;
    They froze it in a freezer that was cold as banished hope
    And washed it in permanganate with carbolated soap.
    In sulphurated hydrogen they steeped its wiggly ears;
    They trimmed its frisky whiskers with a pair of hard-boiled shears;
    They donned their rubber mittens and they took it by the hand
    And ’lected it a member of the Fumigated Band.
    There’s not a micrococcus in the garden where they play;
    They bathe in pure iodoform a dozen times a day;
    And each imbibes his rations from a hygienic cup —
    The Bunny and The Baby and The Prophylactic Pup.
 
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GOD looks at the heart but men look at outward appearances or things seen with one or more of the five senses
See,Taste,Hear,Smell or Feel.
 

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I've been looking at machining....the slow shaving of pieces of metal to form shapes. It usually requires such things as mills and lathes to form chips....speeds and feeds to make the proper chips so you don't destroy the cutters...

You can make a complete machine shop for around $20k complete with all the tools and equipment. And you would be capable of making just about anything.
BUT

I was looking more specifically at making clocks as a piece of art. Specifically what is referred to as skeleton clocks because the gears are all exposed and intended to be seen.
These sort of clocks aren't the most accurate but can be fairly accurate with the time. Gain or loss of 5 minutes a day is fairly normal for spring wound....more accurate for weight driven clocks. Mostly they are semi functional artistic pieces to accentuate an office or home.

Modern artistic clocks are not cheap time pieces....often retailing for $20,000 or more simply because of the type of brass they have been made out of. Engravers brass is very expensive. But this sort of brass lasts a very very long time. Each wheel gear is individually machined out of a blank with some fairly complicated trigonometric algebra....even when repeated over the 54 wheels an average clock will have.

The money paid for these high end pieces in no way actually pays the artisan craftsman for his time...it barely covers materials. Most of these clocks will have over 2,000 hours of labor poured into them and get maybe $10,000 in return over the cost of materials and tooling.

Where a simple airplane part made out of titanium alloy will return $70 for maybe an hour.

So who buys these ticking, chiming annoyances that look pretty?

I don't know.
 
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Sense Kari Lake lost the election will she give a concession speech or will she follow the lead of Donald Trump and claim that the election was stolen?
 
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I've been looking at machining....the slow shaving of pieces of metal to form shapes. It usually requires such things as mills and lathes to form chips....speeds and feeds to make the proper chips so you don't destroy the cutters...

You can make a complete machine shop for around $20k complete with all the tools and equipment. And you would be capable of making just about anything.
BUT

I was looking more specifically at making clocks as a piece of art. Specifically what is referred to as skeleton clocks because the gears are all exposed and intended to be seen.
These sort of clocks aren't the most accurate but can be fairly accurate with the time. Gain or loss of 5 minutes a day is fairly normal for spring wound....more accurate for weight driven clocks. Mostly they are semi functional artistic pieces to accentuate an office or home.

Modern artistic clocks are not cheap time pieces....often retailing for $20,000 or more simply because of the type of brass they have been made out of. Engravers brass is very expensive. But this sort of brass lasts a very very long time. Each wheel gear is individually machined out of a blank with some fairly complicated trigonometric algebra....even when repeated over the 54 wheels an average clock will have.

The money paid for these high end pieces in no way actually pays the artisan craftsman for his time...it barely covers materials. Most of these clocks will have over 2,000 hours of labor poured into them and get maybe $10,000 in return over the cost of materials and tooling.

Where a simple airplane part made out of titanium alloy will return $70 for maybe an hour.

So who buys these ticking, chiming annoyances that look pretty?

I don't know.
Maybe you could auction pieces on the internet. I did sell some things on Ebay some years ago and they had some way you could set a minimum price but I didn't use that feature. Maybe something to look into and other possibly similar auction sites. So is engravers brass accurately controlled alloy Cu/Sn or additional elemental mix? Once upon a time Oxygen free Cu was all the rage for thermal conductivity properties. How O free Cu is verified!?? Another thought. Seems Swiss region comes to mind with 'fine' time pieces so maybe they also look at just 'elegance' according to type and still considered 'fine'.
 

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Maybe you could auction pieces on the internet. I did sell some things on Ebay some years ago and they had some way you could set a minimum price but I didn't use that feature. Maybe something to look into and other possibly similar auction sites. So is engravers brass accurately controlled alloy Cu/Sn or additional elemental mix? Once upon a time Oxygen free Cu was all the rage for thermal conductivity properties. How O free Cu is verified!?? Another thought. Seems Swiss region comes to mind with 'fine' time pieces so maybe they also look at just 'elegance' according to type and still considered 'fine'.
From what I've learned recently is that copper, zinc, tin, lead and other elements is what goes into brass/bronze. When buying there's an ASTM number that you go by to get the right formulation for the properties of what you need. There's a lot of different formulations out there. All of it is double in price from what it was a year ago.

There is Ebay...but most on there want too much for what they are selling. Brass/Bronze is commodity priced anymore...like gasoline. Just about everyone makes it. Most that do specialize in particular forms or recipes of it. Plus with all the home remodeling the demand for brass/bronze has gone through the roof. It's used extensively in plumbing fixtures, wiring, and decorations. (Nobody uses pure copper...everyone uses "red brass").

And yes, the Swiss have a thing for horology....from clocks to watches they have it down pat. You have to apprentice under a master before you get accepted.
But $40,000-$20,000 for a "dust collector" is good money. About a quarter of that is the cost of the brass used. The cost of cutting and polishing is not reflected.

Ticking clocks aren't exactly popular because of the noise and are expensive as well. There really is not much of a market for the old technology. The art is dying for quartz/digital accuracy. We used to have clocks everywhere...the bank, churches, city centers...clock towers are now of a bygone era. If there happens to be a clock tower chiming in a city center people look at their cell phones and wonder why the chiming is off and early. *sigh* (it's supposed to be)
Owning a grandfather clock was once a sign of wealth.
Today they are abandoned or forced upon adult children as a family heirloom of some sort....(Which never goes over well)