Ball Earth conundrums

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posthuman

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the conundrum is that only a spherical earth model in an heliocentric solar system is able to explain universally observed reality.

the conundrum is that flat-ites are desperate to keep the reader from hearing the actual truth.
flat-earth conspiracy absolutely depends on people remaining incredibly ignorant of actual science and fact.

the conundrum is that even though the truth is evident & plainly seen, many reject the truth. it is more pleasant & vain for you to believe you are special and only you know what is right, contrary to everything all living souls on earth see 4 times a day with the eyes God gave them. it appeals more to pride. this is the heart of all "conspiracy theories" -- vanity.
 
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GaryA said:
To do otherwise will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are 100% happy with swallowing whatever you are told without ever questioning it.
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you are not correct solely on the basis that you reject what you have been taught.
ubiquitously common fallacy in the conspiracy forum.

rejecting knowledge is not "virtue" - it's idiocy.

give me a working model that explains sunrise/sunset as universally observed by the eye of every living soul created by God?
no?

huh.
well then.
QED
 
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"no flat earth model can explain the universally observed phenomenon of sunset/sunrise"

@GaryA is this not a true statement?

If it is true, why are you so devoted to trying not to allow the truth to be proclaimed?

If it not true, why can't you give me a working model of flat earth dlthat doesn't defy all know ln physics?


as far as I can see, you're riding an imaginary high horse and blowing a bunch of smoke trying desperately not to let the common reader realize you're full of ####, frankly.

But FE is old by Internet standards now. Everyone knows it's BS except for 13yr Olds who haven't had basic physicals classes yet.

You're pretty sad to still be doing this in 2022 IMO without any usable model. You still have not met the objections raise 10 years ago - - WTF are you doing acting like you have a clue?
 
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@GaryA no one here is fooled by you except 6th grade pre-teens who have never learned the truth about the physical world.
The longer you keep doing this, the more ashamed the whole church is of your behavior.

Please either give me a working model of a pancake that explains the universal observation of sunrise & sunset, or STFU and quit embarrassing all of Christianity with your stupidity.
<<YES i said stupid; see proverbs 12:1>>


Thanks.
 
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posthuman said:
There is zero explanation from the flat-people to explain how observational reality as it pertains to temperature and seasons can possibly be explained in their ridiculous model.

In keeping with the spirit of the OP please refrain from speaking anything true or communicating any factual information.
This thread is specifically designated for spreading lies and disinformation.
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It’s actually quite simple, the suns travels around the earth at varying heights and distances. This causes the seasons and changes in day light. Here is a simple crosssection time lapse photo of a year. C63FD522-8ABB-4D10-B359-C8226B58CF15.jpeg
 
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SavedByGrace00 said:
Actually you don’t even need gravity, it’s all just Buoyancy and density. Gravity is needed to make you believe in space. 😂
All kidding aside, a submarine is basically a metal tube with all the important stuff on the inside because the ocean is a harsh environment ( water pressure ). Space is also a harsh environment ( vacuum ) yet for some reason all the Important stuff is on the outside of the space station. It’s only there so you can watch them do these silly space walks to make you believe there is something beyond the firmament.
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some of the space walks are to repair our weapons up there.
 
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You just need a good lesson in watch the vanishing point is, your eyes tell you the ocean is flat as you look out at i


If you can explain to me how a SR71 blackbird goes only Mach 3 and somehow they get a giant school bus to go Mach 24 I would take the heliocentric model more seriously. Mach 24 😂
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Psalm 19
Contemporary English Version
(A psalm by David for the music leader.)
The Wonders of God and the Goodness of His Law
1 The heavens keep telling
the wonders of God,
and the skies declare
what he has done.
2 Each day informs
the following day;
each night announces
to the next.
3 They don't speak a word,
and there is never
the sound of a voice.
4 Yet their message reaches
all the earth,
and it travels
around the world.

