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Lanolin

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Prince Harrys book/memoir has now been released and making the rounds. (And the news)

Would Christians like to comment if they have read it?

I havent read it but I think to be fair he can tell his own story if he wants. Just like Diana did with her life. Being royal or marrying into the royal family isnt a piece of cake. Being the second born is also inherently second best according to the heirachy of things although in Gods kingdom, as opposed to the kingdoms of this world, if you are a believer you are a co-heir with Christ.
 

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My wife ordered a copy from Amazon, and it arrived on Friday. She is reading it at this moment. Not a topic of interest for me, however.
 

ZNP

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Prince Harrys book/memoir has now been released and making the rounds. (And the news)

Would Christians like to comment if they have read it?

I havent read it but I think to be fair he can tell his own story if he wants. Just like Diana did with her life. Being royal or marrying into the royal family isnt a piece of cake. Being the second born is also inherently second best according to the heirachy of things although in Gods kingdom, as opposed to the kingdoms of this world, if you are a believer you are a co-heir with Christ.
You may think it is OK for him to share his story, and no doubt Christians think this because as Jesus said "I have done nothing in secret". But the royal family is part of a secret order and the rules are very strict about not speaking the things that are secret. King Charles is a 33 degree Mason, you don't get to that level without doing some very despicable things. Some claim that Diana was a sacrifice to that God. I have no evidence one way or the other, but what I do know is that human sacrifice and killing people is part of the requirements to get to a 33rd Mason.

Yes, Harry is telling us his story but if he is going up against the Masons they will do everything to destroy him, destroy his credibility.
 

Nehemiah6

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Prince Harrys book/memoir has now been released and making the rounds. (And the news) Would Christians like to comment if they have read it?
If this immature kid had had any sense he would not have published any "memoir" to embarrass himself and his family. No I would not waste time and money on nonsense. And what is "Spare" supposed to mean? Should that not be "Spear"?
 

JesusLives

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I am up to page 86 in the book right now and my hardback copy is 410 pages.

I am enjoying the book actually and I feel for Harry as he is talking about his childhood and when he was told his mother died and the tabloids making stories some true others not so much.

None of us regular people would know anything about being hounded by the press so I can say up to page 86 I like the book and will let you know what I think when I have finished it.
 

Nehemiah6

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If this immature kid had had any sense he would not have published any "memoir" to embarrass himself and his family.
Harry Demands Royals Accept He Is Not ‘Delusional’ and Apologise to Meghan
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...he-is-not-delusional-and-apologise-to-meghan/

Is Harry delusional? It would seem so. And why is he still being called "the Duke of Sussex" rather than plain old "Harry the Whiner"?
Despite seeming to claim that he is “not delusional”, the Duke of Sussex went on to claim that his ghostwritten memoir and the ‘Megflix’ docu-series in which the woke couple aired dirty laundry in public were not about trying to attack the monarchy, but rather an attempt to “save” the institution.
 

Nehemiah6

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Harry and Meghan and the Scapegoat Mamas Fun Club
The planet's premier victimism shills, Harry and Meghan, shall be our teaching examples. They actualize the psychospiritual maladies of disloyalty, dishonor, and ingratitude, which are the bases of victimism adaptation. Instrumental victimism arises when someone who has never known material deprivation or suffered personal or political persecution, has never worked to survive or sacrificed his own comfort, concocts a narrative of victimhood and propagates self-serving complaints and allegations. Victimists take no responsibility for their own errors while blame-throwing fireballs on scapegoats.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._meghan_and_the_scapegoat_mamas_fun_club.html
 

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I haven't read it and wouldn't mind reading it. I think some people are being overly harsh towards Harry/Meghan, about Harry turning his back on the royal family, being under Meghan's spell, etc. If what is rumored is true that is father (whom he lived with on a daily basis for a long time period) never fully accepted him, that can cause mental issues. The royal family also never fully accepted Meghan, or the babies, due to racism. Imagine if your family doesn't accept your spouse? You would cut off ties. Meghan is also looked down upon for her dysfunctional family, which is not her fault.
 

Lanolin

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My sister now has a copy, I think she has started reading it.
She lives in London, though the only time she actually saw the royals in person was at the funeral.

I think they are just humans like the rest of us, only they are (off the scale) priveliged. Some people like to believe the royals are all lizard people tho lol.

Will Camilla ever write her story? I doubt it. She doesnt strike me as the type to have anything to say for herself, other than what Charles wants her to say. It wouldnt have been the easiest thing to accept your dads remarriage to a woman that was the cause of your mothers divorce trauma! I would have an issue with that for sure!

The Queen though had a christmas message every year, I did seem to me she writes her own speeches because the book on them that was a collection of them all seemed to come from a personal point of view, tho her advisors probably vetted them. I found them very thought provoking and a slice of British history going back what, 60 years?

