In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

[Grace911]

Why on earth would you think that the "Days" of Genesis are literal 24 hour days?

John 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

 

[Grace911]

My personal studies shows the 6000th year ends in year 2029. Just shows those that do a diligent study comes up very close to each other

Can you share how your personal studies shows the 6000th year ends in 2029? In that study is your 2029 the rapture or the end of the 6th millennial day?

 

[Wansvic]

Nobody that I know if is disputing that.

That is your understanding of it.... it still doesn't fit with God telling man and woman (created at the same time) on the 6th day to be fruitful and multiply.
You want to understand it as "zooming in"..... what if those verses are the beginning of the story of the "sons of God" that are chronicled in the Bible as we know it?

This doesn't match what he told Adam and Eve, is it? He said you can eat of all of them..... except this one.

I did not write the quote in the post. It is a quote from the article I linked in the post. It makes points taken specifically from the word. Please take a look at it, I think you will find the content compelling.

https://answersingenesis.org/biology/plants/planting-confusion/

 

[Wansvic]

um..... how so?

I believe my post explains your question. You may want to take a look at it again. If not, no problem.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Why on earth would you think that the "Days" of Genesis are literal 24 hour days?

כִּ֣י שֵֽׁשֶׁת־יָמִים֩ עָשָׂ֨ה יְהֹוָ֜ה אֶת־הַשָּׁמַ֣יִם וְאֶת־הָאָ֗רֶץ אֶת־הַיָּם֙ וְאֶת־כׇּל־אֲשֶׁר־בָּ֔ם וַיָּ֖נַח בַּיּ֣וֹם הַשְּׁבִיעִ֑י עַל־כֵּ֗ן בֵּרַ֧ךְ יְהֹוָ֛ה אֶת־י֥וֹם הַשַּׁבָּ֖ת וַֽיְקַדְּשֵֽׁהוּ׃ {ס}

For in six days God made heaven and earth and sea—and all that is in them—and then rested on the seventh day; therefore God blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.

 

[hornetguy]

Are you referring to a day being like a thousand years? So in the case of a Jubilee cycle being 49 years and the 50th year is also year #1 of the next Jubilee cycle. Having also provided the 45 proofs of documentation when the sabbatical and jubilee years are, we would have to conclude that 20 Jubilee cycles are 49 x 20 = 980 years. So it is not always true that the Bible speaks literally but at times it speaks figuratively .

Remember that Adam was to die the same day that he ate of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? The Bible tells us Adam died at age 930 years old. So if day #1 is 980 years, Adam did die in the same day he ate of it.

You're speaking Swahili to me.... I don't know what a Jubilee cycle is.... numerology is of little interest to me.
I am not calling a day a thousand years. I think that scripture is mis-used frequently.... to me it is simply saying that time to God is not anything like time is for us. We are stuck with the physical world, while God is outside that timeframe.

 

[hornetguy]

I believe my post explains your question. You may want to take a look at it again. If not, no problem.

I did read your post. I'm asking you to clarify that point..... how would Cain marrying outside of Adam's family violate scripture?
If you don't want to, or can't clarify, no problem.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

My personal studies shows the 6000th year ends in year 2029. Just shows those that do a diligent study comes up very close to each other

So, in your Timeline, is Tribulation years 22 thru 29, or 29 thru 36?

 

[DJT_47]

The interesting thing to he considered is it wasn't until day 4 that the sun and moon were created and set in the heavens meaning the 24 hour day didn't come into being until day 4. So, how long were days 1, 2, and 3? A day is as a thousand years to the Lord as the scriptures say.

Gen 1:14

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

 

[tourist]

Exodus 20:11 for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.

Exodus 31:11 It is a sign for ever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.’”

I believe that too.

 

[Omegatime]

So, in your Timeline, is Tribulation years 22 thru 29, or 29 thru 36?

Probably shouldnt have mention that because it is complicated. Will only give a short version. The time for the Tribulation is 7 years and the trib has not started yet so it is in future. Im going to be a date sitter so Im going to get stoned here.

The prophet Daniel is the key. From the time the antichrist makes his covenant with many to the Blessed day ( Dan 12:12 )is the 1335 days leaving 1185 days left of the Tribulation for a full 7 years. Only time that fits is the covenant made on Feast Trumpets and ends on Pentecost 1335 days later ( Blessed Day). Only certain years will produce this result.

Now, Lord's timing of his coming not the same as set for the antichrist. As the church age has a resurrection/rapture coming so do those inside the tribulation. On this Blessed day which is Pentecost the 1000 year reign of Christ begins and why the sheep/goats are judged by works and not grace. The bowl judgements are inside the 1000 year reign of Christ and few will survive. On this Blessed day another resurrection/rapure happens for the trib saints. The corresponding scripture is Rev 14:15, There is no resurrection at end of the 7 years but the sheep/goat judgement determines who enters the kingdom in the flesh to repopuate the earth.

