Praise - Worship

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Dino246

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Worship encompasses praise, in my view.
 
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OLDMANBORNAGAIN

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Yes, I always thought that Praise and Worship of God were the one of the same!
 
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Yes, I always thought that Praise and Worship of God were the one of the same!
Not exactly the same. We were taught during the Charismatic renewal that they were however "we speak that which we know" happened. Praise is a different level than worship. Praise usually comes from the soul where worship comes from the spirit.

A good comparison is the closeness we have to the Person being praised or worshiped. Praise can be done from a distance while worship is up close and personal - much more intiment Please consider the different levels of friendship we have in the flesh. Some can be called friends while other must be called acquaintances.

Jesus while with the woman at the well said the Father "seeks those who will worship in spirit and in truth". Please note that He didn't say " praise".
 

Blain

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Do you understand a difference?
Well just from today the best way I can explain it is how this morning I was really in a state of worship with him today I was giving him praise so much so my hands would reach far enough so in a sense I kind of tried lift my praise as an extension of my hands it sounds odd I know but I couldn't give him enough praise and couldn't reach but the point is that it me reaching out to him coming to him it was all about him and my soul could not sing the notes it wished to sing

But then it became a state of worship where he is here with me and the joy that cannot be explained in simply being there with him singing and even dancing just having the utmost best time with him this is to me the best way I can explain it.

In theory and on paper Discussing this is easy to put into words but there comes a point where they simply cannot be explained when you reach a level of worship and praise with him that what your experiencing what your feeling what he is doing and speaking in that

It is hard to put into words you try to explain it but sometimes seems like nonsense to people and that is difficultlike I said it just simply can't really be explained
 

Grace911

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The highest form of praise and worship is obedience to Him and His Word. To do this, we must know God; we cannot be ignorant of Him ( Acts 17:23 ).
 

Cameron143

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One could argue the highest form of worship is in spirit and in truth.
 

Grace911

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One could argue the highest form of worship is in spirit and in truth.
Psa_119:151 Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.

Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
 

Cameron143

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Psa_119:151 Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.

Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
Worship entails more than truth and obedience. John 4:23-24.
 

Blain

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One could argue the highest form of worship is in spirit and in truth.
Jesus said in John 4:23-24. He said, But the hour cometh and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father seeketh such to worship Him
 

Grace911

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Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Joh 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Joh 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
 
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Read David, and how he Worshiped God, as the Ark of the Covenant approached the kingdom of Judah, by Praising Him through Dance and Song.

Praise is the ACT of Worship.
 

Blain

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Worship entails more than truth and obedience. John 4:23-24.
The obedience aspect is a form of worship not because we are obedient but because our hearts gladly obey. David himself knew the blessing of obedience how he would praise God for his law singing of how how he writes it on his heart. This was back when the law was for everyone else something to not sing about but God gave them for a reason and David saw why.

Worship can be done in many ways some dance for the Lord some sing for him some write to him God has a personal relationship with his children and every child shows their love and adoration for him in diffrerent ways each one special in it's own right
 

JaumeJ

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Praise is likened to thanksgiving and worship is giving all glory to our blessed Father.
 

Cameron143

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The obedience aspect is a form of worship not because we are obedient but because our hearts gladly obey. David himself knew the blessing of obedience how he would praise God for his law singing of how how he writes it on his heart. This was back when the law was for everyone else something to not sing about but God gave them for a reason and David saw why.

Worship can be done in many ways some dance for the Lord some sing for him some write to him God has a personal relationship with his children and every child shows their love and adoration for him in diffrerent ways each one special in it's own right
Sure. I don't deny the truth aspect of worship. Worshipping as the Lord has instructed is vital to true worship. But it is also to be done from our innermost being or you merely have a form of godliness while denying the power thrreof.
 

