Is it possible that Adam and the devil (satan, serpent, others) are the same person?

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Cameron143

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Good night I reckon, what did I walk into this time??
Looks like a case of mistaken identity. Get your deerstalker hat and magnifying glass and join in.
Later we are going to Mem's to find Waldo.
 

Mem

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Looks like a case of mistaken identity. Get your deerstalker hat and magnifying glass and join in.
Later we are going to Mem's to find Waldo.
The refreshments are chilling.

 

Bob-Carabbio

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Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?
And just when you KNOW that it can't get any more ridiculous -

It does.
 

ResidentAlien

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Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?
LOL, you're way off. I don't know who you've been listening to but I'd advise running, not walking.
 

selahsays

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Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?
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Nope. The serpent is Satan.

Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The "old serpent" in the garden was none other than Satan himself—not disguised as a snake, but the creep is a "snake" in the figurative sense.

Revelation 20 tells us who that serpent was.
Rev. 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
The apostle Paul also tells us:
2 Cor. 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
The Greek word for "serpent" is ophis, which means "an artful, malicious person; (figuratively a snake).
Strong's Concordance
ophis: a snake​
Original Word: ὄφις, εως, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: ophis
Phonetic Spelling: (of'-is)
Definition: a snake
Usage: a serpent, snake; used of the devil or Satan.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. word
Definition
a snake
NASB Translation
serpent (6), serpents (6), snake (2).

Satan was beautiful and charismatic and charming, truly a glorious "angel of light" (2 Cor. 11:14):
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 

selahsays

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Nope, @RALEIGH1_W_W

The serpent is Satan.

Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The "old serpent" in the garden was none other than Satan himself—not disguised as a snake, but the creep is a "snake" in the figurative sense.

Revelation 20 tells us who that serpent was.
Rev. 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

The apostle Paul also tells us:
2 Cor. 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.


The Greek word for "serpent" is ophis, which means "an artful, malicious person; (figuratively a snake).
Strong's Concordance
ophis: a snake
Original Word: ὄφις, εως, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: ophis
Phonetic Spelling: (of'-is)
Definition: a snake
Usage: a serpent, snake; used of the devil or Satan.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. word
Definition
a snake
NASB Translation
serpent (6), serpents (6), snake (2).

Satan was beautiful and charismatic and charming, truly a glorious "angel of light" (2 Cor. 11:14):
2 Cor. 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 

Fundaamental

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Nope, @RALEIGH1_W_W

The serpent is Satan.

Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The "old serpent" in the garden was none other than Satan himself—not disguised as a snake, but the creep is a "snake" in the figurative sense.

Revelation 20 tells us who that serpent was.
Rev. 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

The apostle Paul also tells us:
2 Cor. 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.


The Greek word for "serpent" is ophis, which means "an artful, malicious person; (figuratively a snake).
Strong's Concordance
ophis: a snake
Original Word: ὄφις, εως, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: ophis
Phonetic Spelling: (of'-is)
Definition: a snake
Usage: a serpent, snake; used of the devil or Satan.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. word
Definition
a snake
NASB Translation
serpent (6), serpents (6), snake (2).

Satan was beautiful and charismatic and charming, truly a glorious "angel of light" (2 Cor. 11:14):
2 Cor. 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
then you must be saying Jesus was telling us to be as wise as Satan



Mathew 10.16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
 

Fundaamental

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And who is this dragon

Psalm 18

In my distress I called to the LORD; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him, into his ears.
7 The earth trembled and quaked, and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry.
8 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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No, its not a possibility. One only has to read the rest of scripture to see that.
 

BeeBlessed

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And who is this dragon

Psalm 18

In my distress I called to the LORD; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him, into his ears.
7 The earth trembled and quaked, and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry.
8 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.
This is not a dragon. This psalm is about the consuming fire of the LORD…. Not to be feared by those who love Him.

Psalm !8: 13-19

13 The Lord thundered from heaven,
And the Most High uttered His voice,
Hailstones and coals of fire.
14 He sent out His arrows and scattered the foe,
Lightnings in abundance, and He vanquished them.
15 Then the channels of the sea were seen,
The foundations of the world were uncovered
At Your rebuke, O Lord,
At the blast of the breath of Your nostrils.
16 He sent from above, He took me;
He drew me out of many waters.
17 He delivered me from my strong enemy,
From those who hated me,
For they were too strong for me.
18 They confronted me in the day of my calamity,
But the Lord was my support.
19 He also brought me out into a broad place;
He delivered me because He delighted in me.
 

BeeBlessed

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then you must be saying Jesus was telling us to be as wise as Satan



Mathew 10.16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
Yes, because we are in the midst of ”wolves,” often in sheeps’ clothing, we must be even wiser than that “than old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world” (Revelation 12:9), lest we ourselves be deceived.
 

Fundaamental

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This is not a dragon. This psalm is about the consuming fire of the LORD…. Not to be feared by those who love Him.

Psalm !8: 13-19

13 The Lord thundered from heaven,
And the Most High uttered His voice,
Hailstones and coals of fire.
14 He sent out His arrows and scattered the foe,
Lightnings in abundance, and He vanquished them.
15 Then the channels of the sea were seen,
The foundations of the world were uncovered
At Your rebuke, O Lord,
At the blast of the breath of Your nostrils.
16 He sent from above, He took me;
He drew me out of many waters.
17 He delivered me from my strong enemy,
From those who hated me,
For they were too strong for me.
18 They confronted me in the day of my calamity,
But the Lord was my support.
19 He also brought me out into a broad place;
He delivered me because He delighted in me.
Psalm 18

In my distress I called to the LORD; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him, into his ears.
7 The earth trembled and quaked, and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry.
8 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.


This is describing a dragon

Smoke coming from the nostrils then flames coming out of the mouth.

Mathew 10.16

Tells you to be as wise as a serpent.

Here is two understanding of a dragon and a serpent

But your saying the serpent in the garden is satan base on another understanding.

I'm saying you can't do that 😊
 

selahsays

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And who is this dragon

Psalm 18

In my distress I called to the LORD; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him, into his ears.
7 The earth trembled and quaked, and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry.
8 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.
Not a “dragon.” This is God’s wrath at the 7th trump.
 

Fundaamental

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Trust in the lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding 😊
 

Mem

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And then there's the brood of vipers who can't say anything good because their hearts are filled with evil.
 

Fundaamental

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And then there's the brood of vipers who can't say anything good because their hearts are filled with evil.
I think this thread was about the serpents not vampires.

What evil people need is blood from the lamb.

But they go looking for blood else where.

A spiritual gust in the wind isn't enough 😊.

Until blood has been drawn out of a stone.