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You won't last long pushing your heresy. I'll say adieu to you now...
You are blinded. 2 Corinthian 4:4. Read the "image of God" if you are an image you are not that person. Again, you are made like that person. My children are an image of me and their Father. You stop your heresy!
 

Magenta

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You are blinded. 2 Corinthian 4:4. Read the "image of God" if you are an image you are not that person. Again, you are made like that person. My children are an image of me and their Father. You stop your heresy!
Denying the Deity of Jesus Christ is the number one heresy of the cults and anti-Christ religions.

• PAUL called Jesus “our great God and Savior” (Titus 2:13)

• JOHN called Jesus “God” in the very first verse of his Gospel when he said that “the Word was God” (John 1:1).

• JESUS took the name of God revealed to Moses in the burning bush at Exodus 3:14 (“I AM”) and applied it to Himself
in John 8:58. In John 5:18, Jesus claimed to be “equal with God.” In John 10:33, He made Himself “out to be God.”


• THOMAS, one of the twelve disciples, called Jesus: “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28). Jesus did not deny it, though you do.

• ISAIAH, the Old Testament prophet, said that the coming Messiah would be God. Isaiah 9:6 says, “For unto us a Child
[a reference to His humanity] is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His
name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God [a reference to His deity], Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”


• GOD the Father called Jesus “God.” Hebrews 1:8 says, “But to the Son He [God the Father] says: ‘Your throne,
O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.’” [Quoting Psalm 45:6-7]


For all your boasting of studying for years into decades, you have missed something very essential.
 
Feb 17, 2022
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Denying the Deity of Jesus Christ is the number one heresy of the cults and anti-Christ religions.

• PAUL called Jesus “our great God and Savior” (Titus 2:13)

• JOHN called Jesus “God” in the very first verse of his Gospel when he said that “the Word was God” (John 1:1).

• JESUS took the name of God revealed to Moses in the burning bush at Exodus 3:14 (“I AM”) and applied it to Himself
in John 8:58. In John 5:18, Jesus claimed to be “equal with God.” In John 10:33, He made Himself “out to be God.”


• THOMAS, one of the twelve disciples, called Jesus: “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28). Jesus did not deny it, though you do.

• ISAIAH, the Old Testament prophet, said that the coming Messiah would be God. Isaiah 9:6 says, “For unto us a Child
[a reference to His humanity] is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His
name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God [a reference to His deity], Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”


• GOD the Father called Jesus “God.” Hebrews 1:8 says, “But to the Son He [God the Father] says: ‘Your throne,
O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.’” [Quoting Psalm 45:6-7]


For all your boasting of studying for years into decades, you have missed something very essential.
You waist my time hopefully someone else is getting it, because you want ever!

Your blinded, Titus 2:13 "great God (1) "and" Savior Jesus Christ (2).... (2 people)
John 1:1 "the word was WITH God" (2 people) If your WITH your friend are you another person?
Exodus 3:14 that is God (YHWH) (1 person) not Jesus
John 8:58 truth Jesus/Yeshua was the 1st of God's creation, only begotten, 1st personage he made
John 5:18 "said that God was His Father" can't you read, he said God (YHWH) is his FATHER!
John 10:33 the scriptures calls Jesus and the Angels gods (Ps 82:1), already covered this one, not again!
Isaiah 9:6 Yes, he has been given all those titles, but he is not God Almighty he is called Might God. Where's the AL????? Genesis 17:1 Almighty God, (Psalms 83:18) in your KJV, the older version it has God's name and in the Preface it explains that it took out the YHWH.
 

Magenta

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John 1:1 "the word was WITH God" (2 people) If your WITH your friend are you another person?

John 1:1
:) The John 1:1 text plainly says, The Word was God. You must be blind :oops::cry::censored:
 

Magenta

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For those unsure but interested in the truth of the matter pertaining to
Who Jesus is, there is an excellent thread on the matter
here (<= link :))
 
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First of all Jesus was not a "preincarnate". Yeshua/Jesus was an angel in Heaven before YHWH transferred him into the womb of Mary. In Exodus that is strictly YHWY talking who is THE Almighty God. There are so many scriptures to support it Proverbs 8:30, Colossians 1:15-16, John 17:5. "The firstborn of all creation, meaning he was made before anything else. You really have no idea what you are saying because you have not read any of the ancient text or the Bible.

Wow!!

First of all, there's not a single Bible in existence including the Demonic occult of Jehovah Witnesses that even has what you wrote in it.

That is what has to be taught.

So, YOU, are willing to live by a Creed of what's been taught but cannot be found in the Holy Word of God?

You are committing Apostasy. Hope YOU understand what you are doing...
 

oyster67

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The Earth will never be gone
Revelation 21:1
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
 

oyster67

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First of all Jesus was not a "preincarnate". Yeshua/Jesus was an angel in Heaven before YHWH transferred him into the womb of Mary.
The deity and divinity of Christ is one of the core fundamental tenets of Christianity. If you keep teaching this heresy, you're going to get booted.

John 1:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
 

Inquisitor

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Yep all Of creation sings and shouts of his majesty from start to star and sea to sea and man to man

It’s just that we are finding out his creation is a lot bigger than we thought and understood . infinite is our God who holds eternity in his palm
The universe is so immense that we cannot comprehend the scale.

This inconceivable immensity appears to be on the micro scale, as well as the macro scale.

The biggest star (sun) size-wise is VY Canis Majoris observed so far. Is about 2,000 times wider than our sun.
You can fit 9.3 billion of our suns into VY Canis Majoris.
You can fit a million earths into our sun.
You do the mathematics, how many earths would fit into the largest sun (Canis Majoris)?
 

Magenta

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The universe is so immense that we cannot comprehend the scale.

This inconceivable immensity appears to be on the micro scale, as well as the macro scale.

The biggest star (sun) size-wise is VY Canis Majoris observed so far. Is about 2,000 times wider than our sun.
You can fit 9.3 billion of our suns into VY Canis Majoris.
You can fit a million earths into our sun.
You do the mathematics, how many earths would fit into the largest sun (Canis Majoris)?
9.3 billion times a million? :unsure: Would that be 9.3 quadrillion? Perhaps @Cameron143 could check my math :giggle:
 

Cameron143

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35.765 X 10,000,000 Megabiggalots.
That's 3.5765 x 10 to the 8th power. Note...there are 5 significant digits.

The foregoing information was brought to you courtesy of Magenta...aka Miss Math.