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REQUIREMENT.

use the whole sentence please.

I didn't use it because the word requirement doesn't change the intent.


No. No fact check. Two of the founders are Marxists. To say their ideals don't lean that way is trying to hide what they are about. Please don't try to tell me BLM and CRT don't share ideals with Marxism. CRT is not a new idea.
 
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there are plenty of text out there: Critical Race Theory (Third Edition): An Introduction and Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement These are by actual CRT theorists.


the basics are not difficult to find:

Recognition that race is not biologically real but is socially constructed and socially significant. It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences. According to scholars Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, race is the product of social thought and is not connected to biological reality.
So there are no differences in race. It's just made up by society. No differences at all. Because my mother is a nurse and that is not a true statement. There are medical differences that can affect one race and not the other. One race could be more susceptible than another to a disease.


There are two forms of racism, one popularly envisioned a race based violence, the KKK, overt violence and cross burning. The second invilvles the collective attitudes and super situations of all members of society CRT rejects the popular understandings about racism, such as arguments that confine racism to a few “bad apples.” CRT recognizes that racism is codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy. CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” CRT recognizes that it is the systemic nature of racism that bears primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality.

So to put it all in laymens terms, America is systemically racist and everyone is racist. It's built in to who we are.




The only way do deal with this second form is through open and honest conversations

That is CRT in a nutshell
Open and honest conversations I have no issue with. I just haven't spoken to anyone who believes CRT who can discuss it, or wishes to do it openly and honestly. I'm not American by birth, I don't know if these ideals are rooted to the US or they feel this is an issue around the world. I'm not going to say there isn't racism in the US or anywhere else in the world. And I believe that if a person is truly racist no amount of talking will change their mind or heart. But to start by saying everyone is racist and the country is racist, I don't think I believe that. I'd have to read more and see a lot more proof than what I have seen so far.
 
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More BALONEY from Scarecrow which is in line with all the nonsense being promoted by the Leftists such as this (which is pure BS).
Biden Education Official Says Democracy—And Everything Else—Is White Supremacy
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...d-everything-else-is-white-supremacy-n1648648

So my question to all the blacks who live in America but want Black Racism is this: "Why do you not migrate to South Africa or Zimbabwe where Black Racism prevails?" You would love how those governments treat whites.
Lets read the full quote from Kristina Ishmael....hmmm...that's strange PJmedia didn't include the full quote....or even most of it...i wonder why
 
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So there are no differences in race. It's just made up by society. No differences at all. Because my mother is a nurse and that is not a true statement. There are medical differences that can affect one race and not the other. One race could be more susceptible than another to a disease.
you mean like sickle cell anemia? (except about 25% of all the people with this disorder are white.)





Open and honest conversations I have no issue with. I just haven't spoken to anyone who believes CRT who can discuss it, or wishes to do it openly and honestly.
you realize that you just lied about what i wrote "So to put it all in laymens terms, America is systemically racist and everyone is racist. It's built in to who we are."
 
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you mean like sickle cell anemia? (except about 25% of all the people with this disorder are white.)

Right,various diseases will affect one race more than another.

you realize that you just lied about what i wrote
No not really. What they are saying is that racism is baked into America, it's systemic. You hear that would all the time now.

A systemic drug, disease, or poison reaches and has an effect on the whole of a body or a plant and not just one part of it.

Systemic describes what relates to or affects an entire system. For example, a systemic disease affects the entire body or organism

These ideals are pushed by the MSM folks like Joy Reid. And they have said America is systemically racist. If that is true what CRT is saying is that America as a whole is racist. Not that people can be racists but the country is rigged to be racist, the whole of it is racist, the people, the system. And as I said I simply don't believe that to be true. But I believe liberals believe that. This article is taken from Ben and Jerry's, the ice cream people, yes.

....racism is built right into every level of our society in ways that might surprise you.
Racism of this kind, racism that infects the very structure of our society, is called systemic racism.


....systemic racism is something different. It’s less about violence or burning crosses. than it is about everyday decisions made by people who may not even think of themselves as racist. (CRT)

They go on to list several reasons that they believe America is systemically racist. It would be a good place to point out that Ben and Jerry's back the BDF movement. Only slightly hypocritical. smh

I pulled that article because I thought it was rather funny for an ice cream company be so openly political. But there are dozens of articles from all MSM that say the same thing, America is systemically racist. So if CRT doesn't believe that, they sure haven't done a good job of getting their message out there or correcting errors in the MSM.
 
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yes it does. it changes the whole meaning of what was said and you know it. Shame on you.

No, it does not. You are for or you are against something. There isn't a third choice. With abortion rates so high with black women and black on black crime, the last thing that is needed is a Marxist ideal that is against the nuclear family. Either way BLM was an utter fraud, they took the money and ran. Shame on me? NO, shame on THEM !!! And anyone who bought into their foolishness. smh
 

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Where are the whites in ads any more? What is the proportion of whites to blacks? What about Indians to blacks? Or Chinese?
Imagine getting mad because other people are getting representation.
White people don't always have to get top billing
 

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there are plenty of text out there: Critical Race Theory (Third Edition): An Introduction and Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement These are by actual CRT theorists.


the basics are not difficult to find:

Recognition that race is not biologically real but is socially constructed and socially significant. It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences. According to scholars Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, race is the product of social thought and is not connected to biological reality.

Racism is a normal feature of society and is embedded within systems and institutions of America, like the legal system, and the financial system.

There are two forms of racism, one popularly envisioned a race based violence, the KKK, overt violence and cross burning. The second invilvles the collective attitudes and super situations of all members of society CRT rejects the popular understandings about racism, such as arguments that confine racism to a few “bad apples.” CRT recognizes that racism is codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy. CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” CRT recognizes that it is the systemic nature of racism that bears primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality.

