Does the Bible support the idea of a spinning ball earth flying through space, or is that a Satanic, Masonic lie?

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with a story line presentation like he's doing, makes me wonder if he thinks the blue print to his home is FAKE!

even a blueprint is a FORMULA!

one that is solved and true and can be PROVEN...he lives in the house, correct?
 

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Netflix has (or maybe did have, not sure if it is still there) a documentary on flat earthers called
Behind The Curve (<= imdb link), from 2018. I watched about half of it a while back, and was a
little perplexed at first because it began by presenting it as if it were a valid belief system, but
the further you get into it, the more they show how ridiculous the theories are, and those who
hold to such beliefs cannot in any way prove through experimentation any of their assertions.
In fact, as flat Earth advocates carry out experiments to test the hypothesis that the Earth is flat,
the results confirm that the Earth is a globe, and so were discarded by them. Still the #'s grow.
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Also Quoting Dr. Rowbotham, “On the shore near Waterloo, a few miles to the north of Liverpool, a good telescope was fixed, at an elevation of 6 feet above the water. It was directed to a large steamer, just leaving the River Mersey, and sailing out to Dublin. Gradually the mast-head of the receding vessel came nearer to the horizon, until, at length, after more than four hours had elapsed, it disappeared. The ordinary rate of sailing of the Dublin steamers was fully eight miles an hour; so that the vessel would be, at least, thirty-two miles distant when the mast-head came to the horizon. The 6 feet of elevation of the telescope would require three miles to be deducted for convexity, which would leave twenty-nine miles, the square of which, multiplied by 8 inches, gives 560 feet; deducting 80 feet for the height of the main-mast, and we find that, according to the doctrine of rotundity, the mast-head of the outward bound steamer should have been 480 feet below the horizon. Many other experiments of this kind have been made upon sea-going steamers, and always with results entirely incompatible with the theory that the earth is a globe.”
 

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All Mssr @RaceRunner will do is ignore the facts and post more boldfaced lying memes.
Mssr Gary will applaud, and Mssr Moses will put red X's on every post that tells the truth.

What qualifies this as "Bible Discussion"???

@CS1 can we please move this trash back to "conspiracy" where it belongs? it's frankly embarrassing & offensive to exist on this site at all.
I did not even look at this post until I was notified you had mentioned me in it. IF you say this thread is bad, you are a person I respect. and will ask Admin to look at it. I am not able to remove threads anymore :)
 

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If the Earth were actually a big ball 25,000 miles in circumference, the horizon would be noticeably curved even at sea-level, and everything on or approaching the horizon would appear to tilt backwards slightly from your perspective. Distant buildings along the horizon would all look like leaning towers of Piza falling away from the observer. A hot-air balloon taking off then drifting steadily away from you, on a ball-Earth would slowly and constantly appear to lean back more and more the farther away it flew, the bottom of the basket coming gradually into view as the top of the balloon disappears from sight. In reality, however, buildings, balloons, trees, people, anything and everything at right angles to the ground/horizon remains so regardless the distance or height of the observer.
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Show your maths to support your claims.
 

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Dr. Rowbotham conducted several other experiments using telescopes, spirit levels, sextants and “theodolites,” special precision instruments used for measuring angles in horizontal or vertical planes. By positioning them at equal heights aimed at each other successively he proved over and over the Earth to be perfectly flat for miles without a single inch of curvature. His findings caused quite a stir in the scientific community and thanks to 30 years of his efforts, the shape of the Earth became a hot topic of debate around the turn of the nineteenth century.
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he presents the problem formula only he can grasp, story problems, like you tell to little children.

joe had a dime and bought a penny worth of candy, how much is left?

this is his IQ level!
 

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HERE IS THE MATHEMATICAL FORMULA FOR THE HORIZONTAL HORIZON.
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see, all numbers and lines and some words telling a story.

no mathematical formula.
IN THIS PHOTO THERE IS NO EARTH CURVATURE FOR 273.4 MILES.

NO CURVATURE 273.4 MILES X NO CURVATURE 273.4 MILES = NO CURVATURE.

THE MATHEMATICAL FORMULA FOR NO CURVATURE IS 0 X 0 = 0
 
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i love working with triangles and that is what should be used for what RR is presenting.

look at how similar my own mathematics are to what he should be using. mine is using trigonomics to discover the Right Angle, specifically sine - co-sine, tangent.



i will use this formula for simple things like this:

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everyone who has ever changed a TIRE recognizes this pattern?

but to figure out a perfect 360 Circle, Trig is it.


to figure the earth, Trig is another great tool.
 