Blain

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Sure. I don't deny the truth aspect of worship. Worshipping as the Lord has instructed is vital to true worship. But it is also to be done from our innermost being or you merely have a form of godliness while denying the power thrreof.
From our inner most being, that is exactly how I would describe it.
You know I am not sure why nut ;ate;y God has been walomh me around 4 or 5 and this interupts my sleep but I use it to my advantage and this is when he and I worship together.

This morning something happened, I was immensely close with him this morning The love that I was enveloped in the love I was expressing to him as the spirit I imagine was dancing around us because it was that impactful that close everything I have come to know of him thus far everything my heart has for him theway I know him his personality his attributes his traits I know what makes him laugh I know what touches his heart I can tell you in an instant when he lets me what he is feeling or thinking because we just know each other.

The love and all of this that I treasure I was just in tears thinking about Christian chat. Even though it was bad for my eyes and I hadn't been online in a very long time due to the fact being on here strains my eyes I have tried all kinds of things even this dark mode thing I have works but only in part.

But it was in my discovery of the secrets of the kingdom that is found in this worship that he gave me a message a mission and it was one where I was promised that if I obey I would finally be given what I have longed for for so long. I would enter into a whole other level with him he knew my heart he knew I wanted to go deeper that I wanted to go as far as I was allowed but I could never seem to breach that barrier.

I just knew there was more thinking about the bible all the doctrines denominations all the stuff you see here and throughout the body it has always bugged me I mean is it not obvious that satans best tactic as he knows how war works is to divide confuse and conquer and Jesus clearly warned us the bible warned us this was going to happen

A kingdom divided cannot stand and my reasoning was that if the method we are using to know God tounderstand the word of God is not working and we see the end reults always being the same is that not the very definition of insanity?

I figured Jesus was able to silence the Pharisee's making them unable to respond as they tried to twist words entrap him they represented the very tactic you see all the time in these debates but Jesus was and knew the truth he was able to do this easily.

But that was it wasn't it? he is the truth so if in all our studying in all our research growing ect. in the word of God yet the truth seems to still escape us maybe instead I considered myself not ready to study the word.

I went to Jesus directly I sworse to him that I wanted the truth the real thing and that I would not accept anything less than that I surrendered utterly and completely to him even being on my knees having my head as low as it could be I wanted the truth that badly.

Anyways when I obeyed him and came on here I made a thread called is Jesus your Lord or something like that it has been a while.

I never know what I am going to write when he calls meto write I am the pen he is the writer I just let him take over I become a blank slate and the words just flow.

Long story short I was as outlandish as it sounds sent here with a message and a mission but I am not great at explaining things when the spirit takes over sometimes and the level of which he took over was different and strong it went against my personality but I still didn't take the wheel even though I was tempted.

The point was to be a spar to change how things work here to bring others to the wonderful glorious truth I discovered with him and this morning as I wept for Christian chat my eyes were closed and I said to him that if I could that if it were possible even for just a moment for a second that I could somehow let everyone there feel the connection all that he and I have that it would even for the most hardened people for e mere moment show them the truth of his heart just one heart beat only a single heart beat was all I wanted I even begged him for it.

My prayers never really do much I can pray for someone or for something and for the most part nothing happens or it just met with not yet or no very rarely ever yes this power of prayer I have always believed in but never seen it for myself.
This one this prayer for this heartbeat it is perhaps if I was allowed just one answer to be yes this would be it.

But look at the fruits, what change happened? things pretty much are the same as they always are we were able to reach a few people and for that alone I am grateful it wasn't vain
But the kingdom of God I keep telling everyone he is calling us all to a whole other level with him a position in Christ and note position. The deeper things of God the hidden truths the wonders that go beyond what we originally thought the very heart of the Lord himself.

The truth what everyone claims to know what everyone searches for I sought after it and I found it and the truth is it goes far beyond what we call truth there is a reason the wonder of God is called wonder it is far deeper than we ever imagined and when you discover this truth he is different you and him have a whole other relationship you are as I called it activated you are changed and you can feel it all the time it never leaves it is as if it is possible to be born again more than once not revival but that is the best way I can explain it.