Good Guys versus Bad Boyz: Winning the Hand of a woman book review

[persecuted]

I think a girl who is truly seeking God in her life would certainly only consider a man who is doing the same.
None are truly "good" except God himself..which goes along with that verse I posted up there. However, "God fearing Christian men trying their best to be holy and follow the bible to its fullest", as you said, sounds about right. I think that's how we should be.

Bad boy, good guy, etc. etc. They're just labels right? Labels can have some uses, but they're often just dumb too. A person can't be contained with a simple label. So I say forget labels and look at the person's heart and intentions. People are complex. We can wear many labels. One person might label us as one thing, and another will label us as another thing. It has a lot to do with perspective, and we each have one of those huh?
I'm not sure you'll find the answer you're looking for here. Those are my thoughts though. I don't think I have anything to add to them at this moment. It's not a topic I'm losing sleep over.

That's all I've gawt to say bout thayat.

So after all of that, it basically comes out that you actually AGREE with me that the good guy vs. bad boy debate is a simplistic waste of time. Why didn't you just say you agreed with me in the first place then?

 

[persecuted]

those are more like questions for normal or sex-obsessed.. not good vs bad

Disagree, but if so, the good vs bad debate must cover such a narrow area of subject matter as to be irrelavant. Thanks for the word "normal" though... makes me think there must then be good, NORMAL, and bad. Then all the normal guys should be like "what do I care if the guy who THINKS he is so good is getting nowhere? How about the normal guys?"

 

[Batman1978]

Persecuted- read the book dude.

Zeroturbulance- I like the Christian Bale Batman and the 90's animated one with Kevin Conroy as the voice of Batman...he has the coolest voice around.

Talking about Good Guys and Bad Boyz I came across this pic:

 

[trueimage15]

lol you guys are funny, it all depends on the girl and how you treat her

 

[niceguyJ]

Yei, I agree with you niceguy, you sure look like a nice guy *putting label on you*

Haha. Thanks. I'll take it...not that I have a choice. You have your opinion.
While I'm replying to you, let me say I've been impressed with some of your posts I've read. You seem much wiser than me when I was your age.

So after all of that, it basically comes out that you actually AGREE with me that the good guy vs. bad boy debate is a simplistic waste of time. Why didn't you just say you agreed with me in the first place then?

I wanted to explain how I felt about this in my words. Plus, I wasn't entirely sure what you were getting at.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Persecuted- read the book dude.

Zeroturbulance- I like the Christian Bale Batman and the 90's animated one with Kevin Conroy as the voice of Batman...he has the coolest voice around.

Talking about Good Guys and Bad Boyz I came across this pic:

I like the first Christian Bale batman, but not the second time he played him (The Dark Knight) because his voice was all messed up. I'm not familiar with the animated one.

 

[persecuted]

Persecuted- read the book dude.


lol.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I refuse to read anything more on this subject matter until someone can give me the simple starting point of the different definitions of the Good Guy and the Bad Boy. Why is it that I am supposed to just "get it" and yet when I say I don't no one can give me some answer???????????????????????????????????

 

[persecuted]

Oh, wait, that picture just came up on my computer... so I think I'm starting to get it now... Batman is the bad boy because he's scoring Wonder Woman and Superman is the good guy because he apparently sucks with women. Hhhmm... so I'm starting to get this, a bad boy is anyone that gets the chicks and a good guy is anyone that bombs out with them. Well why isn't the story just framed as "chicks dig the guys that do well with them and call them bad boys and don't like the ones that don't do well with them and call those ones good guys?" .... although, wait, I'm still not getting it because I'm thinking if Wonder Woman is the nympho she looks like, its not going to be very long before Batman is lying in a heap and she's figured out that she really truly needed Superman's super abilities. SO I assume that about three comic frames later SUPERMAN is the "badboy" and Batman is the "goodguy."


.... But now wait, what if Lex Luther and the Joker show up soon? Then who's the bad boy and the good guy??????????????????

