Did man land on the moon?

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Did man land on the moon?


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Zandar

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Its not film, its a microwave signal sent to earth. I worked with this very Equipment in College. All the Parts from this Communications program was donated to my college after Apollo was cancelled. BTW who resurrected this "Thread From The Dead"?
Do you realize how much power it takes for a ham operator to just bounce a mores code off the moon much less send a television feed? And that poor guy operating the camera must still be stuck up there.
 

ZNP

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Do you realize how much power it takes for a ham operator to just bounce a mores code off the moon much less send a television feed? And that poor guy operating the camera must still be stuck up there.
I think what they are saying is we didn't have the technology to put a mirror on the moon remotely but we did have the technology to beam a live TV signal from the moon remotely.
 

GaryA

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When was the last time you saw sunlight coming in at that kind of angle - and, everything was totally pitch black dark beyond some point within 100-200 feet away...???

Why the sudden straight-line-edge-of-darkness zone?

(Hint: You should be able to see the surface of the moon "fade into the background" for quite a bit more distance than what is seen in this picture.)

Hollywood sound stage! ;)
 

ZNP

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When was the last time you saw sunlight coming in at that kind of angle - and, everything was totally pitch black dark beyond some point within 100-200 feet away...???

Why the sudden straight-line-edge-of-darkness zone?

(Hint: You should be able to see the surface of the moon "fade into the background" for quite a bit more distance than what is seen in this picture.)

Hollywood sound stage! ;)
look at how heavy those boots are, make sure you take them off before getting back into the lunar lander.
 

GaryA

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Could you try to ask a dumber question? I still have a little tolerance left.
That is not a dumb question - it is perfectly valid. Fuel tanks take up space. So does the engine. So do other things. When you add it all up - does that 'craft' have enough space to house all of those necessary things - arranged in a way that makes sense according to the size and shape of it?
 

GaryA

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You kids can't accept that your grandparents were smart enough to put a man on the moon.
Sorry, brother - but - the truth is - that the grandparents cannot accept that they were "hoodwinked" into believing a big lie.

Face the facts. Your grandparents were a lot smarter than you give them credit for. I was there. It happened. And that's a fact!
In a lot of ways, I may in fact agree with this generalization about the folks during those years - they deserve a lot of credit for [certain things]. However, about this, you are wrong. Albeit, some of those 'grandparents' were "smart" enough to perpetrate the lie upon the whole world.

Just so you understand my perspective - those 'grandparents' were my 'parents'. I am old enough to not be one of the 'kids' in your statement.
 

GaryA

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remember also back then, there was no fake news, no starwars, no deep fakes like today, and there were no reson to fake it if you can really do it, and the holy spirit will lead you into all truth,
There has always been fake news. It has not always been as prevalent or vivid as it is today; nonetheless, it has always existed. Satan was the first fake news reporter in the Garden of Eden. Eve was the first to fall for it.
 

resto

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Do you realize how much power it takes for a ham operator to just bounce a mores code off the moon much less send a television feed? And that poor guy operating the camera must still be stuck up there.
I am a Ham operator. Im an Electrical Engineer. I have 34 years of field experience. I talk around this planet on 5 watts. Let me teach you. P=IxR. E/R=I E/I=R. Basic Math. So how much power do I need to project my voice around this planet. Do the math. I know Power. I know Jesus. Now answer. I worked with Nasa. All my peers do too.
 

resto

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Do you realize how much power it takes for a ham operator to just bounce a mores code off the moon much less send a television feed? And that poor guy operating the camera must still be stuck up there.[/QUOTEI
Dah....Its not power its sign wave length. Doode. Everything in this universe is a Frequency. Like a voice. The spoken Word, Jesus, created everything you see. Tesla do you even Physic or Thermodynamic?
 

resto

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Let me make it simple. Your cell phone is 12 volts. The FCC limits radio power to 5 watts. Lets do Math. 12 divided by five is....aliens and pudding. NO...2,4. Thats 2.4 Amps. That will not kill you. Its the Frequency that will kill you. Pulse. Your eyes operate at 18 pulses per second. That determines what you see. I can piggyback that frequency by inserting information in that waveform and make you see anything I want. And I can do it with a car Battery. We call it Nonlethal Weaponry. I worked in this field. Reality is bigger than your Ego. Oh My God Its Zandar
 

PennEd

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You have not a shred of evidence to make your allegations.
This statement can only be described as a lie.

