The Royal Law Confuse with the Animal Sacrificial Law.
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If you are choosing (working) to not kill your wife you are cursed.
I'm saying If your working at the law without faith in Jesus then you are cursed.
I do believe Jesus fulfilled the law and by faith gives me His righteousness. But just because Jesus didn't kill does not give me licence to kill.
If i choose to not kill does not mean I'm under the curse of the law.
If you are choosing (working) to not kill your wife you are cursed.
I'm saying If your working at the law without faith in Jesus then you are cursed.
I do believe Jesus fulfilled the law and by faith gives me His righteousness. But just because Jesus didn't kill does not give me licence to kill.
If i choose to not kill does not mean I'm under the curse of the law.
Because i keep the law (by faith), does not mean i don't believe in righteousness by faith.
I believe my righteousness is 100% from Jesus and what Jesus did for me.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
I don't divide the different laws so i can keep some and not others.. because some are my faviourite. No
My flesh like Paul wants to break all of Gods commandments, if i lived selfishly and did what i wanted i wouldn't obey most law. The flesh hates the laws because they point out sin.
Keeping the law is motivated by love and faith.
And note the pharisees were not keeping the laws..
They were hypocrites...
= a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right, they put on a false appearance.
Im not going to say I'm a child of Jesus and walk around stealing, killing, lieing, and taking God name in vain.
I believe my righteousness is 100% from Jesus and what Jesus did for me.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
I don't divide the different laws so i can keep some and not others.. because some are my faviourite. No
My flesh like Paul wants to break all of Gods commandments, if i lived selfishly and did what i wanted i wouldn't obey most law. The flesh hates the laws because they point out sin.
Keeping the law is motivated by love and faith.
And note the pharisees were not keeping the laws..
They were hypocrites...
= a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right, they put on a false appearance.
Im not going to say I'm a child of Jesus and walk around stealing, killing, lieing, and taking God name in vain.
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You are in rebellion against God.
God told the Jews He would annul the covenant He had made with them because they broke it, He would make a new covenant.
Jesus has initiated God's new covenant in His own blood.
You in your foolishness and stubborness of heart have decided to go back to the old covenant God made with the Jews which they broke. The Gentiles were not included in that covenant ever unless they joined themselves to the Jews.
We are children of the New covenant in Christ's blood.
You want to be afraid? read Hebrews, it talks about folks who hear the gospel but go back rather to the law.
God told the Jews He would annul the covenant He had made with them because they broke it, He would make a new covenant.
Jesus has initiated God's new covenant in His own blood.
You in your foolishness and stubborness of heart have decided to go back to the old covenant God made with the Jews which they broke. The Gentiles were not included in that covenant ever unless they joined themselves to the Jews.
We are children of the New covenant in Christ's blood.
You want to be afraid? read Hebrews, it talks about folks who hear the gospel but go back rather to the law.
You don't understand what One Jot or One Tittle is??
That means that not even the SLIGHTEST change to the Law will happen until ALL is fulfilled.
IT DOESN'T mean that the whole law can change but not be fulfilled because it was only changed and not removed.
And yet, you STILL have jots and tittles PASSING from the Law but insist that heaven and earth hasn't passed away... You can't understand or you don't want to understand?? Not sure which it is. Maybe both.
Please show how the Law can change but no jots or tittles pass from the law. Not possible.
That means that not even the SLIGHTEST change to the Law will happen until ALL is fulfilled.
IT DOESN'T mean that the whole law can change but not be fulfilled because it was only changed and not removed.
And yet, you STILL have jots and tittles PASSING from the Law but insist that heaven and earth hasn't passed away... You can't understand or you don't want to understand?? Not sure which it is. Maybe both.
Please show how the Law can change but no jots or tittles pass from the law. Not possible.
That is incorrect.
Matthew 5 says that anger is breaking the commandments.
There is no way to keep yourself from anger at all times.
The harder you try the more frustrated and upset you will get.
