Prophecy warfare

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We need to distinguish the purpose of God for the Old Testament Prophets and the New Testament Prophet and those who prophecy.

God raised up Prophets to Israel to speak God`s word concerning their sin and what Judgments God would bring. The Prophets would also bring messages of comfort telling Israel of God`s future plans for them. Prophets of Israel also spoke judgments of God upon the nations.

Then when Jesus ascended to the Father He was made Head of the Body. He then sent His Holy Spirit to build up and mature the Body. The Lord then gave of Himself in 5 different ministries - Apostle Prophet, Shepherd, teacher and evangelist. These were to equip the believers for the work of the ministry. (Eph. 4: 11 - 13)

So, obviously there is a difference between the OT and NT Prophets and their function. To try and compare OT Prophets with today`s Prophets is not valid.

Note - the office of a Prophet functions to a greater sphere than that when someone just prophecies.
 
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A prophet is one who reads and understands scripture and is able to speak the truth and Gospel to others.
 
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For those interested, you can find a study Here on the nine (9) gifts of the Sprit (which includes prophecy), as listed in 1Cor 12v7-11...
 
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jb said:
For those interested, you can find a study Here on the nine (9) gifts of the Sprit (which includes prophecy), as listed in 1Cor 12v7-11...
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There are probably more like a total of 20 spiritual gifts listed in the NT. Most of them are not spectacular.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
So the primarily goal of this prophet is to speak about "the familiar spirit of Jezebel". And what if we were to respond with "The Bible does not speak of any such spirit of Jezebel"? But when the prophet cannot even spell "Jezebel" correctly then what should everyone do? ROTFL?
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Im searching through all the right avenues to see if im an intercessor or a prophet. nothing more nothing less.
I know that when i speak to people face to face i start to proclaim.
 
Fundaamental

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ResidentAlien said:
Ahh, Gary Morgan. Is that where you got your prophecy credentials, from his school of the prophets? Nice to see he has such ringing endorsements from Bill Johnson, Shawn Bolz and Che Ahn: https://schoolofprophets.org.au/endorsements/. Morgan must be the next Todd Bentley.
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have you got your Sherlock head on today, or it Mr Watson.
Gary morgon is someone I met today.
 
Fundaamental

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ResidentAlien said:
Sorry to hear that.



Unfortunately, I have both a Sherlock spirit and a Mr. Watson spirit. I have no control over when they take over; it's my gift.
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I've noticed ☺️

But you know this is what happend with the 450 prophet's of Jezabel they where told to follow the lord and baal.

So they ended up prophesying for baal after being held captive by Jezabel, there was born the Jezabel spirit. probably the reason some profits where stripped of there Gift.

How ever Sherlock this is not elementary.
 
ResidentAlien

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Fundaamental said:
So they ended up prophesying for baal after being held captive by Jezabel, there was born the Jezabel spirit.
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Yeah, gotta watch out for that Jezebel spirit; I've been saying that for years. And the sneaky squid spirit, that's another really bad one.
 
Dino246

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wattie said:
I'm not saying that the GIFT of prophecy in still operating but that the the gift WAS speaking forth God's Word supernaturally, without having scripture complete. So a pastor now won't have the gift but when they speak forth scripture.. it is God's Word being messaged.. which is prophecy (scripture).

Different things. Not using the GIFT of prophecy obviously.. but with prophecy in the written word complete.. referring to it by the Holy Spirit's leading-- it is revealed prophecy.

Different definitions between us obviously.. that's okay. We won't agree but I won't condemn. No cancelling here :)
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No need for condemnation or cancelling (which is ironic as the OP has apparently put me on Ignore). I don't think we're using different definitions, but we may be making points that rely on semantic differences. I disagree that all Scripture is prophecy. Most of the writers of Scripture are considered "prophets", though I would not use that term for Mark, Luke, or the recorder(s) of Kings and Chronicles. The prophecy that is recorded in Scripture was, is, and always will be valid prophecy. However, reading it aloud as part of a sermon is not "prophesying".
 
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Fundaamental said:
I've noticed ☺️

But you know this is what happend with the 450 prophet's of Jezabel they where told to follow the lord and baal.

So they ended up prophesying for baal after being held captive by Jezabel, there was born the Jezabel spirit. probably the reason some profits where stripped of there Gift.

How ever Sherlock this is not elementary.
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Speaking of "elementary", learn how to spell the woman's name properly; you come across as careless and foolish when you misspell it.