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i love working with triangles and that is what should be used for what RR is presenting.

look at how similar my own mathematics are to what he should be using. mine is using trigonomics to discover the Right Angle, specifically sine - co-sine, tangent.



i will use this formula for simple things like this:

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everyone who has ever changed a TIRE recognizes this pattern?

but to figure out a perfect 360 Circle, Trig is it.


to figure the earth, Trig is another great tool.
THE MATHEMATICAL FORMULA FOR NO CURVATURE IS 0 X 0 = 0
 
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i will use this formula for simple things like this:

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i will help you see the Bolt Hole Pattern and make it come to life.

THIS IS HOW YOU PROVE SOMETHING, RR!



look at the bolt hole pattern blueprint
there's 6 bolt holes
now look at the very middle of that circle or bolt hole pattern.
now, take the TRIANGLE FORMULA in top picture and put the tip of the Corner that is written as the BIG C
put that point of the Triangle at CENTER POINT and slowly rotate it a full circle.
the Tip from Corner B should hit every point of the Bolt Hole


side note:
Corner A is how far you will go from center vertical and horizontal...where Corner B is always how big the entire Circle is [4 inches, 10 inches, 20 inches whatever]




but this is how you are able to PROVE what is Presented is TRUTH, because if taught correctly, EVERYONE can do it!
 

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i will help you see the Bolt Hole Pattern and make it come to life.

THIS IS HOW YOU PROVE SOMETHING, RR!



look at the bolt hole pattern blueprint
there's 6
now look at the very middle of that circle or bolt hole pattern.
now, take the TRIANGLE FORMULA in top picture and put the tip of the Corner that is written as the BIG C
put that point of the Triangle at CENTER POINT and slowly rotate it a full circle.
the Tip from Corner B should hit every point of the Bolt Hole


side note:
Corner A is how far you will go from center vertical and horizontal...where Corner B is always how big the entire Circle is [4 inches, 10 inches, 20 inches whatever]



but this is how you are able to PROVE what is Presented is TRUTH, because if taught correctly, EVERYONE can do it!
THE MATHEMATICAL FORMULA FOR NO CURVATURE IS 0 X 0 = 0
 

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Once again I ask, why is this not in the Conspiracy Forum (where it belongs) instead of the Bible Forum.
Because the thread title question is a legitimate Bible study topic. It actually belongs in the Bible Discussion Forum.
What qualifies this as "Bible Discussion"???
Sorry you missed the memo...

Read the thread title again and honestly ask yourself if "Does the Bible support the Ball Earth model?" is a valid Bible Discussion topic.

I did not even look at this post until I was notified you had mentioned me in it. IF you say this thread is bad, you are a person I respect. and will ask Admin to look at it. I am not able to remove threads anymore :)
I will respect whatever @RoboOp and @Oncefallen decide to do - leave it, move it, delete it, whatever.

It would certainly be best if folks would keep the discussion close to the thread topic intent - biblical support for the Ball Earth model.

This is my interpretation of the thread title:
The supposition of the thread title is that 'Ball Earth' is a satanic masonic lie UNLESS there is [real true actual] biblical support for it.
If no one can offer any biblical proof/support for the Ball Earth model - then, I think the thread topic has most definitely served its purpose very well!

I am not suggesting a mandate for the Bible to contain any such proof/support; however, since all-or-most will agree that the 'picture' that the Bible "paints" leans very heavily in the Flat Earth model direction, it stands to reason that it is the 'default'/'normal' place to start from. Hence, the thread topic intent is to show that - unless actual biblical support for the Ball Earth model can be shown - it is then-and-thereby resolved-by-default that there is none.
 

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Sorry you missed the memo...

Read the thread title again and honestly ask yourself if "Does the Bible support the Ball Earth model?" is a valid Bible Discussion topic.


I will respect whatever @RoboOp and @Oncefallen decide to do - leave it, move it, delete it, whatever.

It would certainly be best if folks would keep the discussion close to the thread topic intent - biblical support for the Ball Earth model.

This is my interpretation of the thread title:


If no one can offer any biblical proof/support for the Ball Earth model - then, I think the thread topic has most definitely served its purpose very well!

I am not suggesting a mandate for the Bible to contain any such proof/support; however, since all-or-most will agree that the 'picture' that the Bible "paints" leans very heavily in the Flat Earth model direction, it stands to reason that it is the 'default'/'normal' place to start from. Hence, the thread topic intent is to show that - unless actual biblical support for the Ball Earth model can be shown - it is then-and-thereby resolved-by-default that there is none.
 
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Welcome to CC...

The world of Genesis 1 was indeed "pre-fallen" but the world we live in, post-Genesis 3, is a fallen world. The devil doesn't need to delude us into believing that.
For that no.. but there are other controversial issues such as the age of the earth, whether the earth is the center of the universe, countless books filled with worldly knowledge.. our senses are bombarded with lies from the evil one constantly.. but we have come to know the Truth through God's Holy Spirit.. Amen

P.S.: Thanks for the welcome.
 
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