 

[Megatron]

Oh, wait, that picture just came up on my computer... so I think I'm starting to get it now... Batman is the bad boy because he's scoring Wonder Woman and Superman is the good guy because he apparently sucks with women. Hhhmm... so I'm starting to get this, a bad boy is anyone that gets the chicks and a good guy is anyone that bombs out with them. Well why isn't the story just framed as "chicks dig the guys that do well with them and call them bad boys and don't like the ones that don't do well with them and call those ones good guys?" .... although, wait, I'm still not getting it because I'm thinking if Wonder Woman is the nympho she looks like, its not going to be very long before Batman is lying in a heap and she's figured out that she really truly needed Superman's super abilities. SO I assume that about three comic frames later SUPERMAN is the "badboy" and Batman is the "goodguy."


.... But now wait, what if Lex Luther and the Joker show up soon? Then who's the bad boy and the good guy??????????????????

No Superman is the good guy, he does everything perfectly, by the rules, and for everyones betterment
Batman is the bad boy, he is dark, mysterious, rough around the edges, and somewhat selfsih(seriously he could fix crime in gotham by redistributing a percentage of his company's revenue to fix the socioeconomic disparity in gothm, btu would rather fly around town in a body suit with a cape, due to lingering abandonment issues).


I know i was called a bad boy in chat when a guy asked why more girls said hey to me than to him...so i dont know

 

[zeroturbulence]

Bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do whatcha gonna do when they come for you...

 

[persecuted]

No Superman is the good guy, he does everything perfectly, by the rules, and for everyones betterment
Batman is the bad boy, he is dark, mysterious, rough around the edges, and somewhat selfsih(seriously he could fix crime in gotham by redistributing a percentage of his company's revenue to fix the socioeconomic disparity in gothm, btu would rather fly around town in a body suit with a cape, due to lingering abandonment issues).


I know i was called a bad boy in chat when a guy asked why more girls said hey to me than to him...so i dont know

Well its all STARTING to make sense, but then I've never understood why all of my life I've been categorized as "just plain loathsome" rather than the much more prestiged "bad boy". Or actually, if I switched this from comic books to musicians for a second, I'm thinking the heavy metal dudes would be the bad boys, the pop star/boy bands would be the good guys.... but then what happens when you try to throw the grunge bands in? Its like your jaws just gonna drop and the whole thing falls apart.

That's pretty deep about Batman... I always thought it was more of a miracle of trickle down economics... he gets $5 Billion in tax write offs and another $35 billion in bailouts for being too big to fail and is able to keep BOTH Alfred AND Robin employed... at least as eager volunteer interns.

 

[Megatron]

Well its all STARTING to make sense, but then I've never understood why all of my life I've been categorized as "just plain loathsome" rather than the much more prestiged "bad boy". Or actually, if I switched this from comic books to musicians for a second, I'm thinking the heavy metal dudes would be the bad boys, the pop star/boy bands would be the good guys.... but then what happens when you try to throw the grunge bands in? Its like your jaws just gonna drop and the whole thing falls apart.

That's pretty deep about Batman... I always thought it was more of a miracle of trickle down economics... he gets $5 Billion in tax write offs and another $35 billion in bailouts for being too big to fail and is able to keep BOTH Alfred AND Robin employed... at least as eager volunteer interns.

I think your music analogy actually works really well.

At one end yes you have the pop stars. At the other the metal guys. the thing is it isnt black and white its a spectrum. so grunge would be like 70% bad/30% good or something.

 

[persecuted]

I think your music analogy actually works really well.

At one end yes you have the pop stars. At the other the metal guys. the thing is it isnt black and white its a spectrum. so grunge would be like 70% bad/30% good or something.

I dunno, after I posted this one I had a serious rethink. I'll keep the metal guys where they are and add the rappers with them, but now I'm thinking the pop stars are perfect pretty boys girls absolutely love but who they can't have because they are gay.(That very outlook that started the show "Queer eye for the Straight Guy".) Meanwhile, given the grunge guy's claims of "hating themselves and wishing themselves dead" in part due to widespread chick problems that the grunge guys must be the good guys. But then the big problem is that your 70/30 thing is about right in describing their behaviour in terms of things like helping/caring about society. Sorry, I just dunno.

Oh, and I was thinking... I've worn both Batman and Superman shirts over the years and the Superman shirts have gone over WAY better with women for me anyhow.

