Ukraine the bad guy?

[cv5]

That is only a precursor of what is planned. A digital currency that is truly one world, meaning Kenya and India and Germany will not have different currencies that you must exchange. Also, because it is digital the government will know every penny you receive and every penny you spend. They will also have the ability at any time to shut off access to your money for whatever reason they want.

Now you can imagine that dictators like Putin and Xi are not about to give that kind of power to someone else, hence WWIII

IMO, all of this is going to be tied to AI. Putin has said as much in interviews "the future is AI".
Furthermore, I do not doubt that in these latter days, certain governments are somehow of other collaborating with fallen angels, just as they were in the days of Noah.

Mat 24:37
But G1161 as G5618 the days G2250 of Noe G3575 were, so G3779 shall G2071 ➔ also G2532 the coming G3952 of the Son G5207 of man G444 be. G2071

G5618 - hōsper - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)

hṓsper, hoce'-per; just as, i.e. exactly like:—(even, like) as.

The end of the Church age is near IMO.

 

[cv5]

Now you can imagine that dictators like Putin and Xi are not about to give that kind of power to someone else, hence WWIII

Agree. But all will have at least this in common when the time comes....that being worshipping their king.

Rev 13:4
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

 

[cv5]

Ezekiel 38 aside....
This is definitely about money and resources. Russia wants them and Ukraine has them. Russia thought it could steal them by being a bully and Ukraine wasn't the wimps or the idiots that Russia thought them to be.

That's it in a nutshell.

It is to a certain extent about stealing resources NOW. Russia is going to take booty to cover the cost of the conflict (oil, industry and agricultural land and slaves).

But before the coup, there was normal international relations and more or less mutually beneficial business relationships.

 

[ZNP]

IMO, all of this is going to be tied to AI. Putin has said as much in interviews "the future is AI".
Furthermore, I do not doubt that in these latter days, certain governments are somehow of other collaborating with fallen angels, just as they were in the days of Noah.

Mat 24:37
But G1161 as G5618 the days G2250 of Noe G3575 were, so G3779 shall G2071 ➔ also G2532 the coming G3952 of the Son G5207 of man G444 be. G2071

G5618 - hōsper - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)

hṓsper, hoce'-per; just as, i.e. exactly like:—(even, like) as.

The end of the Church age is near IMO.

The world is playing a game of monopoly and it ultimately winds up with one world ruler. If you have one world currency with the ruler having complete control over who can and cannot buy and sell then that is where you wind up. That is what WWIII will be about, who controls that currency.

Meanwhile all the sheeple buy the story that the leaders are going to be a good shepherd who cares for the sheep. There are two types of unbelievers, those who see through all this and are trying to get to the top of the heap like everyone else, and the vast majority which are sheeple and buy into that narrative. Anyone who keeps talking about "we must do this now or else we lose this country" is either one of these naive sheeple or else they are the worst of the worst liars.

 

[cv5]

Ezekiel 38 aside....
This is definitely about money and resources. Russia wants them and Ukraine has them. Russia thought it could steal them by being a bully and Ukraine wasn't the wimps or the idiots that Russia thought them to be.

That's it in a nutshell.

Another thing.....before the 2014 (ahem) "unrest", Ukraine was intact and (sort of) prospering. But the massive parasite load of corrupt OFFICIALS (including those who were international) was never going to go away.

Everything is wiped out now. GDP is in the toilet. Ukraine has been reduced to a beggar with a tin cup.

Who you gonna blame? Putin? The common Ukrainian citizen? McCain? The Obummer admin? Who?

 

[ZNP]

Ukraine is merely setting the stage for the coup

Ukraine was instrumental in the inflation in both food and energy costs as well as influencing Saudi Arabia to join the China/Russia alliance.

Already we are seeing France and soon Germany waffling in their support of the US.

In order to be the supreme ruler they need several things, they have to control the Mid East oil, they must control the high end chip manufacturing in Taiwan, and they need 50% of the world's GDP to join them.

You can't get control of the chip manufacturing in Taiwan by bombing the place or even by putting an embargo on them. Also you can't seize control of the Mid East as long as Israel is the major military power in the region and they will continue to be that as long as the US is the world's biggest superpower.

Therefore, once you see that this is not about Ukraine, it is about who has the world's reserve currency then you realize an attack on the US is inevitable to their strategy. Instead of going to war with Israel and Taiwan, they will hit the US with a surprise attack. If the US as a world power is obliterated then Taiwan falls and Israel is no longer the biggest power in the Mideast.

 

[ZNP]

The reason the globalists provoked Russia is because they know that Russia would never agree to them having all that power with one world currency.

