Trying to reconcile Genesis 1:27 with Genesis 2
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Was Satan only present in the garden? I wouldn't think so.... he was cast out of heaven to earth.... not to the garden... again, just my opinion.
God created man, and He saw that the creation was good. That doesn't mean that man would never sin..... Adam did...
Man has free will, and I think that man's basic nature is not "good"....
God created man, and He saw that the creation was good. That doesn't mean that man would never sin..... Adam did...
Man has free will, and I think that man's basic nature is not "good"....
Perhaps that they (Adam and subsequently Eve) were made 'in the garden' simply alludes to being "within the garden (an enclosure; from the root "to grasp; enclose, palace grounds next to an estate) and this is how 'Satan' was "cast out of heaven and fell to the earth (returned to dust and hence knows 'he' has but a short time?)" in the first place. This is my own hypothesis, see " a double minded man is unstable in all his ways..." and "let your eye be single' which speaks to willing the "one thing," I believe.
To me, this clears up all of 'the fallen' controversy, whether spiritual, emotional, or physical.
To me, this clears up all of 'the fallen' controversy, whether spiritual, emotional, or physical.
The way it has always read to me is that both men and women were created in the image of God. Of course men and women are different from each other, but the differences are mostly biological. The male and female aspect of people is just a body function used mostly for reproduction.
Each part of our bodies such as our lungs, hands, brains, reproductive parts, etc just serve a purpose. I try not to get hung up on the reference to reproductive organs. That's just pointing out that when God made people and animals that He made them male and female, (so they could multiply) but humankind in general were made in His image.
You may look at James 3:9 where James demonstrates that the school of thought was that all people, not just men, though sinners, were still considered to be in God's image or likeness:
James 3
9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God’s likeness.
Each part of our bodies such as our lungs, hands, brains, reproductive parts, etc just serve a purpose. I try not to get hung up on the reference to reproductive organs. That's just pointing out that when God made people and animals that He made them male and female, (so they could multiply) but humankind in general were made in His image.
You may look at James 3:9 where James demonstrates that the school of thought was that all people, not just men, though sinners, were still considered to be in God's image or likeness:
James 3
9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God’s likeness.
I'm sure it's no problem attributed to your comprehension. I understand where this might come to you from left field but, I'm currently entertaining the idea that 'angel' is speaking to the spirit of humans, and I haven't been able to dismiss the possibility to date. For example, doesn't the designation of 'the son of the morning" sound like it could be a reference to Adam, who is God's "first creation'? If so, then "the morning stars" may be among the "first' humans. In other words, I have a time believing in actual winged creatures playing harps on the clouds, or with goat horns and hoofs.
Noting that this is Isaiah's vision of the Lord in His Glory
these seraphim call out to one another
"holy, holy, holy is the LORD of Hosts; all the earth is full of His glory" 4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke."
Isaiah is receiving an illustration translating to him God's glory, and the root "saraph" is "to burn," so these are made of fire, as another verse says of God's angels, he makes his angels a fiery flame. How do we know for sure this isn't "explaining in earthly terms" the Spirit(s) of God (such as like the lamb has seven eyes, which are the spirits of God that go into all the earth)?
Just saying, heavenly matter is difficult to grasp, by nature.
these seraphim call out to one another
"holy, holy, holy is the LORD of Hosts; all the earth is full of His glory" 4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke."
Isaiah is receiving an illustration translating to him God's glory, and the root "saraph" is "to burn," so these are made of fire, as another verse says of God's angels, he makes his angels a fiery flame. How do we know for sure this isn't "explaining in earthly terms" the Spirit(s) of God (such as like the lamb has seven eyes, which are the spirits of God that go into all the earth)?
Just saying, heavenly matter is difficult to grasp, by nature.
Was Cain Adam and Eve's firstborn, or merely the firstborn after the pain of labor is introduce and the prophecy of the seed is given? There is a thought that Eve likely thought that Cain was that promised seed going by the Hebrew rendering of the passage, 'she named him Cain because "I have gotten (the?) man, namely, the LORD," rather than "I have gotten a man (by) the LORD"
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