In the heavens a tent
is set up for the sun.
5 It rises like a bridegroom
and gets ready like a hero
eager to run a race.
6 It travels all the way
across the sky.
Nothing hides from its heat.

7 The Law of the Lord is perfect;
it gives us new life.
His teachings last forever,
and they give wisdom
to ordinary people.
8 The Lord's instruction is right;
it makes our hearts glad.
His commands shine brightly,
and they give us light.

9 Worshiping the Lord is sacred;
he will always be worshiped.
All his decisions
are correct and fair.
10 They are worth more
than the finest gold
and are sweeter than honey
from a honeycomb.

11 By your teachings, Lord,
I am warned;
by obeying them,
I am greatly rewarded.
12 None of us know our faults.
Forgive me when I sin
without knowing it.
13 Don't let me do wrong
on purpose, Lord,
or let sin have control
over my life.
Then I will be innocent,
and not guilty
of some terrible fault.

14 Let my words and my thoughts
be pleasing to you, Lord,
because you are my mighty rock[a]
and my protector.
 
GaryA

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posthuman said:
Gary tells me i am not allowed to expose the lies of this falsehood in this thread; it is purposefully designed to shelter you from the truth.
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What falsehood - the Ball Earth model?

Yeah - that sounds just like the Ball Earth model - one of Satan's biggiest lies and greatest attempts to keep people from the truth...
 
GaryA

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posthuman said:
we know what this thread is really about.
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What this thread is really about - is - addressing Ball Earth conundrums strictly from within the Ball Earth model - without using any arguments from any other model(s). Because, the Ball Earth model has failures of its own that may be examined strictly from within the Ball Earth model.

It either stands on its own, or it does not.

If it needs to compare itself to any other model(s) so as to be "valid by comparison [only]", then it does not stand on its own.

It is that simple.

This thread is intended to:

~ offer the most fair way possible to examine Ball Earth conundrums.

~ show that the Ball Earth model - "all by itself" - has conundrums.
 
GaryA

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posthuman said:
pretty sure that the guy who desperately wants no one to expose his private disinformation to be revealed as disniformation is the guy who "can't handle it"
why seek to restrict the conversation so that truth is not allowed to be spoken? so that only false accusations can be printed?
we are not idiots. we know what your preaching is.
we know what this thread is really about, and why you have sought to pretend it's something else and keep certain informations and knowlege from being openly spoken of in this thread.
you're trying to make a 'clean room' in which your false preaching appears almost viable, by way of removing all opposition voices. that's fascism, Gary.
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Pretty sure you "can't handle" anyone starting a thread that [directly] questions the Ball Earth model.

I create a thread with the intent of allowing discussion that is solely about the Ball Earth model - and, you want to "trash" it with :poop::poop::poop: instead of discussing the 'conundrums' presented - totally from within the Ball Earth model - with not even a mention of any other model.

Just Ball Earth.

I thought that you of all people on CC would be happy to have a thread based entirely upon the Ball Earth model.

If you cannot discuss 'Ball Earth' in a 'Ball Earth [only]' thread - I am not sure just exactly what your problem is...???

I am not "preaching" anything in this thread - I am only presenting 'Ball Earth conundrums' for discussion - so that "answers" could be given that may [possibly] "solve" the conundrum.

Nothing is being "hidden" - Ball Earth conundrums are being presented for discussion. Anyone is welcome to present Ball Earth conundrums. Anyone is welcome to present "answers"/"solutions"/etc. to those Ball Earth conundrums.

Discussion about other models is 'forbidden' in this thread. Why? So that it may be a "sanctuary" of sorts for Ball Earth folks - to discuss Ball Earth conundrums - without having to deal with any other models.

Just Ball Earth.

Anyone who is not willing to discuss Ball Earth model conundrums from a [strictly] Ball Earth model perspective is hereby asked to not participate in this thread.





Some folks seem to be "really mixed up" or something --- all you want to talk about in a Flat Earth thread is Ball Earth, and all you want to talk about in a Ball Earth thread is Flat Earth... :confused: :cautious: :unsure: :rolleyes:

Here is your chance to do what you hope for most...

