Flat earth debunked.

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He's an example of the quality of the STEM education our children are receiving today. He really needs to forget this garbage that he spouts, and get back to elementary school and start over, probably around kindergarten.
And yet if you can refute Flat Earth, you fail to do so, instead resorting to insults which are entirely inaccurate. I suspect you are suffering from a touch of cognitive dissonance.
 

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A sketch of someone, who lives on a flat earth.

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Sorry it's not to scale.
 

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The unveiling of the flat earth model in 2045.

Drum roll please.....
 

Zandar

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So. If the moon is full and it's midnight, why doesn't the earth eclipse the moon?
 

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So. If the moon is full and it's midnight, why doesn't the earth eclipse the moon?
Shhh… don’t ask the questions that debunk FE theory… you’ll bring the entertainment to an end. ;)
 

Zandar

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I like this place because i get to argue with real people instead of those boring ol youtube shills.
 

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all they ever want to talk about is gravity and trees
 

kinda

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So. If the moon is full and it's midnight, why doesn't the earth eclipse the moon?

This is heliocentric view point, which I don't agree with, but borrow much of it.



https://www.space.com/62-earths-moon-phases-monthly-lunar-cycles-infographic.html

I'm guessing your question is really about, how is it possible in a heliocentric model, rather than a flat earth model. Flat earth is a basket case, so let's skip over that, since no one can figure it out, or wants to.

I think your question is valid, to be honest. The sun in the heliocentric model is suppose to be 93 million miles away.




I would suppose the answer in a heliocentric model would be, even though sun is really far away, the light from the sun is large enough to hit the moon front.

I think there are some flaws to this answer, especially coming from a Concave Hollow Earth perspective, but I will try to respect the threads topic. Feel free to look at my concave hollow earth thread for a different answer. :) If possible, maybe someone who understands heliocentric science better, can answer. I sorta just figure things out as I go. lol

 

kinda

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Love Tesla and haven't found one thing I disagree with. If that quote is really from Tesla, he just said, I believe in the Concave Hollow Earth. Well, at least in my mind.

There supposedly a pendulum that many believe moves by the the earth's spin, but it malfunctions on an eclipse. So, there goes that theory....Possibly. :)
 

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thanks for the input kinda. my point i was making was, if things are as science says it is, why isnt there an eclipse every month. the earth passes between the two supposedly. instead we have a full moon every month.

the point is we are being lied to. and if so what else is 'science' lying about and why?
 

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thanks for the input kinda. my point i was making was, if things are as science says it is, why isnt there an eclipse every month. the earth passes between the two supposedly. instead we have a full moon every month.

the point is we are being lied to. and if so what else is 'science' lying about and why?
I can speculate, but I'm really not a Heliocentric believer. I would suppose since there are seasons, the sun would be positioned at different angles, and only certain angles make the magic happen with the moon. I was looking at this recently, not sure why you didn't do a google search.

Your either a science skeptic, or a closet flat earther. That's just a guess. In any event, I like the discussion, so don't mind the dialogue.

I think for many in the science community, they need an answer that isn't Biblical, so they stick to a projection, and fill in what works, in their train of thought. Evolution is their answer for Creation, that sort of thing.

Maybe many don't believe their lying, they believe a certain way, especially if it's outside of the Biblical framework. Just because someone believes something different, doesn't mean they are intentionally lying to you. Many people are taught and believe what their professors taught them.

I remember a math class in college and out of the blue, the professor encouraged the class not to believe the Bible. It was totally at left field. It had nothing to do with the subject matter. In any event, this is what secular universities teach. My brother went to a university and he told me a professor said, the Bible isn't true. If you finish with college, more than likely you don't believe the Bible.

Now if your in the hard core sciences, this is probably driven in even harder. And if you say, you believe in the Bible, you are laughed to scorn...More than likely. So, when someone rises up out of the ranks in the science world, they teach, what they were taught, and probably believe it. To say, they are intentionally lying to you may not be entirely accurate, but maybe they believe it.
 

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I can speculate, but I'm really not a Heliocentric believer. I would suppose since there are seasons, the sun would be positioned at different angles, and only certain angles make the magic happen with the moon. I was looking at this recently, not sure why you didn't do a google search.

Your either a science skeptic, or a closet flat earther. That's just a guess. In any event, I like the discussion, so don't mind the dialogue.

I think for many in the science community, they need an answer that isn't Biblical, so they stick to a projection, and fill in what works, in their train of thought. Evolution is their answer for Creation, that sort of thing.

Maybe many don't believe their lying, they believe a certain way, especially if it's outside of the Biblical framework. Just because someone believes something different, doesn't mean they are intentionally lying to you. Many people are taught and believe what their professors taught them.

I remember a math class in college and out of the blue, the professor encouraged the class not to believe the Bible. It was totally at left field. It had nothing to do with the subject matter. In any event, this is what secular universities teach. My brother went to a university and he told me a professor said, the Bible isn't true. If you finish with college, more than likely you don't believe the Bible.

Now if your in the hard core sciences, this is probably driven in even harder. And if you say, you believe in the Bible, you are laughed to scorn...More than likely. So, when someone rises up out of the ranks in the science world, they teach, what they were taught, and probably believe it. To say, they are intentionally lying to you may not be entirely accurate, but maybe they believe it.
The easiest explanation is that the earth is spherical but the moon is flat and sometimes the solar winds blow the moon sideways and you only get a solar line instead of a solar eclipse.
 

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The easiest explanation is that the earth is spherical but the moon is flat and sometimes the solar winds blow the moon sideways and you only get a solar line instead of a solar eclipse.
Oh yeah, why didn't I think of that? I will solar wind you Cameron! lol


 

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It can be seen from about 35,000 feet.
Since the curvature would be seen at the horizon, how far from the horizon would someone be at 35,000 feet to see curvature?

Passengers can only see a very small segment of the curve.
If passengers can only see a very small segment of the curve, how do they know it is a curve?

If the human eye can detect curvature in such a small field of view, why can the human eye not see a much greater curve over a much wider field of view a lot closer to the ground? (i.e. - on a beach looking out at a 150-180 degree wide field of view - from as far as you can see to the left to as far as you can see to the right - a very long continuous ocean/horizon line)
 

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Since the curvature would be seen at the horizon, how far from the horizon would someone be at 35,000 feet to see curvature?


If passengers can only see a very small segment of the curve, how do they know it is a curve?

If the human eye can detect curvature in such a small field of view, why can the human eye not see a much greater curve over a much wider field of view a lot closer to the ground? (i.e. - on a beach looking out at a 150-180 degree wide field of view - from as far as you can see to the left to as far as you can see to the right - a very long continuous ocean/horizon line)
Very simple. The human eye is not good enough. The curvature is 200 mm (8") in 1.6 km (1 mile). Look down a long straight road sometime. There is no such thing as a dead flat road, but you will not be able to see anything but very large humps or depressions.
 

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Very simple. The human eye is not good enough. The curvature is 200 mm (8") in 1.6 km (1 mile). Look down a long straight road sometime. There is no such thing as a dead flat road, but you will not be able to see anything but very large humps or depressions.
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