Is it immoral (offensive to God) to limited immigration?

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Veteran Confronts Texas National Guard for Ignoring Gov. Abbott’s Order to Stop Illegal Alien Invasion (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-order-to-stop-illegal-alien-invasion-video/

Shroyer released video of armed federal agents protecting illegal aliens as they invade the US. Owen pointed out the obvious hypocrisy. The armed federal agents were sent to border to protect illegals entering our country.

An epic video exclusively captured by Infowars showed a U.S. veteran confronting the Texas National Guard for failing to enforce Gov. Greg Abbott’s (R-Texas) orders to stop the flow of illegal immigrants.
 
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seed_time_harvest

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Patrick66 said:
What does God say about immigrants?

“When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not wrong him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt” (Lev. 19:33-34).

Exodus 22:21 ESV
“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.

Numbers 15:15-16 ESV
For the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you, a statute forever throughout your generations. You and the sojourner shall be alike before the Lord. One law and one rule shall be for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you.”

Of course, Heaven and God's kingdom-to-come have entry requirements.

Is Israel justified to limit who can emigrate there? Are Israel's Jews obligated to become a minority in the only Jewish nation in the world?

As an American and as a Christian I believe that the U.S. SHOULD welcome ALL who want to come on one condition; that they pledge their agreement that they will respect and abide by the U.S. Constitution rather than, for example, Sharia law or some other belief system.

As a Christian, what are your thoughts, please?
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@2ndTimeIsTheCharm Why do you disagree with the OP?
 
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There's a commercial package that broadcasts from time to time called, Jesus, he gets us.

It claims Jesus was woke, pro-lgbtq, and a refugee.

Open borders are obviously immoral. We have an influx of gang members, like MS13, cartel members, sex trafficking, Chinese nationals , and an increase in Phentynal trafficking.


We forget, Heaven has a gate and a vetting process. There are no illegals in Heaven.


It isn't about lawful entry into America. The issue is illegal immigration. It is an invasion.
 
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ButterflyJones said:
The issue is illegal immigration.
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Will Jesus agree with your view when you stand before him?

I think that Jesus wants us to welcome our brothers and sisters and to love them as if they were a part of our family.

I encourage you to read the following.

Matthew 31-46 esv
The Final Judgment
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
I'm surprised that a Christian would dislike or disagree with your post when used scripture.
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Me too, especially in direct disobedience to what God commands us to do.

I'm not saying that God demands that we permit ALL people to come to the U.S. For instance, if one is a Muslim that believes in Sharia Law and in throwing gay people off of rooftops, I don't believe it would be immoral for us to turn that person away just as Heaven also has standards for entry.
 
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mailmandan said:
The Biden regime has an agenda for this ILLEGAL immigration invasion and it's not about caring for strangers. Check the communist playbook on the global reset. In the mean time, Biden will keep pushing 'white supremacy' as a means to divide and conquer.
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Joe Biden claims to be a man of God while having lived a life of extreme corruption, serial lying, and engaging in all sorts of depravity such as taking showers with his young daughter and, undoubtedly, numerous visits to Epstein Island. His day is coming when he will stand before Jesus and will have to answer for the horrible things that he has done to so many MILLIONS of people. I'm glad I'm not him.

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Even Jesus said that he came not to do his own will but the will of the Father. I don't know about the rest of you, but I believe that I should also try to do the will of the Father.

John 6:38 esv
38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.
 
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Patrick66 said:
Me too, especially in direct disobedience to what God commands us to do.

I'm not saying that God demands that we permit ALL people to come to the U.S. For instance, if one is a Muslim that believes in Sharia Law and in throwing gay people off of rooftops, I don't believe it would be immoral for us to turn that person away just as Heaven also has standards for entry.
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have you seen any of the videos of what is happening at the border??

'cause it looks like a tidal wave of people??

where will they all live? or work?

and as far as " what would Jesus do?," Heaven does not have a open door policy where any and everyone can come in.
 
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gb9 said:
have you seen any of the videos of what is happening at the border??

'cause it looks like a tidal wave of people??

where will they all live? or work?

and as far as " what would Jesus do?," Heaven does not have a open door policy where any and everyone can come in.
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I'm not making an argument that the Biden Regime is properly handling the border situation.

I'm simply asking if Jesus agrees with turning away our brothers and sisters from coming here. I've provided scriptural evidence that, clearly, the answer is NO, Jesus does NOT agree.

With that said, you must certainly discern whether you should follow God or make your own path. Most people, including Christians, choose the latter.

Matthew 7:21-23 esv
I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
 
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ButterflyJones

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Patrick66 said:
Will Jesus agree with your view when you stand before him?

I think that Jesus wants us to welcome our brothers and sisters and to love them as if they were a part of our family.

I encourage you to read the following.

Matthew 31-46 esv
The Final Judgment
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
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I'll wait and see.
 
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Patrick66 said:
Most of the immigrants are from South America, Mexico, and central America and most of those believe in Jesus.
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Except for the drug dealers, human traffickers, gang members, and pedophiles.
 
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Seeing fellow Christians utterly rejecting scripture used to surprise me. I've learned over the years that most Christians follow their own path, no matter what the scriptures say.
 
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