Harry never struck me as all that concerned with history tho, just his own personal circumstances and the causes that Diana held dear. I wonder if he studied history in school, if he had maybe he would have been a bit more aware of all the stuff thats been going down (nazi gaffe and all)
 

Lanolin

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what is proof that Charles is 33 secret freemason, have you seen him do the secret handshake/signal thing?
Do all royals belong or only the ones in power?

How do you know about this anyway, were your family ever involved with freemasonry? I only know they make oaths and curses. I have been inside a freemasons lodge but that was only when they had a book sale. There was nothing much to see except a bunch of photos of men wearing their aprons.

I do know the freemasons sponsor my cities writers festival. Im a bit freaked out by that. Maybe they are all in the tabloids too. Who can really tell the difference in the press what is true and what is fake anyway. In NZ if its in a womans weekly magazine from Australia under Rupert Murdoch its probably made up.

We dont really have tabloids like the UK do. Just regional newspapers, which are mostly advertising. If you want actual impartial or investigative journalism, I dont think there is any such thing when it comes to the royals! . They are also loved and hated in equal measure.
 

ZNP

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what is proof that Charles is 33 secret freemason, have you seen him do the secret handshake/signal thing?
Do all royals belong or only the ones in power?

How do you know about this anyway, were your family ever involved with freemasonry? I only know they make oaths and curses. I have been inside a freemasons lodge but that was only when they had a book sale. There was nothing much to see except a bunch of photos of men wearing their aprons.

I do know the freemasons sponsor my cities writers festival. Im a bit freaked out by that. Maybe they are all in the tabloids too. Who can really tell the difference in the press what is true and what is fake anyway. In NZ if its in a womans weekly magazine from Australia under Rupert Murdoch its probably made up.

We dont really have tabloids like the UK do. Just regional newspapers, which are mostly advertising. If you want actual impartial or investigative journalism, I dont think there is any such thing when it comes to the royals! . They are also loved and hated in equal measure.
I have seen photographs of Prince Charles, his father, and other members of the Royal family who are wearing the outfit of the FreeMasons together with other Freemasons.

My understanding is that European royalty is almost 100% freemason.

I am no expert on this stuff, but I do know that among the rich and powerful being a freemason is very common. Biden is, Trump is, Bush is, Obama is. I did watch a 5 hour video on Youtube, a testimony of a guy who used to be a very high up Mason and I have heard other testimonies as well.

Many Catholic priests are, Jesuits are, the Pope is, etc.
 

MsMediator

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If Harry sides with the royal family, there is no marriage left.
 

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Another reason the royal family doesn't like Meghan is because she is American. I think Meghan is too classy to be rude, as alleged by the royal family. Meghan may be too direct and expressive for British polite/royal society. The British communication style is more indirect and vague. Plus, she is half black, from working or middle class, divorcee, with a dysfunctional family.

Something I believe is that a person's feelings are valid, whether you disagree with them or not. It is not for someone else to say if a person's feelings are invalid. Harry always felt like a spare. Meghan didn't feel full acceptance from the royal family. They can all probably benefit from group therapy. What probably happened is Harry confided in Meghan about personal family issues, and she encouraged him to talk about it. Plus, she also decided to divulge her own experiences/thoughts, which makes everything more sensational.
 

Lanolin

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The whole Wallis Simpson royal abidication crisis on repeat.

Im not sure what happened to them, he gave up the throne they got married, and the they lived in exile for the rest of their lives...in France?

The whole 'everyone hates Meg cos shes american' thing is a bit old but then people werent hating on Dodi when Diana went out with him cos he was a foreigner. Maybe cos he was rich? Before that she went with Hasnat Khan, a heart surgeon whos family was from Pakistan. I dont think anyone hated him either, they just wanted Di to be happy post divorce with whoever she chose. She could have chosen a dustman from the east end. Her older sister famously said I dont care if hes the next King of England or a dustman if I dont love him I wont marry him. Shes the one who dropped Prince Charles.

Then ironically Diana married Charles.

anyway it shouldnt have mattered who Harry married (or maybe just stayed single) as after all, hes the spare! It did matter who William married being the firstborn and heir presumptive.

I remember reading Dianas true story. The first sentence was 'I should have been a boy' . She was the third daughter and so even more superfluous to requirements. When her brother Charles was born, that aristocratic family finally had an heir.

Royal lineages give everyone headaches.
 

Lanolin

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I have seen photographs of Prince Charles, his father, and other members of the Royal family who are wearing the outfit of the FreeMasons together with other Freemasons.

My understanding is that European royalty is almost 100% freemason.

I am no expert on this stuff, but I do know that among the rich and powerful being a freemason is very common. Biden is, Trump is, Bush is, Obama is. I did watch a 5 hour video on Youtube, a testimony of a guy who used to be a very high up Mason and I have heard other testimonies as well.

Many Catholic priests are, Jesuits are, the Pope is, etc.
what is the freemason outfit, am curious to know.

