The State of the World Today! Is it the Endtimes??????

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Dude653

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Actually most of my friends are Christian and I don't know a single question who thinks the world is ending in six years
Jehovah's witnesses believe that because they are a death cult That's I mentioned it
 

ZNP

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When does the Bible speak about time ending?
In the book of Revelation 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
 

ZNP

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Every one of these scriptures supports my argument
Your argument was that all Christians need to be watching for the Lord's return?
 

Dude653

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Your argument was that all Christians need to be watching for the Lord's return?
Yeah sure. Prepare for the end and do what you need to do but I don't see how any of the scriptures you posted is support your argument that the world is ending in 6 years
My argument is that the Bible says no one knows except God and n the scriptures out of Matthew supported my argument
 

Dude653

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It says he will come like a thief in the night. Thieves in the night don't tend to announce when they're coming
 

ZNP

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Yeah sure. Prepare for the end and do what you need to do but I don't see how any of the scriptures you posted is support your argument that the world is ending in 6 years
My argument is that the Bible says no one knows except God and n the scriptures out of Matthew supported my argument
I never said the world is ending in 6 years. You jump into discussions when you are completely clueless about the word of God and you have the horrible bad habit of translating what people actually say which you obviously do not understand. Why don't you go find the post and see what I actually said.
 

ZNP

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It says he will come like a thief in the night. Thieves in the night don't tend to announce when they're coming
A thief will get caught if the watchman is doing his job. If not you wake up in the morning and realize you have been robbed.
 

Dude653

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[QUOTE="ZNP, post: 4961

1The entire world will see Jesus return on the clouds by the Spring of 2029.[/QUOTE]
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ZNP

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[QUOTE="ZNP, post: 4961

1The entire world will see Jesus return on the clouds by the Spring of 2029.
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So the world will see Jesus and you equate that to "the end of the world"?

Why would you do that, it is simply confusing and makes people think you are referring to when the new heaven and new earth come in.

Jesus returns on the clouds, He defeats the Antichrist, and then He establishes a 1,000 year millenial reign on earth and this is called "the restoration of all things". So the world does not "end" when Jesus returns, it gets a 1,000 year makeover to restore it.
 

TabinRivCA

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Well thank you for quoting a scripture that we can look at.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

So before being told that we don't know the day or hour he tells us that this generation (referring to the fig tree generation when Israel shot forth the new leaves again after the winter was over).

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Yes, the prophecy that Israel would be reformed is one of the greatest prophecies in the Bible along with Ezekiels vision of the dry bones living again. There are pictures of the people in the death camps after WWII looking like skeletons walking out of their graves. These prophecies being fulfilled should be a powerful confirmation to us that the Lord's words will not pass away and that they will all be fulfilled.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

This verse is a powerful word that tells us there is no prophecy in the Bible or in other books like the book of Enoch that tell us the day and the hour. The Fig tree generation prophecy tells us the generation. So we have two sides of the coin. There are prophecies that will tell us that the Lord's coming is at hand, and that it is very near, but there will not be any prophecy that tells you at 2am on Nov 14th the Lord returns. That is the kind of hoax that the cults have used.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Wow, do you see that your verse about not knowing the day or hour is stuck between a prophecy that tells us the generation and a prophecy that likens it to the days of Noah! Didn't Noah know what week the flood was going to hit? The world mocked him, ridiculed him, ignored his warnings and they were caught by surprise. But Noah and his family weren't.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

So how do we reconcile this? I already gave you several verses in Post #24 that tells you that God doesn't do anything without telling his prophets. He told Ezekiel and Daniel and other prophets like Joel key pieces to the puzzle that let us know the day is approaching, but He didn't tell any of them the day or hour. That doesn't mean He won't tell prophets in the future the day and hour. Otherwise how is it like the days of Noah and what is the point of the warning to the church in Sardis and how is Amos true when he says God does nothing without telling the prophets?
The problem I have with telling the prophets is....for what reason? Are the prophets going to tell people that they better be ready on that certain day? Wouldn't many people take advantage of that info and perhaps goof off til the day, the true Christians being ready at all times?
 

