FBI HAS BEGUN INFILTRATING CHURCHES, IS YOUR CHURCH NEXT?

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Bob-Carabbio

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FBI HAS BEGUN INFILTRATING CHURCHES, IS YOUR CHURCH NEXT?
I hope so. They will hear the Word -preached, and hopefully will become Born again. The FBI isn't our enemy, it's out "Mission Field".
 

Lanolin

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Church has begun infiltrating the FBI, is your spy agency next?
 

ZNP

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Daniel 6:22 "My God sent his angel, and he shut the mouths of the lions. They have not hurt me, because I was found innocent in his sight. Nor have I ever done any wrong before you, Your Majesty."
 

Flannery

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Really? Has anyone had that experience personally? I remember seeing an episode of a TV show about that maybe 20 years ago, it was called "Cover Me" and it was about a family whose dad was a member of the FBI. It followed the kids growing up and finding out what he said, and how they wondered about religion as well as why the family changed churches so often.

I don't know how long that show ran or what the outcome was, but there was one.
 

Truth01

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The Catholic church has been running Jesuits to do so. as spies for centuries. Jesuits according to catholic writings were created to infiltrate the protestant churches to destabilise them and return them to Catholicism. According to the bible Catholicism will one day combine with many protestant churches that do not follow Gods word to try dominate world politics and trade. This is the written and recorded belief of almost every founder of the major protestant churches prior to this period where churches are now randomly formed without church members being aware what the difference is between being protestant and being catholic. I hope the FBI has noted developments of this nature and that they are trying to put these in check and not that they are just trying to turn us all into atheist.
 

Underwhosewings

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They ALWAYS have more guns and bigger guns.

Best thing to do is simply stay off their radar screens except for being noticed as upright, harmless, and kind. (But not overly so) Then they don't care about you or think of you again.
Let your light shine!
They might get converted.
Matthew 10:16 KJV
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
 

arthurfleminger

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Media and acadamia have attacked conservative Christians/Churches as haters for not supporting their liberal/sinful agendas. Now they've begun an attack in a whole new direction, painting conservative Christians as National Terrorists!

Christian nationalists have awoken a fierce Christian resistance movement: report

Christian nationalists have awoken a fierce Christian resistance movement: report (msn.com)

Conservative Christians has best be on the alert, you are under attack.

These media/academia attacks give the US government an excuse to infiltrate Christian Churches and save the public.
 

Billyd

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Nothing new. Churches need to continue preaching the Gospel, bringing salvation to the lost, an ministering to those in need. Who knows. The infiltrator may be the next one saved.
 

ZNP

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Nothing new. Churches need to continue preaching the Gospel, bringing salvation to the lost, an ministering to those in need. Who knows. The infiltrator may be the next one saved.
Yes, I would recommend reading the biographies of

John G. Paton: The Apostle of Christ to the Cannibals...
by Eugene Myers Harrison

And also a biography of Jim Elliot.
 

Nehemiah6

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Don't care what you think of the Catholic Church, this is a very dangerous precedent for all Christian Churches that don't agree with the political commizars in Washington DC!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed. Now who has the guts to arrest the FBI goons and lock them up (along with their masters)?

What happened to the Marines and Special Forces who spent their lives training to protect freedoms and democracy all over the world except in their own country? Taking an oath against domestic enemies, then sitting back and twiddling their thumbs.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Really? Has anyone had that experience personally? I remember seeing an episode of a TV show about that maybe 20 years ago, it was called "Cover Me" and it was about a family whose dad was a member of the FBI. It followed the kids growing up and finding out what he said, and how they wondered about religion as well as why the family changed churches so often.

I don't know how long that show ran or what the outcome was, but there was one.
Yes.
What do you want to know?
 

