The Heresy of Perfectionism

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Jesus says My sheep hear my voice and another they will not follow. Thats me. A sheep.
I believe ths is true

We will attain perfection one day. I know it. But I don't think its gonna be this side of Paradise.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion

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God Bless you grandpa
 
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I love you.

I will leave it at that.

Simply, I love you too much to argue.

You already know that unrepentant sins are unforgiven sins.

May the Lord bless you and keep you spotless in your waiting for his glorious returning

-Jeremy
 
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What if someone listens to you and finds out that they aren't perfect anymore and is not as stubborn as I am?
I hope it will bring them to repentance, and a better understanding of what Jesus really accomplished with His death and resurrection
What if they think they have lost their salvation?
I would hope they would seek Godly counsel, and get the truth

What would God say to you if you were in front of Him and you were accused of convincing someone that they had lost their salvation?
Umm I have never accused anyone of loosing their salvation??????? Although I do hope that if I see a brother in sin, I would be able to restor him in a spirit of meekness
Just things to think about. We have influence and power sometimes even when we don't know it. Wouldn't it be better to give people confidence in the Lord and how much He loves us and How Faithful He is? I think so.
The Word tells us in 1st John that we have confidence in ouyr salvation when we are like Christ.

1st John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

This may not be what you do or even want to believe, but it is God's truth nonetheless
 
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You already know that unrepentant sins are unforgiven sins.
The sad thing is, they do not know this. They think all their sins, past, present, and future are already forgiven.

May the Lord bless you and keep you spotless in your waiting for his glorious returning
I stand in agreement with you brother, in Jesus name Amen
 

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You have already been proven wrong with scripture, you just dont seem to care
nothing of the sort is true.
your crooked interpretation has nothing to do with God's truth.
 
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nothing of the sort is true.
your crooked interpretation has nothing to do with God's truth.
I can post scripture without giving any interpretation at all, and the evil in you still rages against it
 
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AnandaHya

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Luke 4:41
And demons also came out of many, crying out and saying, “You are the Christ, the Son of God!” And He, rebuking them, did not allow them to speak, for they knew that He was the Christ.


question: do demons always lie? or do they sin through disobedience and speaking things out time and place against the will of God?
 
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Luke 4:41
And demons also came out of many, crying out and saying, “You are the Christ, the Son of God!” And He, rebuking them, did not allow them to speak, for they knew that He was the Christ.


question: do demons always lie? or do they sin through disobedience and speaking things out time and place against the will of God?
Good point, AnandaHya, if Satan only lied then he wouldnt be a very effective deceiver would he.

Everything Zone says is not a lie, but her attacks on believers are untrue, and God's word still stands.

Thank you for that point of clarification
 
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AnandaHya

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zone attacks ideas not people, some people just think they are their ideas and so feel attacked when those ideas are disputed.

its very hard to discuss anything with a person who has no respect for you and very hard to love anyone if there is no respect.

If nothing else I respect the time and effort God has taken with every single person I meet because GOD hand a hand in their creation. He gives them the air they breathe, He watches and raises them according to His will. if they stray He disciplines them. As long as a person is still breathing then there is hope they will come to confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and turn in true repentance of their sin and disobedience. If God is merciful, then how can we be any less? If you think God loves you and lead you to were you are why do you deny His ability to do the same for others?

"This letter-preaching deals with the surface and shadow of things, and not the things themselves. It does not penetrate the inner part. It has no deep insight into, no strong grasp of, the hidden life of God’s Word. It is true to the outside, but the outside is the hull which must be broken and penetrated for the kernel. The letter may be dressed so as to attract and be fashionable, but the attraction is not toward God nor is the fashion for heaven. The failure is in the preacher. God has not made him. He has never been in the hands of God like clay in the hands of the potter. He has been busy about the sermon, its thought and finish, its drawing and impressive forces; but the deep things of God have never been sought, studied, fathomed, experienced by him." - EM Bounds
 
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NoahsMom

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You already know that unrepentant sins are unforgiven sins.
Key word " un-repentant"- I agree.
 

zone

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I can post scripture without giving any interpretation at all, and the evil in you still rages against it
scripture speaks for itself.
satan knows scripture.
what's that got to do with The Lord?

you mishandle it, that's your problem.
you're not a prophet, nor a sound teacher.
you are an heretic and a divider.

i'm resisting your corrupt teachings, dear.
you know that.
and i always will.
 
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unclefester

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Consumed you and abiding are exactly the same. you jump on anyone that opposes your cult leader Zone, and mask it with piety. Neither of you are any better than her. You all are out to devour God's true flock.

You speak much about love and grace, but you show none.
You are making a fool out of yourself. And leave my cult leader outta this
 
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AnandaHya

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you have certainly shown your bias, and blindness

I can find hundreds more if you would like
alright let me reword that,

Zone should attack ideas not people. sorry I have no control over other people.

but just because you can pull out what you see is wrong in her behavior, does that justify using the same tactics when responding?

you are so busy finding fault in others you never stop and actually listen to what is being said.
 
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you're not a prophet, nor a sound teacher.
you are an heretic and a divider.
haha ths is right on time. AnandaHya, she doesnt attack people who say lol

i'm resisting your corrupt teachings, dear.
you know that.
and i always will.
You resist the Lord Himself, not me. I am nothing more than a vessel He uses
 

zone

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haha ths is right on time. AnandaHya, she doesnt attack people who say lol

You resist the Lord Himself, not me. I am nothing more than a vessle, He uses
i got no problem attacking you.
you're a liar and a heretic.
if i get banned and you stay, that's fine.
I KNOW WHO I HAVE BELIEVED.
k?:D
 
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alright let me reword that,

Zone should attack ideas not people. sorry I have no control over other people.

but just because you can pull out what you see is wrong in her behavior, does that justify using the same tactics when responding?

you are so busy finding fault in others you never stop and actually listen to what is being said.
I hear what you say the fact that you are wrong sdoesnt mean I do not hear you. However the only fault I see in you is
#1 A misunderstand of grace
#2 Blind allegiance to one of satans ministers
 
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i got no problem attacking you.
you're a liar and a heretic.
if i get banned and you stay, that's fine.
I KNOW WHO I HAVE BELIEVED.
k?:D
I know who you believe too, Satan. You are an enemy of God, and everything godly
 
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AnandaHya

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You resist the Lord Himself, not me. I am nothing more than a vessel He uses
clarification of point please: are you saying not agreeing with you or "resisting" you is the same as resisting God?