I dont have time to watch a 5 hour you tube video, but I did watch 6 episodes of the Harry and Meghan show on netflix. However, if Charles is a freemason , doesnt mean that Harry had pledged to be one too.

so telling your story when you have actually left the royal family and gone indie shouldnt be a problem, its not like Diana who spilled the beans BEFORE separating and divorcing. And its Harry, he can do what he likes if he wants to leave he can. Men CAN leave their families you know. Even if they are royal. It isnt like Harry is crowned. They made a decision to give it all up and NOT be funded by the taxpayer.

Pu Yi gave up being emperor of China and became an ordinary gardener.
 

Lanolin

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I read that in the olden days, arisocratic brits who had second sons would send them away to another country..actually pay them to leave because everything would go to the first son, all the estate and lands and titles etc.

They were called remittance men and often these men led lonely lives as werent fit to do much or even work for a living and nobody wanted to marry them.

They were treated as spares just as girls are treated as leftovers or extra mouths to be fed to marry off as soon as as possible. Not sure what kind of work a second son was expected to do but they never were entitled to the family business either. They didnt get the blessing.

Its the whole Jacob and Esau thing again. Funny because Esau was actually first and hairy and red.....I think if you arent the heir you just got to make your own way in life and dont expect anything from your parents or family. They wont train you or teach you the family business, You are on your own. This is what millions of orphans face the world over. No inheritance.
 

JesusLives

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Another reason the royal family doesn't like Meghan is because she is American. I think Meghan is too classy to be rude, as alleged by the royal family. Meghan may be too direct and expressive for British polite/royal society. The British communication style is more indirect and vague. Plus, she is half black, from working or middle class, divorcee, with a dysfunctional family.

Something I believe is that a person's feelings are valid, whether you disagree with them or not. It is not for someone else to say if a person's feelings are invalid. Harry always felt like a spare. Meghan didn't feel full acceptance from the royal family. They can all probably benefit from group therapy. What probably happened is Harry confided in Meghan about personal family issues, and she encouraged him to talk about it. Plus, she also decided to divulge her own experiences/thoughts, which makes everything more sensational.

I like to hug people that are considered family and when you have two different cultures because American and Britain cultures are different I am sure if I hugged the Queen or any of the family members I would be considered rude, uneducated or something not good. But to me I would just be trying to love on my new family members, however, the press would have a field day with me just trying to express my love when maybe that isn't acceptable in the royal family. I think that probably was the main problem the interaction with two different cultures on what is acceptable and what is not.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I haven't read it and wouldn't mind reading it. I think some people are being overly harsh towards Harry/Meghan, about Harry turning his back on the royal family, being under Meghan's spell, etc. If what is rumored is true that is father (whom he lived with on a daily basis for a long time period) never fully accepted him, that can cause mental issues. The royal family also never fully accepted Meghan, or the babies, due to racism. Imagine if your family doesn't accept your spouse? You would cut off ties. Meghan is also looked down upon for her dysfunctional family, which is not her fault.
Meghan is the racist. With a capital R. It isn't just about the royals. She insulted my whole country continuosly.
She hates us and made no attempt to hide her contempt.
No one in this country knew she was "black" until she started banging on about it. Who could tell by looking at her?

She was given a fairy-tale wedding most women can only dream of, all paid for, but it wasn't good enough.
She was given a house. All she did was complain, drive long-serving members off staff out of their jobs with her rude,
obnoxious behaviour. She is a manipulative, narcissist liar.

Some people like being victims of racism because they can make a living out of that industry.
They want to be victims of "racism" but must manufacture because it doesn't exist to the extent they NEED it to.

Some people have real problems. Migraine Markle is a con-artist.
The Royal family accepted that ghastly woman graciously. A future king walks you down the isle at your wedding and you
have the bare-faced front to call him a "racist"? Not rational. It was she who didn't accept them. She had no intention of
being part of that family.
 

ZNP

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what is the freemason outfit, am curious to know.

I dont have time to watch a 5 hour you tube video, but I did watch 6 episodes of the Harry and Meghan show on netflix. However, if Charles is a freemason , doesnt mean that Harry had pledged to be one too.

so telling your story when you have actually left the royal family and gone indie shouldnt be a problem, its not like Diana who spilled the beans BEFORE separating and divorcing. And its Harry, he can do what he likes if he wants to leave he can. Men CAN leave their families you know. Even if they are royal. It isnt like Harry is crowned. They made a decision to give it all up and NOT be funded by the taxpayer.

Pu Yi gave up being emperor of China and became an ordinary gardener.
This site has a picture of Prince Phillip
 

Lanolin

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This site has a picture of Prince Phillip
er, what site

and why is this relevant. the thread is about Harry, not Prince Phillip, who is now dead. Besides, Prince Phillip wasnt photogenic, and nobody bothered him taking photos all the time. It wasnt Prince Phillip that people wanted to see. The Queen always upstaged him anyway, wearing her colourful outfits lol