Flannery

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Yes.
What do you want to know?
Well, how do you know they were the real FBI? If they were undercover, then they kept their identities and memberships a secret. I know there are a lot of problems with the state, but people have faked being police officers and pretended before.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Well, how do you know they were the real FB👀? If they were undercover, then they kept their identities and memberships a secret. I know there are a lot of problems with the state, but people have faked being police officers and pretended before.
A. I don't think that the vast majority of those employed by those agencies care what is going on in churches. There are good and bad in any large organization it seems reasonable to think.
B. Some have been led to Christ.
C. Some have shared personal details having participated in my social Christian activities and meals.
D. Over time you learn through those you know who others are.
E. One of my gifts is discernment of spirits.
F. At a couple meetings, we've had several show up in partial uniform. You might think they were masquerading as such, but that makes no sense to me in that context. Maybe you can explain why people would dress up as a member of a gt agency to attend a Bible study or social gathering. Maybe you are right?
G. There have been whistleblowers as sources of articles written in the media to inform the public that there are many assigned to the evangelical mega churches around America.
H. A pastor who ran for high political office years ago had a report circulated throughout the bureau and state police to report his followers, ie. Bumper stickers, etc. Those who were supporters of that pastor and of Ron Paul, were to be reported to the bureau. Apparently, there are those in charge of the agency who have political agendas. They use their position to influence or criminalize supporters of their political opposition. They have an unlimited budget and employees to use for political manipulation. Who would ever dream that could happen?
 

Flannery

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A. I don't think that the vast majority of those employed by those agencies care what is going on in churches. There are good and bad in any large organization it seems reasonable to think.
B. Some have been led to Christ.
C. Some have shared personal details having participated in my social Christian activities and meals.
D. Over time you learn through those you know who others are.
E. One of my gifts is discernment of spirits.
F. At a couple meetings, we've had several show up in partial uniform. You might think they were masquerading as such, but that makes no sense to me in that context. Maybe you can explain why people would dress up as a member of a gt agency to attend a Bible study or social gathering. Maybe you are right?
G. There have been whistleblowers as sources of articles written in the media to inform the public that there are many assigned to the evangelical mega churches around America.
H. A pastor who ran for high political office years ago was circulated throughout the bureau and state police. Those who were supports of that pastor and Ron Paul, were to be reported to the bureau. Apparently, there are those in charge of the agency who have political agendas. They use their position to influence or criminalize supporters of their political opposition. They have an unlimited budget and employees to use for political manipulation. Who would ever dream that could happen?
I wasn't questioning your abilities as a judge of character. In my experience most adults can and do make accurate character assessments, the problem with a police agent arises when one knows someone to be of bad character and colludes anyway (it's racketeering). What I was concerned about is the fact that when working in plainclothes, a cop is still required to be wearing his bade visibly. Either they're bad cops or they're bogus, and not cops at all.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I wasn't questioning your abilities as a judge of character. In my experience most adults can and do make accurate character assessments, the problem with a police agent arises when one knows someone to be of bad character and colludes anyway (it's racketeering). What I was concerned about is the fact that when working in plainclothes, a cop is still required to be wearing his bade visibly. Either they're bad cops or they're bogus, and not cops at all.
Ok. I know there are decent police.
Those who are respectable have my respect.

There are a lot of undercover police too. They park in speed traps around here in unmarked cars.

What you and I agree on is that it's very immoral for the gt to assign agents to churches. They are there to harm and push the top level director's agenda. If they are doing this with the liberal Roman Catholic churches, then we can presume that it's been going on for a long time in other churches. They are to be excluded from fellowship. Galatians 2:4

"And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:"

There were also some of my students that told me of their work days when something interesting occured. Just small talk, usually to brag. That's pretty normal.for guys to brag.

DHS has huge networks that commit corporate espionage. They get jobs at big corporations to spy and gather Intel. C👁️A owns many major corporations and steal their competitors' secrets to gain financial advantage. There's a long history of that. Jenifer Gardner starred in a popular series that was based on that.
 

