God-Adonai-And-HaShem

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evyaniy

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Philippians 2

5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yahshua, 6 Who, existing in the form of YAH, didn’t consider equality with YAH a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a Servant, being made in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient to the point of death, yes, the death of the cross. 9 Therefore YAH also highly exalted Him, and gave to Him the Name which is Above every name, 10 that at the name of Yahshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Yahshua the Messiah is Adonai, to the glory of YAH the Father.
 
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evyaniy

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#82
Colossians 1

12 giving thanks to the Father, Who made us fit to be partakers of the inheritance of the holy ones in light, 13 Who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of His love, 14 in Whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins.
15 He is the image of the invisible YAH(EL), the Firstborn of all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created in the heavens and on the earth, visible things and invisible things, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things are held together. 18 He is the Head of the body, the assembly, Who is the beginning, the Firstborn from the dead, that in all things He might have the preeminence. 19 For all the fullness was pleased to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself by Him, whether things on the earth or things in the heavens, having made peace through the blood of His cross.
 

wattie

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#83
This thread may be the thought that I've had for a long time ... That people seem to deny..

Messianic Jews who don't actually believe Jesus is fully God.

Acceptancing the OT and the 4 gospels... rejecting the rest.

Heresy
 

Nehemiah6

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#84
Yahshua is One with the Father. When you see the Son you see the Father.
I did not hear you say "Yes. Jesus is God. Absolutely". Going off on a tangent is not enough. We are not talking about God the Father but about God the Son, who is now the Lord Jesus Christ. Is He "GOD MANIFEST IN THE FLESH"?
 

Nehemiah6

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Messianic Jews who don't actually believe Jesus is fully God.
And therein lies a very serious problem. Jesus said "Except ye believe that I AM, you will die in your sins" and "Before Abraham was I AM". When we go back to Exodus chapter 3, "I AM" is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, therefore He is also called "the LORD" (YHWH). As a result Thomas -- a strict Jew -- seeing the resurrected Savior said "My Lord and MY GOD!"
 
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evyaniy

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#86
my Adonai and my Elohiym.
 
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evyaniy

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#87
YAHAVAH. Eternal Word.

John

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YAH, and the Word was YAH. 2 The same was in the beginning with YAH. 3 All things were made through Him. Without Him, nothing was made that has been made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

14 The Word became flesh and lived among us. We saw His glory, such glory as of the only born Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.
 

Magenta

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YAHAVAH. Eternal Word.

John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YAH, and the Word was YAH. 2 The same was in the beginning with YAH. 3 All things were made through Him. Without Him, nothing was made that has been made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

14 The Word became flesh and lived among us. We saw His glory, such glory as of the only born Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 1:1 + 14a
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