There has been a vast amount of evidence given. It is incumbent on the person claiming the achievement to verify.
And the proof that we went is awful.

Just a FEW, (there are MANY more) questions that haven't been answered.

1. Why does NASA several times, on video, now say we MUST solve the problem of going through the Van Allen Radiation Belts BEFORE leaving Lower Earth Orbit. when we supposedly did it 50 yrs ago?

2. NASA says the reason we haven't gone back to the moon or elsewhere in half a century is because "we lost the technology, and it's difficult to regain it". Is this ridiculous answer plausible to you?

3. What did the Space Shuttle program accomplish, and why didn't the Space Shuttle land on the moon, or even leave Earth's lower orbit?

I can pose other questions, but how about focusing on just those, instead of simply insulting others and calling them fools. Name-calling and obfuscation are the tactics of the godless left when they have no answers.
 

ZNP

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Just a FEW, (there are MANY more) questions that haven't been answered.
Technically they have answered all questions with a universal answer.

"We are smarter than you so shut up, you are simply a tin foil hat conspiracist".

You know as well as anyone that they worship science, it is the new religion. Maybe Fauci lied, look how hard it was for some to see that, and yet anyone who is anti vax is still a tin foil hat conspiracist.

But this, surely they didn't lie to us about this! Their religion is built on this as the cornerstone.

Maybe they lied about JFK, some even realize they lied about 911, they lied about aluminum tubes, they even lied about yellow cake! Who doesn't like yellow cake? Yet they turn it into a reason to annihilate an entire region of the world.
 

ZNP

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The problem with the radiation is not that it would kill people, there is an easy fix for that. You could have two astronauts instead of 3 and you could then add 100 lbs of lead as a shield to each without any problem. No the problem is the entire spaceship needs to be shielded because the radiation can destroy the electronics in the ship. That would be a lot more than 200 lbs of lead and so you would need a lot more fuel and that also has weight so you will need a lot more fuel to lift the added fuel. Therefore you may need another booster rocket which in turn adds a lot of weight and you will need a lot more fuel for that.

You will also need a lot of lead for the moon lander and therefore a lot more fuel, etc., etc.

Also those spacesuits aren't going to cut it.

However, you could build this spacecraft in low earth orbit with each space shuttle bringing up 50,000 pounds it seems theoretically possible to build a spaceship that can go to the moon from the international space station.

But here is the problem with that, if they tell people they are doing that they admit to the lie they have already told.
 
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There is no logic in keeping the stars invisible to enhance a hoaxed landing. That's devoid of any common sense.
Of course there is. Because NASA would get the positions of the stars wrong (or miss them out completely), and simple trigonometry by dedicated and mathematically competent "conspiracy theorists" would subsequently reveal the hoax. That's why NASA left the stars out of the photographs.

NASA had enough trouble with the shadows, and couldn't even get those right. Lol.

People claiming this embarrassing BS need to explain why our enemies didn't call us out. That's not something to dismiss -- it's an indirect historical proof.
The US and the Russians were controlled at the top by the same people. Gagarin's space flight is also full of inconsistencies. But the Russians didn't reveal the US hoax, and the US didn't reveal the Russian hoax. The governments of the world have been playing this game a lot longer than con-vid-19.

Again, and this was not addressed also, the dust kicks could not be faked like that in 1969. It was lifted and fell back down like water. Everyone kicking soil or sand knows that the finer particles are lifted and they resemble smoke floating off. But, in the moon shots, the dust acted like water. Why? No atmosphere. Common-flippin-sense.
Lol. It was filmed in a studio. They could've used anything they wanted for the dust to make it appear to have the properties that would be most convincing.