Underwhosewings

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The Catholic church has been running Jesuits to do so. as spies for centuries. Jesuits according to catholic writings were created to infiltrate the protestant churches to destabilise them and return them to Catholicism. According to the bible Catholicism will one day combine with many protestant churches that do not follow Gods word to try dominate world politics and trade. This is the written and recorded belief of almost every founder of the major protestant churches prior to this period where churches are now randomly formed without church members being aware what the difference is between being protestant and being catholic. I hope the FBI has noted developments of this nature and that they are trying to put these in check and not that they are just trying to turn us all into atheist.
Well, how do you know they were the real FBI? If they were undercover, then they kept their identities and memberships a secret. I know there are a lot of problems with the state, but people have faked being police officers and pretended before.
Fear not.
1 Samuel 2:30 KJV
…..them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.
 

Flannery

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Ok. I know there are decent police.
Those who are respectable have my respect.

There are a lot of undercover police too. They park in speed traps around here in unmarked cars.

What you and I agree on is that it's very immoral for the gt to assign agents to churches. They are there to harm and push the top level director's agenda. If they are doing this with the liberal Roman Catholic churches, then we can presume that it's been going on for a long time in other churches. They are to be excluded from fellowship. Galatians 2:4

"And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:"

There were also some of my students that told me of their work days when something interesting occured. Just small talk, usually to brag. That's pretty normal.for guys to brag.

DHS has huge networks that commit corporate espionage. They get jobs at big corporations to spy and gather Intel. C👁️A owns many major corporations and steal their competitors' secrets to gain financial advantage. There's a long history of that. Jenifer Gardner starred in a popular series that was based on that.
Yes, but what are they looking for? Most corporate espionage is "headhunting", the practice of seeking to recruit agents, sales representatives, or advertisers with a lot of business connections in their rolodexes to work for a new company, bring the client base along with them. It meets with mixed success, because the person's business associates might be brand loyal instead of just happy doing business with that person specifically. There's also industrial espionage, which focuses on pilfering technological secrets and chemical formulas. for example.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Yes, but what are they looking for? Most corporate espionage is "headhunting", the practice of seeking to recruit agents, sales representatives, or advertisers with a lot of business connections in their rolodexes to work for a new company, bring the client base along with them. It meets with mixed success, because the person's business associates might be brand loyal instead of just happy doing business with that person specifically. There's also industrial espionage, which focuses on pilfering technological secrets and chemical formulas. for example.
All of that and more.
 

iamsoandso

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Really? Has anyone had that experience personally? I remember seeing an episode of a TV show about that maybe 20 years ago, it was called "Cover Me" and it was about a family whose dad was a member of the FBI. It followed the kids growing up and finding out what he said, and how they wondered about religion as well as why the family changed churches so often.

I don't know how long that show ran or what the outcome was, but there was one.

Maybe it's that I'm old and so I remember these things in the news as they unfolded, lol? Anyway there were/are programs that they tried to conceal but then admitted to. COINTELPRO stands for "Counter Intelligence program" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO and then there were others, CHAOS(CIA) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO then follow the links at the bottom of the page for even more "operations/programs"

Not all of the groups they infiltrated were religious groups but for instance MLK's organization was/is and so was Jim Jones "peoples temple", (Pentecostal) https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=16572 and these are the reasons why(I think) there are the different opinions surrounding many of the events afterwards i.e. 9/11,Branch Dividians,Peoples Temple,Manson ect. The anti war Hippies in the 60's,70's regarded the same to have taken place with them(agents infiltrated the farms where they gathered in groups).

Anyway if they after the burglary admitted to COINTELPRO AND then after the freedom of information Act these other programs became public knowledge it is no longer an conspiracy theory because they admitted to the several programs that they were involved with. So it's not a situation where we should think "are they?" because they themselves(FBI,CIA,ect.) have publicly informed us that they have,,are ect...
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The Fed is the enemy of the people....imagine that.