Working at the law is a circular curse. It CAUSES more sin to arise.
Romans 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Your only hope at being delivered from this curse is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 7:5-6
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Romans 8:1 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Giving yourself excuses (mental assent) doesn't free yourself from the curse.
Matthew 5 says that anger is breaking the commandments.
There is no way to keep yourself from anger at all times.
The harder you try the more frustrated and upset you will get.
Working at the law is a circular curse. It CAUSES more sin to arise.
Romans 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Your only hope at being delivered from this curse is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 7:5-6
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Romans 8:1 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Giving yourself excuses (mental assent) doesn't free yourself from the curse.
That's EXACTLY what the Pharisees thought, too.
You DON'T keep the law. You never kept it.
Only God can keep the Law. That was His Point in giving it. So you would realize you AREN'T even CLOSE to being Righteous and you need Him all the time.
Working at the Law is rejecting Gods Grace and falling short of what is required.
2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
You DON'T keep the law. You never kept it.
Only God can keep the Law. That was His Point in giving it. So you would realize you AREN'T even CLOSE to being Righteous and you need Him all the time.
Working at the Law is rejecting Gods Grace and falling short of what is required.
2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
But in 2 John 6: 5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. You mean to tell me this commandment was heard from the beginning, but what about the other nation or people of the earth who are not Jews or Israelites. In the scriptures it's written in Isaiah : 56 1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed. 2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil. 3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree. 4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Looks like the Gentiles are includes as well.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Looks like the Gentiles are includes as well.
You absolutely right, there are many. It's written in Jude 1: 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus warned us that the road to salvation is straight and narrow and that only a few of us will find it. Many are traveling down the wrong road, which leads to destruction. This is because many of us have heard about salvation but few of us want to do what is necessary to get salvation (many are called but few are chosen). (Matthew 7:13, 14) Many contend that Jesus did it all and now all we have to do is have faith. The bible says, we must not only be a hearer of the word, but a doer of the word also (James 1:21-22). DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! If we really have faith in Jesus our actions will prove it. If Jesus is our Lord then we will obey him. Even a child will obey a parent, by getting good grades in school, for the reward of a new bicycle. The child cannot earn money for the bicycle, but instead must act upon their faith to receive the free gift. We must do the same to receive eternal life. "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD” (James 2:20).
Let's go back into Romans 8th Chapter, but first God had Peter to clearly warn us about some of Paul’s writing. (2Peter:3:15-16) (v.15) And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; (v.16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Now let us take heed to this warning, we can’t ignore all the bible and just concentrate on a hand full of verses out of the writings of Paul. Because some of Paul’s writing is hard to be understood.
Now because you haven't been taught, you just posting all the verses that talks about do away with a law. not knowing what Paul is talking about.
There's two different laws Paul talks about in this chapter. Let's take a look at Roman 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. This is true, because Jesus says in John 4: 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Jesus also say in John 6: 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. So walking in the spirit is the word of God.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Now, what law is this Paul talking about. This law is animal sacrificial law, not the royal law (Ten Commandments, statutes and Judgement). Paul explained this law in; (Heb.10:1, 9-10,18,26-27) (v.1) For the law (what law, the law of animal sacrifice?) having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (v.9) Then said he, (Jesus) Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first that he may establish the second. (v.10) By which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments. (v.18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. In other words, no more animals are going to die for your sins. (v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.
Now do we understand what’s being said here? If you sin willfully after you have knowledge of what the truth is, no more animals are going to die for you. (v.27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Now if you are being deceived into believing that once you are under God’s grace you no longer have to keep his commandments, all you have to look forward to is the day of judgement and the lake of fire (fiery indignation).
Now, Let's get back to Romans 8: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
So what is the righteousness of the law? Let allow Paul to tell us in Paul said in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET. Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law. (v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
The Sabbath day on the seventh day of the week, it is consider walking in the spirit because its part of the law (commandments), to be carnally minded is walk contrary to the law of righteousness.