ZNP

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The problem I have with telling the prophets is....for what reason? Are the prophets going to tell people that they better be ready on that certain day? Wouldn't many people take advantage of that info and perhaps goof off til the day, the true Christians being ready at all times?
You will be judged based on three criteria:

1. Your church fellowship

2. Your personal walk with the Lord

3. Your ministry.

What I have seen is as people see the Lord's return is near they become much more serious about all three.
 

Dude653

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So the world will see Jesus and you equate that to "the end of the world"?

Why would you do that, it is simply confusing and makes people think you are referring to when the new heaven and new earth come in.

Jesus returns on the clouds, He defeats the Antichrist, and then He establishes a 1,000 year millenial reign on earth and this is called "the restoration of all things". So the world does not "end" when Jesus returns, it gets a 1,000 year makeover to restore it.[/QUOTE]
I thought the globalists were going to do the One world government thingy.
That's what you said on another posts so I guess they better hurry up cuz they only have 6 years
 
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kaylagrl

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It says he will come like a thief in the night. Thieves in the night don't tend to announce when they're coming

We don't know the day but we can know the season. Israel becoming a nation again pushed us forward and much closer than any other time in history.
 

Dude653

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We don't know the day but we can know the season. Israel becoming a nation again pushed us forward and much closer than any other time in history.
Dates and milk? .. I'm not claiming that the prophecy is not going to happen but I don't think dates and milk is proof of a prophecy being fulfilled
Isn't there supposed to be a prophecy about a temple being rebuilt?
Also Israel was already a nation.
They are apartheiding the Palestinians but that's another topic
 

Billyd

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Are you going to spend the rest of your spreading a message that the end is upon us, and find that at the end of your life that God is still the only one who knows?

Are you prepared for Christs return (saved)? If you are, go about your daily business and share the Gospel every chance you get. This end is now stuff makes it difficult to share the Gospel.
 

Dude653

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Are you going to spend the rest of your spreading a message that the end is upon us, and find that at the end of your life that God is still the only one who knows?

Are you prepared for Christs return (saved)? If you are, go about your daily business and share the Gospel every chance you get. This end is now stuff makes it difficult to share the Gospel.
Yeah that's the whole point I've been making. The Bible says only God knows when the end is coming so running around preaching this into the world rhetoric just makes Christianity look like a cold that wants the world to end
 

ZNP

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Are you going to spend the rest of your spreading a message that the end is upon us, and find that at the end of your life that God is still the only one who knows?

Are you prepared for Christs return (saved)? If you are, go about your daily business and share the Gospel every chance you get. This end is now stuff makes it difficult to share the Gospel.
Are you going to spend the rest of your time speaking the word ignoring 25% of the bible and ignoring everything going on around you?

At the end of your life you will find that the reason the church is empty where you speak is because people came to get some answers and you refused to even address the questions.

What better way to ask someone if they are prepared for the Lord's return than for them to see that day approaching?

I agree that Bible preachers who focus on 25% of the Bible and ignore 75% will find their ministry dry up even faster than those who focus on 75% and ignore 25%.
 
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kaylagrl

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Dates and milk? .. I'm not claiming that the prophecy is not going to happen but I don't think dates and milk is proof of a prophecy being fulfilled
Isn't there supposed to be a prophecy about a temple being rebuilt?
Also Israel was already a nation.
They are apartheiding the Palestinians but that's another topic

Israel hasn't been a nation for how many years before 1948? Restoring of Israel is in the Bible, yes prophesy. Yes, the temple will be rebuilt. And no, they are not apartheiding Palestinians. That's utterly untrue.
 
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kaylagrl

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Yeah that's the whole point I've been making. The Bible says only God knows when the end is coming so running around preaching this into the world rhetoric just makes Christianity look like a cold that wants the world to end[/QUOTE]

Ever listen to the climate change preachers?! Talk about a dooms day cult!!
 

Dude653

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Israel hasn't been a nation for how many years before 1948? Restoring of Israel is in the Bible, yes prophesy. Yes, the temple will be rebuilt. And no, they are not apartheiding Palestinians. That's utterly untrue.
Yes they are. Imagine I came into your house and said your house and everything in it is mine now. You can still stay here but I get to decide which rooms you can use, ECT