That anyone still argues against this today is frightening. But, some breathe conspiracies. They need them. We're all going to starve in 6 months! That was a year and a half ago. JFK's murder was a conspiracy!!! Only it was some communist nut.
That anyone can still not realise the moon landing was a hoax is frightening. But I suppose the covid saga really showed how stupid people can be. The CIA have admitted to JFK's assassination, so probably a bad example for you to use, given it proves the so-called "conspiracy theorists" have been right since before you were even born, and you still haven't figured it out yet.

Tired of ignorance in the body of Christ.
One thing we can agree on. How can Christians understand heavenly things, if they are so easily deceived by the lies of the world and the devil? And so quick to attack other Christians questioning the ones making the extraordinary claims without the extraordinary evidence to support it.

Our enemy-in-chief does not need us to throw him ammunition to make the world hate us.
The world loves NASA and the liars. It demonises those who call out the lies and liars as "conspiracy theorists". That should tell you something.
 

Fundaamental

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Of course there is. Because NASA would get the positions of the stars wrong (or miss them out completely), and simple trigonometry by dedicated and mathematically competent "conspiracy theorists" would subsequently reveal the hoax. That's why NASA left the stars out of the photographs.

NASA had enough trouble with the shadows, and couldn't even get those right. Lol.

The US and the Russians were controlled at the top by the same people. Gagarin's space flight is also full of inconsistencies. But the Russians didn't reveal the US hoax, and the US didn't reveal the Russian hoax. The governments of the world have been playing this game a lot longer than con-vid-19.

Lol. It was filmed in a studio. They could've used anything they wanted for the dust to make it appear to have the properties that would be most convincing.

That anyone can still not realise the moon landing was a hoax is frightening. But I suppose the covid saga really showed how stupid people can be. The CIA have admitted to JFK's assassination, so probably a bad example for you to use, given it proves the so-called "conspiracy theorists" have been right since before you were even born, and you still haven't figured it out yet.

One thing we can agree on. How can Christians understand heavenly things, if they are so easily deceived by the lies of the world and the devil? And so quick to attack other Christians questioning the ones making the extraordinary claims without the extraordinary evidence to support it.

The world loves NASA and the liars. It demonises those who call out the lies and liars as "conspiracy theorists". That should tell you something.
because the stars are not in a view in a picture proves nothing.

Even on clear nights on earth we don't always see the stars. It's depends on what part of orbit we are, or if where even concentrating our eye on that particular region of sky.


Or the fact that a flag is moving proves nothing.

The moon does have a very thin atmosphere so a bit of wind could be possible.

And the other reasoning that rockets or shuttles would melt flying through the earth atmosphere is nonsense, theese crafts are fitted with heat tiles.

And flown at an angle so that the heat shields at the front reflect the main part of the heat away from the the rest of the craft.

And all the videos of astronauts speak of future tense not something they've slipped up about lying.

Let's be honest Your main bias is, man going to moon proves the earth is a sphere,

It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest all of nasa would lie to the world over this matter , especially when many NASA Astronauts are Christian people.
 

Magenta

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Since you say you were “there” or in the industry, tell us what the point of
the space shuttle program was, and why they never left lower earth orbit?
How does this question make any sense given that @Billyd 's position is they did leave lower earth's orbit? .:oops::unsure:
 

Cameron143

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because the stars are not in a view in a picture proves nothing.

Even on clear nights on earth we don't always see the stars. It's depends on what part of orbit we are, or if where even concentrating our eye on that particular region of sky.


Or the fact that a flag is moving proves nothing.

The moon does have a very thin atmosphere so a bit of wind could be possible.

And the other reasoning that rockets or shuttles would melt flying through the earth atmosphere is nonsense, theese crafts are fitted with heat tiles.

And flown at an angle so that the heat shields at the front reflect the main part of the heat away from the the rest of the craft.

And all the videos of astronauts speak of future tense not something they've slipped up about lying.

Let's be honest Your main bias is, man going to moon proves the earth is a sphere,

It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest all of nasa would lie to the world over this matter , especially when many NASA Astronauts are Christian people.
Wind is produced by temperature variances. Hot air rises and cooler air flows to that point. Not sure how that would work with less atmosphere but the principle should be the same.