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Dino246

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Feelings? None. Thoughts? That there is a dark agenda behind the push to normalize it.
 

Noel25

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It’s evil. God made us the way He wants us to be. To turn away from that, is rejecting His sovereignty.
 
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It’s evil. God made us the way He wants us to be. To turn away from that, is rejecting His sovereignty.
Exactly, but since He made some people conjoined twins, he made some mentally challenged, others he made with six fingers, with large heads, with cancer, , intersex, hermaphrodites, people born with their heart to the right, He made others be born without a foot, etc, etc, it could be as well that He made some people be born transgender.

In the old times, mentally ill patients including those with mental incapacities, were said to have a demon. Maybe it was true but God calls us to treat each other with love and acceptance.

Everyone is guilty of rejecting his sovereignty. When we have just an angry thought, we reject His sovereignty, When we lust, when we desire, when we think we are better than the next person. Even when we debate who is morally right and who is morally wrong. Just debating morality itself is a sin because when we do we have committed the sin of judging the other person. I admit, I get drawn into that myself. I just did here yesterday and today.

The thing is no one is perfect, we are all sinners. But God made us exactly how he wants us to be, we all have a purpose in His Kingdom. It just so happens that some may be White, or Black or Latino or Asian, or born with their heart in the right side, or without a brain (there was a girl who was born without one she lasted 2 years) with Cancer, with six toes or fingers, conjoined, mentally challenged or super smart, without a hand , without a foot, and why not some are also born LGBT, and transgender.

God did make All of us in His image, after all.

We all do need to repent, every day, on an individual basis because we all sin every day.
 

Artios1

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Exactly, but since He made some people conjoined twins, he made some mentally challenged, others he made with six fingers, with large heads, with cancer, , intersex, hermaphrodites, people born with their heart to the right, He made others be born without a foot, etc, etc, it could be as well that He made some people be born transgender.

That is not Gods doing ….well….not our God.

It is the doing of the god of this world.



2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
 
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That is not Gods doing ….well….not our God.

It is the doing of the god of this world.



2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Maybe...but people born those ways suffer a lot. We don't want to be born this way. We did not choose to. Then we have some people who point at us, people who are sinners as well.

I've tried seeing myself as a man but it never lasted because it just doesn't stick.

I gave my life to the Lord at age 14, way after I first identified as a girl which was as a toddler. All this time I was very happy as a person until all this recent backlash from the Bud Light ad which has made me wonder if I will be saved for being something I was born as.
A lot of people say acting as a sinner opens doors to other sins: hear me out: this was clearly not the case with me. I was 3 when I first experienced transgenderism I was a child with a white heart. I was a church going kid when I first experienced depression. I was one week removed from my church (because my family had moved from one country to the other and we had to work her eon Sundays, not because I stopped going to church) when I discovered I liked boys.

I did not do anything that opened doors to other sins. The doors just opened by themselves. Being young and dumb, I went in in the bisexuality and other sexual sins case, But I got out of that. When God wanted me to, He took me out.

Ive also tried getting out of this one. Maybe God doesnt want me to get out of it yet. I dont know but if it happens it will be in His time.

Also the fact you brought that scripture up, and that you said ots the doing of the god of this world means that you recognize there might be a biological factor to all this. We cant be blamed for being born like that. Maybe we could be blamed for not trying to correct it but I have tried to. I have worn male clothes all my life, my parents made me so because I was born in the 70s, and I grew more comfortable in male clothing occasionally I wear a dress (which BTW men have worn for centuries-or at least garments which look like them- and these days women wear pants also) but my clothing has never made a difference as far as how I saw self.

So there might be some biologic traits there.

I walk to the car, I get in the car, I go shop, to the movies, to the pool, to church, I see myself as a woman. I have tried to but seemingly can't help it. I was taught in church that what is impossible to human is only possible to God. Maybe this and LGB feelings are one of those things?

But the Bible says if we dont repent we'll go to Hell. I repent every night and ask Him to forgive me. Do you see the paradox I live daily? Im to the point of almost falling into depression again because of all of this.

Also...wait what you said about the god of this world contradicts our belief that our God is the one true God. There are no other Gods but ours. What you mean is deity. The Devil is a deity-thats what my pastor told me once- but I think thats what you meant, my apologies for the correction.
 

Lynx

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Maybe...but people born those ways suffer a lot. We don't want to be born this way. We did not choose to. Then we have some people who point at us, people who are sinners as well.

I've tried seeing myself as a man but it never lasted because it just doesn't stick.

I gave my life to the Lord at age 14, way after I first identified as a girl which was as a toddler. All this time I was very happy as a person until all this recent backlash from the Bud Light ad which has made me wonder if I will be saved for being something I was born as.
A lot of people say acting as a sinner opens doors to other sins: hear me out: this was clearly not the case with me. I was 3 when I first experienced transgenderism I was a child with a white heart. I was a church going kid when I first experienced depression. I was one week removed from my church (because my family had moved from one country to the other and we had to work her eon Sundays, not because I stopped going to church) when I discovered I liked boys.

I did not do anything that opened doors to other sins. The doors just opened by themselves. Being young and dumb, I went in in the bisexuality and other sexual sins case, But I got out of that. When God wanted me to, He took me out.

Ive also tried getting out of this one. Maybe God doesnt want me to get out of it yet. I dont know but if it happens it will be in His time.