Now because you haven't been taught, you just posting all the verses that talks about do away with a law. not knowing what Paul is talking about.
There's two different laws Paul talks about in this chapter. Let's take a look at Roman 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. This is true, because Jesus says in John 4: 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Jesus also say in John 6: 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. So walking in the spirit is the word of God.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Now, what law is this Paul talking about. This law is animal sacrificial law, not the royal law (Ten Commandments, statutes and Judgement). Paul explained this law in; (Heb.10:1, 9-10,18,26-27) (v.1) For the law (what law, the law of animal sacrifice?) having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (v.9) Then said he, (Jesus) Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first that he may establish the second. (v.10) By which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments. (v.18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. In other words, no more animals are going to die for your sins. (v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.
Now do we understand what’s being said here? If you sin willfully after you have knowledge of what the truth is, no more animals are going to die for you. (v.27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Now if you are being deceived into believing that once you are under God’s grace you no longer have to keep his commandments, all you have to look forward to is the day of judgement and the lake of fire (fiery indignation).
Now, Let's get back to Romans 8: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
So what is the righteousness of the law? Let allow Paul to tell us in Paul said in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET. Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law. (v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
The Sabbath day on the seventh day of the week, it is consider walking in the spirit because its part of the law (commandments), to be carnally minded is walk contrary to the law of righteousness.
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In 1 Timothy 1: 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; Yeah ...so Paul is saying a whole lot here people. How can a person be disobedient in God's eyes. How can a person be unholy or a sinner, because sin is transgression of the law. Lets read it in (1John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts.
we keep Christ's commandments which is as you have quoted to love. Love does no wrong. You can't legislate love.
If you need laws to tell you not to kill, not to lie or steal or commit adultery you are in trouble. And you can't pick out just one law and decide to keep it.
If you won't be told you won't be told. If you won't listen to God you won't listen to anybody else.
If you need laws to tell you not to kill, not to lie or steal or commit adultery you are in trouble. And you can't pick out just one law and decide to keep it.
If you won't be told you won't be told. If you won't listen to God you won't listen to anybody else.
The Bible contains the truth, and the truth is the Word of God, which is the real life of man. "I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." (St. John 17:6, 8, &17) And Jesus answered him saying, "It is written, that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God." (St. Luke4: 4) "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." (St. John 6:63)
I am the LORD your God. Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another. And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning. Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumbling block before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD. Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. Ye shall not round the corners of your heads; neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness. Ye shall keep my Sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD.” (Leviticus 19:1-4, 9-18, & 26-32)
2 John 1: 5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
I am the LORD your God. Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another. And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning. Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumbling block before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD. Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. Ye shall not round the corners of your heads; neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness. Ye shall keep my Sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD.” (Leviticus 19:1-4, 9-18, & 26-32)
2 John 1: 5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
The SCRIPTURE tells you what law it is talking about.
Now pay close attention.
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones...
EXTREMELY obvious this is the 10 commandments. Your "sacrificial" law wasn't engraved on stones, only the 10 commandments were.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
The ministration of death, the 10 commandments, the law of death. Pretty easy to follow along here.
Romans 7:10-11
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Law of sin and death = 10 commandments
Pretty easy to see the law of sin and death is the 10 commandments. Just by LETTING scripture define scripture.
Once you see that we are made FREE from the Law of sin and death by the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus, it is VERY EASY to spot ALL of your errors and imaginations.
Now pay close attention.
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones...
EXTREMELY obvious this is the 10 commandments. Your "sacrificial" law wasn't engraved on stones, only the 10 commandments were.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
The ministration of death, the 10 commandments, the law of death. Pretty easy to follow along here.
Romans 7:10-11
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Law of sin and death = 10 commandments
Pretty easy to see the law of sin and death is the 10 commandments. Just by LETTING scripture define scripture.
Once you see that we are made FREE from the Law of sin and death by the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus, it is VERY EASY to spot ALL of your errors and imaginations.
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