In this thread: No Flat Earth. (Shhhhh.) Only Ball Earth.

Only Ball Earth questions. Only Ball Earth answers.





If you want to declare that "Ball Earth [only]" discussions are "pure evil" - well - what does that say about the "Ball Earth indoctrination since birth" issue...???
 
GaryA

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posthuman said:
..., why are you so devoted to trying not to allow the truth to be proclaimed?
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The only thing I am "devoted" to in this thread is staying on topic - how about you?

posthuman said:
as far as I can see, you're riding an imaginary high horse and blowing a bunch of smoke trying desperately not to let the common reader realize you're full of ####, frankly.
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The only one full of #### and blowing smoke is you.
 
GaryA

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kinda

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TheLearner said:
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Before watching the video, I want to point out, I don't believe in the Flat Earth Model. The video below was created by a Flat Earther to bring doubt on NASA's Moon Program, and the mainstream view of the convex Earth. I believe he has a valid point and wanted some clarification.

Those who believe in the mainstream view of the Heliocentric Model, I would like someone to explain away the doubt that the youtuber made of the Blue Marble.


 
kinda

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posthuman said:
the conundrum is that only a spherical earth model in an heliocentric solar system is able to explain universally observed reality.
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posthuman, will all do respect, I would say, the Concave Hollow Earth, or Cellular Cosmology is the only earth model to explain universally observed reality.

Now, I believe this is Gary's thread, and he only wants to talk about Heliocentric model, or does the ball earth debate include Concave Hollow Earth?!!

I do agree with you that the Flat Earth is so annoying to talk about, but I think the intention of this thread, without actually reading it, was to question the validity of the Heliocentric Model. Am I right or mistaken?



GaryA said:
Pretty sure you "can't handle" anyone starting a thread that [directly] questions the Ball Earth model.

I create a thread with the intent of allowing discussion that is solely about the Ball Earth model - and, you want to "trash" it with :poop::poop::poop: instead of discussing the 'conundrums' presented - totally from within the Ball Earth model - with not even a mention of any other model.

Just Ball Earth.


I am not "preaching" anything in this thread - I am only presenting 'Ball Earth conundrums' for discussion - so that "answers" could be given that may [possibly] "solve" the conundrum.

Just Ball Earth.

Anyone who is not willing to discuss Ball Earth model conundrums from a [strictly] Ball Earth model perspective is hereby asked to not participate in this thread.


Here is your chance to do what you hope for most...

In this thread: No Flat Earth. (Shhhhh.) Only Ball Earth.

Only Ball Earth questions. Only Ball Earth answers.

If you want to declare that "Ball Earth [only]" discussions are "pure evil" - well - what does that say about the "Ball Earth indoctrination since birth" issue...???
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Gary, I want to participate in this thread, because I also question the validity of the Heliocentric Model. We can be allies in this thread, but in Flat Earth Threads, no so much.


 
DavidTree

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posthuman said:
the conundrum is that only a spherical earth model in an heliocentric solar system is able to explain universally observed reality.

the conundrum is that flat-ites are desperate to keep the reader from hearing the actual truth.
flat-earth conspiracy absolutely depends on people remaining incredibly ignorant of actual science and fact.

the conundrum is that even though the truth is evident & plainly seen, many reject the truth. it is more pleasant & vain for you to believe you are special and only you know what is right, contrary to everything all living souls on earth see 4 times a day with the eyes God gave them. it appeals more to pride. this is the heart of all "conspiracy theories" -- vanity.
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THE conundrum for all who believe the Egyptian/Babylonian heliocentrism is that God has said otherwise.

The evident and clear truth is what the Creator said in His Word = earth is stationary and the sun moon and stars move on a God Ordained Circuit.

The sun and moon are not millions of miles away either = total deception.

"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse."
Romans ch1
 
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