Also the fact you brought that scripture up, and that you said ots the doing of the god of this world means that you recognize there might be a biological factor to all this. We cant be blamed for being born like that. Maybe we could be blamed for not trying to correct it but I have tried to. I have worn male clothes all my life, my parents made me so because I was born in the 70s, and I grew more comfortable in male clothing occasionally I wear a dress (which BTW men have worn for centuries-or at least garments which look like them- and these days women wear pants also) but my clothing has never made a difference as far as how I saw self.

So there might be some biologic traits there.

I walk to the car, I get in the car, I go shop, to the movies, to the pool, to church, I see myself as a woman. I have tried to but seemingly can't help it. I was taught in church that what is impossible to human is only possible to God. Maybe this and LGB feelings are one of those things?

But the Bible says if we dont repent we'll go to Hell. I repent every night and ask Him to forgive me. Do you see the paradox I live daily? Im to the point of almost falling into depression again because of all of this.

Also...wait what you said about the god of this world contradicts our belief that our God is the one true God. There are no other Gods but ours. What you mean is deity. The Devil is a deity-thats what my pastor told me once- but I think thats what you meant, my apologies for the correction.
Ooooh, this oughta be good!

*Lynx goes off to pop some popcorn and find a good tree branch from which to watch the show.
 

Lanolin

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when you are born again God will put things right that were wrong before

I think being transgender is unsettling for most people...I dont know really why it happens but its not something that will go away if swept under the rug or ignored. We live in a fallen world and things are messed up.

Jesus treated people as people, as whole human beings regardless of gender so, I think everyone has to look beyond gender to see someones soul which is not confined to gender as it is on earth, somehow.

liking or preferring girls or boys seems neither here nor there, thats more of a flesh thing. Flesh and spirit seem opposed to each other...christians really need to go beyond gender and see others how God sees them not flesh and blood. I hope am making sense.

People put too much store in outward appearance and clothing, and both male and females are guilty of that, the first clothes after adam and eve sewed fig leaves were Gods making coats out of skins and Im sure that whatver clothing he made was fit for both I dont think it was ever, women must wear one thing and men another but whatver fit and was comfortable at the time.

I mean does anybody know why men wear ties, I mean what purpose do they really serve? Women can wear ties too but maybe they are a throwback to the old days where slaves had leashes. I dunno.
 

PennEd

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Ooooh, this oughta be good!

*Lynx goes off to pop some popcorn and find a good tree branch from which to watch the show.
He's been banned quicker than your microwave dinged!
 

JohnDB

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Feelings?
The exact same feelings that I have when looking at a football bat.
 

Lanolin

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usually people post on CC single forum because they are trolling for dates...not because they have anything necessarily spiritual to discuss.
 

Lynx

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He's been banned quicker than your microwave dinged!
Feh. I never get any fun these days.

Oh well. I guess all that's left is the conspiracy channel or the BDF soap operas. Never anything good on. At least not for long.
 

Susanna

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Feh. I never get any fun these days.

Oh well. I guess all that's left is the conspiracy channel or the BDF soap operas. Never anything good on. At least not for long.
You should join the discussions on those forums…gets boring just debating the same old people lol.
 
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when you are born again God will put things right that were wrong before

I think being transgender is unsettling for most people...I dont know really why it happens but its not something that will go away if swept under the rug or ignored. We live in a fallen world and things are messed up.

Jesus treated people as people, as whole human beings regardless of gender so, I think everyone has to look beyond gender to see someones soul which is not confined to gender as it is on earth, somehow.

liking or preferring girls or boys seems neither here nor there, thats more of a flesh thing. Flesh and spirit seem opposed to each other...christians really need to go beyond gender and see others how God sees them not flesh and blood. I hope am making sense.

People put too much store in outward appearance and clothing, and both male and females are guilty of that, the first clothes after adam and eve sewed fig leaves were Gods making coats out of skins and Im sure that whatver clothing he made was fit for both I dont think it was ever, women must wear one thing and men another but whatver fit and was comfortable at the time.

I mean does anybody know why men wear ties, I mean what purpose do they really serve? Women can wear ties too but maybe they are a throwback to the old days where slaves had leashes. I dunno.
I used to think it was unsettling for most, but everyday it seems it’s becoming more and more normal. It scares me that people are moving further and further away from Christ without seeing any danger in doing so. I know mu soul is prepared and I am doing everything I can daily to be stronger and stronger. I witness so many people that are non believers go about their lives and it seriously freaks me out! I want to yell, “WAKE UP!”
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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What is everyone’s feelings on transgender?
I think true transgender people are really rare, unfortunately it is a fad now, teenagers think it is cool but is is so wrong. Some parents even do transition their child sometimes when they are only a few years old... sad. The majority of those who go through reassignment surgery regret it and want it reversed with the dangers that it represents. Some die or are so depressed, they commit suicide, It is wrong for a doctors or surgeons to push for this but as in every profession some are there to make money. I had a niece who almost transtionned, she was pushed to do so by the school specialist, psychiatrist even after one visit, and was prescribes hormonal therapy. Fortunately she did not go through the process and now lives a normal life and wants to get married.

Oh well we are in the end times in this world we live in now this is considered almost normal. Wrong is now acceptable and good is bad.

Blessings brother.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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, It is wrong for a doctors or surgeons to push for this but as in every profession some are there to make money. I had a niece who almost transtionned, she was pushed to do so by the school specialist, psychiatrist even after one visit, and was prescribes hormonal therapy. Fortunately she did not go through the process and now lives a normal life and wants to get married.

Oh well we are in the end times in this world we live in now this is considered almost normal. Wrong is now acceptable and good is bad.

Blessings brother.
Was the "school specialist" a guidance counselor?