getting out of tribulation....
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repeated because i could not get the scripture posted in time....
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
the 70th weeks is a farce because who is counting the weeks. The pretribbers keep insisting on a 'gap years/weeks' just like some teachers insist on a 'gap theory'. It is because they have gaps in their knowledge.
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Believers will always have tribulation- this is how our faith is tested. Beast empires have risen and fallen over centuries and we still have beast empires today. We live under them right now. world leaders and politicians, popes, monarchs etc are always trying to take over God and say they are God.
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Believers will always have tribulation- this is how our faith is tested. Beast empires have risen and fallen over centuries and we still have beast empires today. We live under them right now. world leaders and politicians, popes, monarchs etc are always trying to take over God and say they are God.
God. Prophetically.
Those who have mastered prophecy ALWAYS recognize the pre-trib rapture as Biblical doctrine so declared. It's baked in the cake.
Not (pre-Rev chapter 6 tribulation) anymore. Woe unto the earth-dwellers though.
Rev 3:10
“Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
Rev 5:8
Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
Rev 5:9
And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
The Tribulation is the time of God's wrath. Not confusing.
Yes, it is. Tribulation like the world has not seen before. It is called the Time of Jacob's Trouble (it is not called "The Time of the Church's Trouble.")
Amen! Now you're cooking with gas.
Yes we are! PTL!
Amen. I think you are starting to understand. Our testing and refining is now. God's wrath upon unbelievers happens during the seven years when the unbelievers will come under their tribulation. We are not destined for that tribulation, because it is God's wrath upon the unbelieving.
Revelation 11:3
“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.”
Amen. We are in complete agreement on this. The time of our testing and refining is now and the Church has undergone persecution since its inception. No need to come under God's wrath in the future.
BTW....Jesus was more or less a dispensationalist.....
Mat 12:32
“Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Mat 13:40
“Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age.
Mat 19:28
So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Luk 19:42
Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes
Correct of course. Daniel's 70th week. Why/how some people ignore/avoid this I cannot fathom.
Rev 5:3
And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
Raptured bro. Before Rev 6 tribulation ever begins.....
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I think there is some truth here. In that the deception is designed to dash peoples' faith in the hour of testing. A kind of, "i thought Jesus was going to rescue us from this time". If you catch my meaning.
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Locoponydirtman
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The tribulation Saints are the ones being persecuted and murdered now; all over the world.
Here you go bro. Educate yourself. Gather your own manna. Because as of now.....your ignorance on the matter is most obvious.
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Please let me show you something.
Those Jews who came to Jesus during the Trib are presented, by their tribes:
Revelation 7:8
“Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.”
Those are the Jews who came out of the Tribulation Period. There is then another group presented:
Revelation 7:9
“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;”
This group is the sum of all who were prepared with their lamps trimmed and burning at the time of the Rapture.
Both groups receive white robes in Heaven and return to earth with Jesus at the time of His Second Coming. This is not new. It has been right there in your Bible for the longest time.