The Sound of Freedom Movie

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HeIsHere

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I brought up the fact that many do subscribe to conspiracy theories. But it's foolish indeed to try and have a rational discussion about it with such people.
Yes true but how does that tie into this movie, where is the theory?
 

HeIsHere

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You must be bored today and can't find anyone else to jaw with. Keep looking I'm sure you'll find someone.
I am not bored, I am trying to understand what you think is "theoretical" about this movie. Is Tim Ballard a liar, did he make it all up?

Anyway no worries I can my own research I always have and will continue to do so.
 

JohnDB

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I am not bored, I am trying to understand what you think is "theoretical" about this movie. Is Tim Ballard a liar, did he make it all up?

Anyway no worries I can my own research I always have and will continue to do so.
The "theoretical" part is that this drug therapy actually is efficacious. Not that wealthy people paid money for it or that people actually manufactured this drug or that these children were killed for their organs.
 

HeIsHere

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The "theoretical" part is that this drug therapy actually is efficacious. Not that wealthy people paid money for it or that people actually manufactured this drug or that these children were killed for their organs.
I will have to see the movie to put this in context, but thank you.
 

PennEd

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I brought up the fact that many do subscribe to conspiracy theories. But it's foolish indeed to try and have a rational discussion about it with such people.
You do understand that there is an entity that 24/7 365, CONSPIRES against you and I?

His name is Satan, and he hates us, and the whole world and world system is under his sway.

1 John 5:19
New King James Version

19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.

So it’s important to understand that there are all manner of conspiracies against people.
 

seoulsearch

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For anyone who might be interested in seeing the movie, I just watched a review from a Christian YouTuber who has a link for free tickets through Angel Studios:

https://www.angel.com/meme

I did look up the site but haven't applied for tickets yet so I don't know if it's working or still valid, but just thought I'd pass it on.
 

ResidentAlien

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Got around to watching it. Honestly, it's pretty boring. It deals with a problem that needs attention; I'm just not sure how well this movie does anything to actually help. It seems more like a self-serving bit of fiction on Tim Ballard's behalf; not unlike Jesus Revolution was for Greg Laurie. It's being promoted as a "true story"; but much of it is actually not true at all. For example, in the movie, Ballard gets funding from the US embassy in Columbia to finance his operations there. In reality the funding came from Glenn Beck.

It's very low budget and it shows.

I didn't detect any blatant QAnon conspiracies in the film. There is one part though that is suggestive. The Ballard character reads a newspaper report about a guy who was busted in Columbia for operating a pedophile club for high-paying, private members only. This gives him the idea to create a sting which uses the same thing as a ruse to trap child traffickers. QAnon claims there's a cabal of pedophiles running the world which has members from all the world's elite.

It's starting to be reported that Tim Ballard stepped down from O.U.R. shortly before the film's release. In all the interviews he's done since it's release he never once has mentioned this. I've been watching some of Ballard's interviews and to me he acts like a total conman. Time will tell I guess.
 

MichaelZ

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Well you are the first I have ever heard to call it boring. And it certainly did not come off as low budget to me or anyone else that saw it.

It was based on a true story but I am sure there was some dramatic license taken. The shooting at the end was probably one instance.
 

ResidentAlien

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Well you are the first I have ever heard to call it boring. And it certainly did not come off as low budget to me or anyone else that saw it.

It was based on a true story but I am sure there was some dramatic license taken. The shooting at the end was probably one instance.
It was based on Tim Ballard's version of the truth. You can't say something is based on a true story when the story it's supposedly based on isn't true.
 

ResidentAlien

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You could maybe say it's based on Tim Ballard's life and work; but it's not based on any true story.
 

Lynx

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Got around to watching it. Honestly, it's pretty boring. It deals with a problem that needs attention; I'm just not sure how well this movie does anything to actually help. It seems more like a self-serving bit of fiction on Tim Ballard's behalf; not unlike Jesus Revolution was for Greg Laurie. It's being promoted as a "true story"; but much of it is actually not true at all. For example, in the movie, Ballard gets funding from the US embassy in Columbia to finance his operations there. In reality the funding came from Glenn Beck.

It's very low budget and it shows.

I didn't detect any blatant QAnon conspiracies in the film. There is one part though that is suggestive. The Ballard character reads a newspaper report about a guy who was busted in Columbia for operating a pedophile club for high-paying, private members only. This gives him the idea to create a sting which uses the same thing as a ruse to trap child traffickers. QAnon claims there's a cabal of pedophiles running the world which has members from all the world's elite.

It's starting to be reported that Tim Ballard stepped down from O.U.R. shortly before the film's release. In all the interviews he's done since it's release he never once has mentioned this. I've been watching some of Ballard's interviews and to me he acts like a total conman. Time will tell I guess.
Sometimes it's fascinating to watch somebody bend over backward to justify hating an entire group of people.

Maybe you should get a hobby. Compiling a large confirmation bias to allow yourself to hate everything-Hollywood can't be healthy for you. The blood pressure cost alone, man...
 

Socreta93

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Sometimes it's fascinating to watch somebody bend over backward to justify hating an entire group of people.

Maybe you should get a hobby. Compiling a large confirmation bias to allow yourself to hate everything-Hollywood can't be healthy for you. The blood pressure cost alone, man...
Wouldn't people say the same about right wing people?
 

Lynx

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Wouldn't people say the same about right wing people?
Yeah, them too. They hate democrats and democrats hate republicans.

When the party's identity is more "I'm against THOSE people" then I can't have dealings with either of those spoiled brats.
 

JohnDB

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ukraine-orphanages-feeder_b_7344882

Just so people know....

Look,
Human trafficking including children is out of control. It's in EVERY nation but a few seem to specialize in it.

There are streets in Houston where children are walking the streets EVERY DAY looking for customers....some as young as 9.

The people who patronize children prostitutes are diverse....Basically in two groups. One are just thugs who don't care....but then there's the wealthy, respected pillars of the community that are judges, priests/pastors, teachers and etc. They are hidden but "trustworthy " that have inserted themselves into the positions for the purpose of getting access to children.

Sting operations that post up an ad selling 13 year old girls gets an average of 300 replies every hour.
 
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Gojira

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The star denies being part of Q-anon, but even if he has some sort of affiliation, Q-anon pales greatly as one spreading mis-information when compared to the giants CNN, ABC, CBS, …
The same sources who like to throw the Q-anon label onto us are the same ones who defend antifa. So, that should pretty much explain all of that.