 

[Jullianna]

Maybe the reason there's so much confusion is that the categories are wrong. Maybe they should be like this:

Bad boys: The ones some ladies want and think are cool until they actually have one in their lives, and after they do, they'll have something to whine and complain to the world about until they die.

Doormat boys: The ones who think the only way to have a lady in their lives is to repeat the phrase "Yes, Dear" over and over until they die.

Winner MEN: The guy who knows what he wants, knows who he is in God and lives it, behaves like a gentleman, but won't take junk from a woman just to have one in his life.

The same holds true whether you are male or female - If you don't respect yourself, no one else will either.

 

[Batman1978]

Persecuted...sorry dude, you will have to read the book, it gives the backgrounds, present day situations, and what you can do about the whole Bad Boyz thing...if I had to explain it I would have to copy three quarters of the book onto here.

I have to say one thing though, dont get too technical about a situation, you gonna blow some brain cells and overanalyse it and get frustrated. There is something called common sense, look at the situation in its simplest form. What I notice about some Christians is that they attach too much scriptures to a topic and the next thing you know you are arguing amongst each other, not respecnting each other's view (as people come out of different situations, cultures, intelligence levels, etc.). A good friend of mine once said that you can read a certain scripture a thousand times but the 1001th time you read it it will mean something different to you because of the situation you are in.

Also, what might be important to you might not be important to the next person, some of you might not need self-help books like this but there are some that does, so respect each other in this. And also dont underestimate the next person's relationship with God. God loves the just and the unjust too, He prospers who He wants to prosper and speaks to who He wants to speak...He dont punish us the way our sins deserve.

Also, when I wrote the book I told God that the Holy Spirit should guide me with every word (or at least the content as my grammar sucked a bit), coz I dont wanna stand on judgement day with Jesus looking at me and saying its because of me and this book that so many people went to hell, and I dont want to go there either, and I can tell you now if you start reading the book you will easily pick up that its Holy Spirit inspired. If you dont like it then by all means tell people this is a hazardous book, but you know the old saying "dont judge a book by its cover".

hope that cleared up some things

Peace.

 

[princessbella]

Maybe the reason there's so much confusion is that the categories are wrong. Maybe they should be like this:

Bad boys: The ones some ladies want and think are cool until they actually have one in their lives, and after they do, they'll have something to whine and complain to the world about until they die.

Doormat boys: The ones who think the only way to have a lady in their lives is to repeat the phrase "Yes, Dear" over and over until they die.

Winner MEN: The guy who knows what he wants, knows who he is in God and lives it, behaves like a gentleman, but won't take junk from a woman just to have one in his life.

The same holds true whether you are male or female - If you don't respect yourself, no one else will either.

i like that julianna, and i think your right

 

[jandian]

Is the link the fb page? I'm looking for the reviews.

 

[jandian]

LOL at Juliana

 

[persecuted]

Okay, so Batman1978 you're the actual author of the book? Sorry, didn't mean to rain on your parade, wish you the best of luck on your book sales.

Its just that I went through a period iin my life when this debate was trendy and I started doing simple things where I was actually doing very well with women. I'd do simple things like walk into a half full room where I had to sit somewhere, and instead of sit down beside the guy who looked most like me (like I think people are trained to do), I'd scan the room and sit beside the hottest girl and eventually start a conversation. Things would go well and I could feel the anger of the other men in the room when I did things like that and then I'd hear the "nice guy" whining and began wondering things like "what's so nice about not giving women attention or talking to them?" But it wasn't like I was being particularly bad ass or anything myself just perhaps a little bit blatant.

But for all I know this is exactly what your book is about?

.... but just the same I'd already rejected in its entirety the bad boy good guy jargon.

 

[Batman1978]

Jandian- sorry the link isnt visible but it is there. If you click on the pic it goes to the facebook page, if you click on the "Good Guys vs Bad Boys ? Men Rising" part you will see its a link. but anyway, here is the proper link to the review: Good Guys vs Bad Boys ? Men Rising

Persecuted- yes I am the author. Its ok I understand. There are some great tips in the book, the book's content isnt sucked out of my thumb, its from research.

By the way: the book was never meant for you to pick up hot chicks; its to give you good and constructive advice on how to win a lady that you really like and that might be potential as a future wife...all pure intentions.