These inequities re held in place by legal statue, they can include racial profiling, inequities in the legal system and unwritten rules in financial systems

The only way do deal with this second form is through open and honest conversations

That is CRT in a nutshell
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I'm not convinced that race is entirely a social construct. The first humans on Earth were most likely black because Homo sapien emerged in Africa
So even though I am genetically compatible with any woman on the planet, there are some genetic differences between ethnicities like Caucasian people have less melanin, Hispanic people tend to be shorter in stature etc
 
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Lets read the full quote from Kristina Ishmael....hmmm...that's strange PJmedia didn't include the full quote....or even most of it...i wonder why

Lets try to add it then...

Ishmael responded to a tweet claiming that the evangelical church is connected to white supremacy and that there would be a reckoning with " Amen".

‘[Democracy is] also built on white supremacy, which I see perpetuated in education circles when BIPOC folx are told they are being too negative by addressing real issues instead of superlatives,” she said

She said, “Learning to be comfortable in my own skin and weight and really ready to reject the ideal white supremacist body? F**k yes.’

“Fat phobia is real. The ‘ideal’ weight, shape and appearance is white supremacy ingrained in our everyday lives. I’m so over it. We deserve more than diets,” she added.


https://www.elrisala.com/2022/11/24...tweets-democracy-is-based-on-white-supremacy/
 

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Lets try to add it then...

Ishmael responded to a tweet claiming that the evangelical church is connected to white supremacy and that there would be a reckoning with " Amen".

‘[Democracy is] also built on white supremacy, which I see perpetuated in education circles when BIPOC folx are told they are being too negative by addressing real issues instead of superlatives,” she said

She said, “Learning to be comfortable in my own skin and weight and really ready to reject the ideal white supremacist body? F**k yes.’

“Fat phobia is real. The ‘ideal’ weight, shape and appearance is white supremacy ingrained in our everyday lives. I’m so over it. We deserve more than diets,” she added.

https://www.elrisala.com/2022/11/24...tweets-democracy-is-based-on-white-supremacy/
Yeah even though I though I tend lean towards liberal on most issues, I think the left has lost their minds with the wokeness
 
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Imagine getting mad because other people are getting representation.
White people don't always have to get top billing

That wasn't his point. His point was that Hollywood and liberals on the whole ignore POC until they need the votes. And POC fall for it every time. I know when a person is kissing up to me. Blacks were represented in some commercials, now they are the majority. Suddenly, out of nowhere Hollywood and the beauty industry are embracing black people, especially large black women as "beautiful" despite the fact that they are clearly not healthy. So they went from the extreme of staving white women to well fed black women in the blink of an eye. Amazing isn't it?! Don't get me wrong, as a person that is THAT age, and am closer to sisters with curves than white flat chested white girls, I have no problem throwing my support behind POC. I just think that it's entirely obvious that too many blacks voted for Trump because he didn't treat them like victims, he got them jobs and a future. Even though MSM and Dems try to paint him and anyone who supported him as KKK members. rofl No, the left knew Trump had a winning message to black people "Why not try and see what happens." And what happened was the lowest unemployment for blacks, other minorities and women. See I don't think black people care about having their faces in every commercial as much as they care about food on the table, bills paid and the opportunity for moving upward. That's the last thing the Dems want. They will do anything to keep them bound and under the gov't thumb. Then they turn around and call us racist. smh
 
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Yeah even though I though I tend lean towards liberal on most issues, I think the left has lost their minds with the wokeness
You can say that again!!
 

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That wasn't his point. His point was that Hollywood and liberals on the whole ignore POC until they need the votes. And POC fall for it every time. I know when a person is kissing up to me. Blacks were represented in some commercials, now they are the majority. Suddenly, out of nowhere Hollywood and the beauty industry are embracing black people, especially large black women as "beautiful" despite the fact that they are clearly not healthy. So they went from the extreme of staving white women to well fed black women in the blink of an eye. Amazing isn't it?! Don't get me wrong, as a person that is THAT age, and am closer to sisters with curves than white flat chested white girls, I have no problem throwing my support behind POC. I just think that it's entirely obvious that too many blacks voted for Trump because he didn't treat them like victims, he got them jobs and a future. Even though MSM and Dems try to paint him and anyone who supported him as KKK members. rofl No, the left knew Trump had a winning message to black people "Why not try and see what happens." And what happened was the lowest unemployment for blacks, other minorities and women. See I don't think black people care about having their faces in every commercial as much as they care about food on the table, bills paid and the opportunity for moving upward. That's the last thing the Dems want. They will do anything to keep them bound and under the gov't thumb. Then they turn around and call us racist. smh
This is the same guy who said the Jews are satanic. So why am I not surprised, just hateful for no reason
 
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This is the same guy who said the Jews are satanic. So why am I not surprised, just hateful for no reason
Well I think you know where I stand when it comes to the Jews. ;)
 

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His claim that you don't see white people in ads anymore is just intellectually dishonest. He either doesn't own a TV or is just trolling. I see white people in commercials all day
True you don't see a lot of native Americans or Asian people in TV commercials but could it be there or just not that many native Americans or Asian people who are interested in acting in TV commercials?
 

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Well I think you know where I stand when it comes to the Jews. ;)
Hasidic Jews worship Yahweh of the old testament.
Just because they don't recognize Christ as a messiah doesn't mean they worship satan. That's just silly
 
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Hasidic Jews worship Yahweh of the old testament.
Just because they don't recognize Christ as a messiah doesn't mean they worship satan. That's just silly

We know the Jews will eventually come to Christ, the Bible tells us that. They are blinded for a time because of disobedience. They are still looking for a Messiah. They will find Him one day, just as the Bible says.