Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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John146

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Psalm 17:10-14
Their hearts are hard as nails, their mouths blast hot air. They are after me, nipping my heels,
determined to bring me down, Lions ready to rip me apart, young lions poised to pounce. Up,
God: beard them! break them! By your sword, free me from their clutches; Barehanded, God,
break these mortals, these flat-earth people who can’t think beyond today. I’d like to see their
bellies swollen with famine food, The weeds they’ve sown harvested and baked into famine
bread, With second helpings for their children and crusts for their babies to chew on.


I checked 60 (61? :unsure:) versions. That's the only one that has those two words together.
The sun travels in a circuit.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Dear Lucy,
i greatly appreciate your love in Christ and i am looking forward to meeting you when we are together in Glorified Bodies (or should God permit us to meet beforehand).

NASA had Stanley Kubrick in 1969, who admitted that he filmed the 'moon landing' = on earth.
NASA also brought in Walt Disney for the project.

PLEASE do this for yourself = Look at the 'pictures' NASA has generated of the 'globe earth' from space over the years.

EARTH Evidence =
So Mr Kubrick faked the earth & moon and lied to the world, but now he is telling the truth and we should trust him?

The chap in your video is a hoaxer. He is pretending an azimuthal equidistant map of the globe Earth is a real-time representation.
No one has ever taken an image of a flat earth or charted a FE map. Data from established sciences you've already branded as
deception cannot be used as supporting evidence for your proposal.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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The sun travels in a circuit.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
The sun travels in a circuit.

As veiwed from Earth yes. Because the scritpure is written from an Earth-centric point of view. He explains things so we can relate to them. He told Moses that he made the sun and moon for light. And for us to use for marking time & seasons. This was at a time when most of the nations were worshipping those lights as gods. The seasonal change, day/night cycle & passage of years is only possible
on the spherical Earth placed just were it is orbiting the sun among stars & planets.

We are the centre of his attention. We don't need to be the physical centre of the solar system for that to be true. '
He put the Earth in a position where it would sustain the kind of life God had planned.

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
 

John146

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The sun travels in a circuit.

As veiwed from Earth yes. Because the scritpure is written from an Earth-centric point of view. He explains things so we can relate to them. He told Moses that he made the sun and moon for light. And for us to use for marking time & seasons. This was at a time when most of the nations were worshipping those lights as gods. The seasonal change, day/night cycle & passage of years is only possible
on the spherical Earth placed just were it is orbiting the sun among stars & planets.

We are the centre of his attention. We don't need to be the physical centre of the solar system for that to be true. '
He put the Earth in a position where it would sustain the kind of life God had planned.

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
The scripture is given by inspiration of God. If scripture states that the sun travels in a circuit, then the sun travels in a circuit. That's the truth, not man's perspective.
 

Magenta

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The scripture is given by inspiration of God. If scripture states that the sun travels in
a circuit, then the sun travels in a circuit. That's the truth, not man's perspective.
2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
3 They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.


From the same Psalm. They being "the heavens."

And, God has pitched a tent for the sun.

Tell me that you do not take that literally? And how do you read this?

Nothing is deprived of its warmth. It being the sun.

Nothing in all creation, or nothing on earth?
 
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So Mr Kubrick faked the earth & moon and lied to the world, but now he is telling the truth and we should trust him?

The chap in your video is a hoaxer. He is pretending an azimuthal equidistant map of the globe Earth is a real-time representation.
No one has ever taken an image of a flat earth or charted a FE map. Data from established sciences you've already branded as
deception cannot be used as supporting evidence for your proposal.
Everybody has a conscience.
Some people's conscience can be "seared as with a hot iron".
Some people experience a change in their conscience especially as they get older = 'death bed confessions'.

Mr. Kubrick's conscience was beginning to privately reveal, leak out, to the world that the moon landing was a hoax.

Just days later he died - get it.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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The scripture is given by inspiration of God. If scripture states that the sun travels in a circuit, then the sun travels in a circuit. That's the truth, not man's perspective.

If God said he hangs the Earth over nothing then he hangs the earth over nothing that's the truth.
If a curcuit is true, hanging over nothing is also true.

I didn't say scripture wasn't inspired by God. There is much truth delivered in deliberate poetic language and Hebrew is a highly metaphorical language. If you don't want God to explain what we need to know in a way humans can understand why read The Bible
at all?

The sun appears to "come up" in the morning. We still use the terms sunrise & sunset even though we know the Earth is turning.
The ancients called the planets 'wandering stars' because of their seeming movement against a backdrop of fixed stars. It's relational
to our view from earth.
 
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The sun travels in a circuit.

As veiwed from Earth yes. Because the scritpure is written from an Earth-centric point of view. He explains things so we can relate to them. He told Moses that he made the sun and moon for light. And for us to use for marking time & seasons. This was at a time when most of the nations were worshipping those lights as gods. The seasonal change, day/night cycle & passage of years is only possible
on the spherical Earth placed just were it is orbiting the sun among stars & planets.

We are the centre of his attention. We don't need to be the physical centre of the solar system for that to be true. '
He put the Earth in a position where it would sustain the kind of life God had planned.

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
No - not as viewed from earth = the Scripture is written in TRUTH.

Lucy, Have you forgotten what our LORD says to us: "Thy word is Truth" - John ch17

Globalist deception is the earth revolves around the Sun = Sun Worship

God declares that the Sun, Moon and Stars has a SET ORDER from the CREATOR that HE placed in the sky(lower heavens) for "times, seasons and days".

"God is not mocked" and the Globalist mockers will be judged for eternity = (Globalist mockers are the unsaved satanists who perpretrated the lies for thousands of years now.)
 
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2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
3 They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.