You should read the text more carefully instead of scanning it and making things up out of thin air. The people who prophesied for Baal were never prophets of YHVH, and there is nothing in the passage about a "spirit of Jezebel".
 
Fundaamental

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ResidentAlien said:
I agree, Joyce Meyer is a perfect example of a Jezebel.
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I thought you may say that isn't that funny.

Is it her face lift ?. Or is it something else.

Perhaps you thought her revaluations about aliens was from a different mother ship to you. 😊
 
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Fundaamental said:
Signs you have the gift of prophecy.

You desire deep intimacy with God. You have a deep prayer life.
You hear God speak to you in many of the ways in which He speaks to the prophets.
Always seeking to hear the Lord on situations. Prophets always looks for what God has to say
You have premonitions or received information from the Lord on future events that you’ve seen come to pass.
If you are a Seer, you will see things in the spirit that others cannot see. You may even believe it was your imagination at first.
You are keenly aware that your words have authority and what you speak actually happens. Sometimes you may even be afraid to verbalize some things because you don’t want to see them happen.
Other people have told you that things you’ve prayed or said actually happened
You are drawn to the prophetic and probably have a lot of dreams and see symbols of eagles
You’ve helped people get free or delivered from situations
You have a standard for righteousness and can see many problems within your church that others may not see
You feel separate and apart from most people in your church and see the need for deep repentance
You generally do not follow other people, you follow God and what He is telling you to do. This means that you are a loner and you may not have a lot of friends, if any at all.
You’re often misunderstood.
You are a black and white person. There is no in between.
Your deepest desire is to turn people away from sin and towards God. From sin to repentance to restoration.
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From reading the old testament there was a war waged by the spirit of Jezebel to kill all the prophets, and many where killed.
So many where killed that Church leaders started to hide the prophets in caves.
Obadiah hid 100 prophets in caves at one time.

This is just one account but i would imagine the number of prophets for the lord are not accounted for are even higher, as Jezebel was estimated at one time to have many of her own prophets.
I guess we could say the same about Jezabel prophets being even higher.

What do you need to do if you suspect you have the gift of prophecy
How do you get rid of a Jezabel spirit if ther following you around trying to kill your gift of prophecy.
I also read that if your ancestors had the gift of prophecy you could be under a generation curse from Jezabel.

I also read that the war between the two sets of prophets has never gone away and the church needs more people to be fully trained if they suspect they have the gift of prophecy.
How do you know what gift you get given of the holy spirit.
Given the over whelming evidence that the Jezabel spirit is in full operation today, would it be the case the lord has gifted many Christians with the gift of prophecy.
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almost all of the 1st section applies to me!
 
wolfwint

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Fundaamental said:
The whole Bible is based upon prophecy from start to finish.

Prophecy is vital to learn and be understood. It leads people to salvation, and keeps people safe.

The Gift of prophecy needs to be understood and appreciated, a person with the gift of prophecy needs to wait on the lord continuously, because the spirit of Jezabel and her spirits of prophecy will alway try to deceive the gift of prophecy from the lord.
The gift of prophecy can not be demanded, and must be discerned into every situation, for an answer from the lord.

However the spirit of Jezabel looks to steal the future plans of prophecy by deceiving the the gift of prophecy a person may have.

From testimonials I have read the spirit of Jezabel has followed people around from the day they where born because there parents had the spirit of prophecy from the lord.

I have also read many testimonies from people who got a spirit of Jezebel following them round giving them false prophecies from being in contact with false profits.

I've read up on all the attributes of a familiar spirit of Jezabel and a false profit,
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What you are teaching, has nothing to do with that what the bible tells for the believer who follows Christ.
This teaching will bring you away from the word of God.
For to understand the will of God we need the Holy Spirit. He open our understanding for the Fathers word in which he has everything revealed what we need to know.
 
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Fundaamental said:
The gift of prophecy is not a one time gift.
it can not be demanded.
The gift of prophecy comes everytime you wait on the lord with patience, and with only one thought in mind, which is to serve God, to be a true witness for God, and to please God.
anything else outside of this is false prohecy.
This is where anyone can recieve a gift of prophecy. and server God like Jesus did.
Jesus said you can all go on to do greater things than i,
which would mean recieving the Gift of prohecy everytime you wait on the lord.

The Gift of prophecy is also to be an intercessor for the lord through prayer.
Jesus was always praying to father for no doubt. intercession.
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You are not teaching what the bible teaches. So how you can be a prophet of God, if you are telling against his word?
The bible calls those people false prophets.
 
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