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From what I've learned recently is that copper, zinc, tin, lead and other elements is what goes into brass/bronze. When buying there's an ASTM number that you go by to get the right formulation for the properties of what you need. There's a lot of different formulations out there. All of it is double in price from what it was a year ago.

There is Ebay...but most on there want too much for what they are selling. Brass/Bronze is commodity priced anymore...like gasoline. Just about everyone makes it. Most that do specialize in particular forms or recipes of it. Plus with all the home remodeling the demand for brass/bronze has gone through the roof. It's used extensively in plumbing fixtures, wiring, and decorations. (Nobody uses pure copper...everyone uses "red brass").

And yes, the Swiss have a thing for horology....from clocks to watches they have it down pat. You have to apprentice under a master before you get accepted.
But $40,000-$20,000 for a "dust collector" is good money. About a quarter of that is the cost of the brass used. The cost of cutting and polishing is not reflected.

Ticking clocks aren't exactly popular because of the noise and are expensive as well. There really is not much of a market for the old technology. The art is dying for quartz/digital accuracy. We used to have clocks everywhere...the bank, churches, city centers...clock towers are now of a bygone era. If there happens to be a clock tower chiming in a city center people look at their cell phones and wonder why the chiming is off and early. *sigh* (it's supposed to be)
Owning a grandfather clock was once a sign of wealth.
Today they are abandoned or forced upon adult children as a family heirloom of some sort....(Which never goes over well)
Basic bronze is copper/tin and brass is copper/zinc kitco shows precious and base metal quotes and gives idea of how much you are paying the middle men over market prices which are of course much lower. Sounded like you were doing clock building as 'hobby' like yrs ago my neighbor rebuilt a Ford Mustang which was a 'labor of love'. He was intending to sell it and probably was overall loss at that time around 1988 and Mustang was 1964 and half and he was hoping to get around 10 K as I recall. Jay Leno was just hospitalized for fire accident. He is possibly biggest car collector. Maybe better chance of profitable hobby with cars.
 

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That clock is just $78,000....
Of course it's old....17th century.
 

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so which is it...

absence makes the heart grow fonder or out of sight out of mind? :unsure:
 
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Sense Kari Lake lost the election will she give a concession speech or will she follow the lead of Donald Trump and claim that the election was stolen?
There were many irregularities here in AZ. She ought to get proof first, and then launch a suit. But, she needs hard proof.
 

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so which is it...

absence makes the heart grow fonder or out of sight out of mind? :unsure:
That's absinthe makes the heart grow fonder....a concoction of alcohol and a powerful hallucinogenic narcotic that is very addicting. Currently illegal in most countries that have controlled substances.
 
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The narrator may be sincere but last clock introduced is also doomed. How about natural clock's. i.e. Radioactivity appears to be a natural clock. There are natural clocks associated with living organisms too. i.e. Some plants cycles appear to be fixed and the life cycles of these plants are determined by these 'natural clocks'. There are 'natural clocks' DESIGNED and part of all living creatures. In humans and other vertebrae's the pineal gland may be 'part' of a 'natural clock'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland>>>And along the lines of the video the atomic clock >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clock
 

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I always knew I was different...too many wild career swings to be normal.

And then I seen some rather outlandish threads on this forum....


This answers that question....
 
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From what I've learned recently is that copper, zinc, tin, lead and other elements is what goes into brass/bronze. When buying there's an ASTM number that you go by to get the right formulation for the properties of what you need. There's a lot of different formulations out there. All of it is double in price from what it was a year ago.
Corinthian Bronze article may interest you.>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian_bronze
 
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Also that it doesn't tarnish. But it's black Metal. That's unique too.
Maybe nothing but; Some years ago I took a gold plated 'copper' bracelet and hammered the plating into the bracelet. Maybe I was trying to determine currents in different metals when moving thru magnetic field. Some do this by floating test piece on water in a 'boat'. I hang the magnet and move test piece manually. Not very sophisticated. Most say current is 'eddy' current like transformer core currents. I don't agree. The gold hammered in is interesting effect. I don't use anvil but a piece of hard steel to hammer on.>>LOL