From the same Psalm. They being "the heavens."

And, God has pitched a tent for the sun.

Tell me that you do not take that literally? And how do you read this?

Nothing is deprived of its warmth. It being the sun.

Nothing in all creation, or nothing on earth?
Simple= a Tent is a covering = HE created the Sun and gave it a covering that HE has not yet revealed to us and that is not seen by the visible eye.

There is so much that has been hidden by the Globalists thru their deception which began thousands of years ago.
 

Magenta

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Simple= a Tent is a covering = HE created the Sun and gave it a covering
that HE has not yet revealed to us and that is not seen by the visible eye.

There is so much that has been hidden by the Globalists thru their deception which began thousands of years ago.
So God hid these things but you blame the globalists? Got it...
 
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The scripture is given by inspiration of God. If scripture states that the sun travels in a circuit, then the sun travels in a circuit. That's the truth, not man's perspective.
A passage simply needs to have a correct context. In some cases, there are multiple possible contexts.

"His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." - Psalm 19:6 KJV

I would argue that we need to accept some passages from man's perspective. An example of this is the crucifixion accounts and the colour of Jesus' robe.
 
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So God hid these things but you blame the globalists? Got it...
Two separate 'hidings'

#1 = GOD
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter. - Proverbs

#2 = Evil
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, Romans ch1

Now can you SEE ???
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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No - not as viewed from earth = the Scripture is written in TRUTH.

Lucy, Have you forgotten what our LORD says to us: "Thy word is Truth" - John ch17

Globalist deception is the earth revolves around the Sun = Sun Worship

God declares that the Sun, Moon and Stars has a SET ORDER from the CREATOR that HE placed in the sky(lower heavens) for "times, seasons and days".

"God is not mocked" and the Globalist mockers will be judged for eternity = (Globalist mockers are the unsaved satanists who perpretrated the lies for thousands of years now.)
The fiends! They will even deny that men have breasts with milk!

His breasts are full of milk, and his bones are moistened with marrow. Job 21:24 KJV
 
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The fiends! They will even deny that men have breasts with milk!

His breasts are full of milk, and his bones are moistened with marrow. Job 21:24 KJV
Can anyone teach knowledge to God,

since He judges those on high?

23One man dies full of vigor,

completely secure and at ease.

24His body is well nourished,

and his bones are rich with marrow.


Amazingly beautiful and rich in truth
 

maxwel

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IMAGINATION:

I don't think the earth is round OR flat, because I don't think it exists.
I don't think any of you people exist.
I think you're all just a figment of my imagination.


* Some of your ideas are so half-baked you're not even a whole figment... you're just half a figment.

* And some of you guys are at least 2 figments... some of my figments need a bit of dieting.

* And then some of you guys can't even spell figment, but you're in my imagination, so I guess that's my own fault.



Anyway, that's my opinion: all you guys are just a figment of my imagination.

The real question is... why can't my imagination do better?

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IMAGINATION:

I don't think the earth is round OR flat, because I don't think it exists.
I don't think any of you people exist.
I think you're all just a figment of my imagination.


* Some of your ideas are so half-baked you're not even a whole figment... you're just half a figment.

* And some of you guys are at least 2 figments... some of my figments need a bit of dieting.

* And then some of you guys can't even spell figment, but you're in my imagination, so I guess that's my own fault.



Anyway, that's my opinion: all you guys are just a figment of my imagination.

The real question is... why can't my imagination do better?

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Because inside your head is a water ball spinning thru 'unoccupied' space......................

This message was presented to you by the Love of God in Brotherly humor - Peace
 

Dino246

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No - not as viewed from earth = the Scripture is written in TRUTH.

Lucy, Have you forgotten what our LORD says to us: "Thy word is Truth" - John ch17

Globalist deception is the earth revolves around the Sun = Sun Worship

God declares that the Sun, Moon and Stars has a SET ORDER from the CREATOR that HE placed in the sky(lower heavens) for "times, seasons and days".

"God is not mocked" and the Globalist mockers will be judged for eternity = (Globalist mockers are the unsaved satanists who perpretrated the lies for thousands of years now.)
Nobody is arguing against God's word being true. This has nothing whatsoever to do with alleged "globalist propaganda".

Human interpretation of God's word is always subject to re-examination. You simply don't have the authority to declare your interpretation to be the only valid one.

Also, you need to understand the nature of relative truth. What is "true" to one observer may not be true for another observer. An observer in Israel sees the sun setting, and at the same moment, and observer in Hawaii sees it rising. Which is true? You can't claim "God's absolute truth" in this case. Rather, you must consider the perspective of the observer-writer where it may affect the interpretation, as it does in this case.
 
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Nobody is arguing against God's word being true. This has nothing whatsoever to do with alleged "globalist propaganda".

Human interpretation of God's word is always subject to re-examination. You simply don't have the authority to declare your interpretation to be the only valid one.

Also, you need to understand the nature of relative truth. What is "true" to one observer may not be true for another observer. An observer in Israel sees the sun setting, and at the same moment, and observer in Hawaii sees it rising. Which is true? You can't claim "God's absolute truth" in this case. Rather, you must consider the perspective of the observer-writer where it may affect the interpretation, as it does in this case.
Peace Brother,

I do not declare my interpretation to be the only valid one.

Please allow me to suggest the following guidelines for Revelation set forth by our LORD & Savior Jesus Christ.

#1 God only speaks Truth to us =
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

#2 His Truth is not subjective nor does it vary =
Can anyone teach knowledge to God - Job 21
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

#3 God cannot lie =
Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise the immutability of His counsel, confirmed it by an oath, that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie

#4 "no lie comes from the Truth" = 1 John 2:21

#5 Become a child before Him = Matt 18:3