In both resurrections we meet the Lord in the air and the same in the trib as the earth is reaped, Lord returns to the earth at end of the tribulation only. This is only the highlights.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Probably shouldnt have mention that because it is complicated. Will only give a short version. The time for the Tribulation is 7 years and the trib has not started yet so it is in future. Im going to be a date sitter so Im going to get stoned here.

The prophet Daniel is the key. From the time the antichrist makes his covenant with many to the Blessed day ( Dan 12:12 )is the 1335 days leaving 1185 days left of the Tribulation for a full 7 years. Only time that fits is the covenant made on Feast Trumpets and ends on Pentecost 1335 days later ( Blessed Day). Only certain years will produce this result.

Now, Lord's timing of his coming not the same as set for the antichrist. As the church age has a resurrection/rapture coming so do those inside the tribulation. On this Blessed day which is Pentecost the 1000 year reign of Christ begins and why the sheep/goats are judged by works and not grace. The bowl judgements are inside the 1000 year reign of Christ and few will survive. On this Blessed day another resurrection/rapure happens for the trib saints. The corresponding scripture is Rev 14:15, There is no resurrection at end of the 7 years but the sheep/goat judgement determines who enters the kingdom in the flesh to repopuate the earth.

In both resurrections we meet the Lord in the air and the same in the trib as the earth is reaped, Lord returns to the earth at end of the tribulation only. This is only the highlights.

The Jubilee Theory?

Interesting!

I've studied this a bit.

Not enough to know all what to think about it yet.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Something about actual Lineage, not accounted for for some reason, but 50 Jubilees. It was really interesting. The person spoke in easy to hear voice but so much was said I'm shocked I remember that much. Like 3 years ago I think I heard this.

 

[Wansvic]

I did read your post. I'm asking you to clarify that point..... how would Cain marrying outside of Adam's family violate scripture?
If you don't want to, or can't clarify, no problem.

Sin entered the world through the disobedience of Adam and Eve. (Rom. 5:12) As such, anyone created prior to them would not need a Savior because they would not carry the stain of sin. That would contradict the word that states Jesus died for the sins of all mankind. (1 John 2:2)

In addition, scripture confirms Adam was the first man. (1 Cor. 15:45)

 

[Fundaamental]

What did God create the earth from.

I think he created the earth out of building blocks

And quite possibly those building blocks where 13 billion years old 🙂

 

[Truth01]

Carbon dating like other dating methods has its major flaws. In order to interpret carbon dates you have to assume the earth has not experienced any drastic changes during the time period your measurement is within. High pressure can throw of carbon dates by hundreds of millions of years and more. As Christian's we believe there was once a flood. The weight of such flood water could have created enough pressure to throw dates of only short periods into hundreds of millions of years. Atheists do not believe there was a flood so do not consider this.

Carbon dating is not the only dating method. There are several others. Zirconium Crystal's are found in granite and are used for dating as well. Zirconium crystal dating works by way that when a zirconium crystal breaks down it releases helium. By measuring the amount of helium surrounding the Crystal's it is possible to estimate how old the crystal is. The findings from this dating method is that all zirconium crCrystal's came into existence between 6000 and 9000 years ago at the same time and in their different states of degradation, then they started decomposing from there.

 

[Truth01]

Some examples of carbon dating not making sense;
Columns. Archaeological columns are where layers of sediment collect on top of each other over time. Each sediment traps life forms that existed during the period it was being laid down and sometimes fossilizes them. According to evolution the lowest bars should have unicellular organisms and as you go up the bars animals should become more complex, however fully formed animals are found in every bar. Additionally some animals are upright and for example the lower part of the animal is in one bar and the upper part is in the bar above that. So the animals foot would be hundreds of years older than its head.

 

[Truth01]

According to science it should not be possible to recover cells from specimens over 80000 years old. A few years ago they managed to recover cells from a 250 million year old Tyranosaurus rex. This gave rise to the question as to whether the tyranosaurus rex was in fact as old as they thought. Not long after they managed to recover cells from a herbivor, I think brontosaurus, that was about 460 million years old. Then they managed to recover cells from another herbivore, I think stegosaurus, that was over 500 million years old.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

What did God create the earth from.

I think he created the earth out of building blocks

And quite possibly those building blocks where 13 billion years old 🙂

We know in Genesis, when Adam sinned, God cursed the ground/earth.
Peter tells us the Earth will be purified of all Sins and curses by Fire before New Jerusalem arrives.

How do you know you are not dating the Effects of Sin, not an Earth, had Adam not sinned, would be as it was the day it was Spoken into Existence?

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Adam did die in the same day he ate of it.

Correction: Adam dies SPIRITUALLY as soon as he threw God under the bus, and sided with satan. The 980 years he lived AFTER that are unimportant.