The way the 1% works is to provoke major powers into destroying each other. The ones at the center of this are provoking a major war between Russia/China and the US. They want these powers to destroy themselves.

 

[kinda]

That sort of lines up what the supposed Albert Pike letter says....

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

 

[JohnDB]

Another thing.....before the 2014 (ahem) "unrest", Ukraine was intact and (sort of) prospering. But the massive parasite load of corrupt OFFICIALS (including those who were international) was never going to go away.

Everything is wiped out now. GDP is in the toilet. Ukraine has been reduced to a beggar with a tin cup.

Who you gonna blame? Putin? The common Ukrainian citizen? McCain? The Obummer admin? Who?

Ok....you are expressing a double standard here.

Israeli "settlements" in Palestinian's land subsidized by the Israeli government has been deemed to be wrong. So if it's wrong for Israel to do this to Palestinians then it's wrong for Russia to do the same to Ukraine. Which the Russians did much MORE of and went further than Israel did....even so far as importing Russian oligarchs (billionaires) to exert control economically of many aspects of Ukranian life including regional government. (The more corrupt elements of Ukraine's government)

Then comes Zelenski and more honest dealings....more western favoritism (less controls and more fair market pricing than previously experienced by Ukrainians.

So Russia invades to "save their people". What a crock of manure!

Get a clue! Different titles but same actions.

 

[ZNP]

That sort of lines up what the supposed Albert Pike letter says....

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…

The reason they can do this is because of our compromise with sin, the flesh, the world, etc.

Freedom of religion is a failed idea. It will be done away with during the millennial reign of Jesus Christ.

 

[cv5]

Ok....you are expressing a double standard here.

Israeli "settlements" in Palestinian's land subsidized by the Israeli government has been deemed to be wrong. So if it's wrong for Israel to do this to Palestinians then it's wrong for Russia to do the same to Ukraine. Which the Russians did much MORE of and went further than Israel did....even so far as importing Russian oligarchs (billionaires) to exert control economically of many aspects of Ukranian life including regional government. (The more corrupt elements of Ukraine's government)

Then comes Zelenski and more honest dealings....more western favoritism (less controls and more fair market pricing than previously experienced by Ukrainians.

So Russia invades to "save their people". What a crock of manure!

Get a clue! Different titles but same actions.

I do not for one second believe that the main reason for Russia invading was for the purpose of "saving" anybody.

 

[SomeDisciple]

John DB asked: why didn't Obama help Ukraine in 2014?

Obvious Answer: To distance the appearance of US involvement in the violent revolution that took place in Ukraine. To give people time to forget that there was a violent revolution... thereby making the Neo-Ukrainain government look like it is the "status-quo" so that Russia would appear to be the ones violating.

Also, it gave us time to quit Afghanistan, so that we could concentrate on wasting money in Ukraine.

 

[SomeDisciple]

...Also, Ukraine was John McCain's baby. If Ukraine kicked Russia out before the election it would have GAURANTEED the election for McCain, and McCain was not supposed to win, Clinton was supposed to.

 

[JohnDB]

So....
I guess righteous and admirable Russia is holy in their shooting of women and children.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/17/europe/wagner-commanders-russia-kill-children-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[gb9]

So....
I guess righteous and admirable Russia is holy in their shooting of women and children.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/17/europe/wagner-commanders-russia-kill-children-intl-hnk/index.html

cnn= fake news.

 

[kinda]

cnn= fake news.

I always though CNN stood for, Clinton News Network, but maybe that's fake news also.

 

[cv5]

"To make this approach even more enticing, the West could also offer some limited relief from sanctions in return for Russia’s willingness to abide by a cease-fire..."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648278340095098885

 

[JohnDB]

cnn= fake news.

So you think CNN paid this guy for his testimony even though it is corroborated by MANY MULTITUDES of people to where even the UN is investigating?

Ummmm.....that's a real stretch of the imagination you have there.

 

[gb9]

So you think CNN paid this guy for his testimony even though it is corroborated by MANY MULTITUDES of people to where even the UN is investigating?

Ummmm.....that's a real stretch of the imagination you have there.

the u n is as fake as cnn.


both sides are committing horrible acts. the media here focuses on what russia does and ignores what ukraine does.

 

[JohnDB]

the u n is as fake as cnn.


both sides are committing horrible acts. the media here focuses on what russia does and ignores what ukraine does.

When MOST of the world has smaller armies than Russia and is in constant fear of being invaded by another country....what Russia has done doesn't go unnoticed. You pay attention to predators....not so much the acts of violence that the prey commits.