In our firmament...where do asteroids come from?
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I thought calling animal names was not allowed. Do you even read your own posts.
But moles may be on to something living underground.
So, you can't even call someone a mole?!? What about the secret squirrel? I might need to goto one of those reeducation centers, to catch up with the latest government over reach laws. You think they have donuts for breakfast there?
Now your talking. Deep Underground Military Bases. You can get used missile silos for cheap on e-bay. We can start the new Christian Chat society there and reemerge after WWIII.
That's a really good idea. Are you sure you aren't wearing a tin foil hat?
And I hear they have some openings in re-education camps in China.
I will once my blue tin foil comes in.
I don't speak Mandarin, so might be better suited for someone else. Although, I do like Chinese food, and most of the stuff I buy is made from China, so maybe it's time to start learning. Might be helpful if China takes over the world.
That’s the lamest attempt at proving something I’ve seen on a long time. It’s also dead wrong. Do your homework: search out the etymology of the word.
This is what I said,
"Yes, there is no such thing as gravity.
The firmament is called the firmament because it's "FIRM." That's the proof.
That is what I have been told by a couple people that are into that theory."
Of course it's a wrong concept. It's ridiculous how some play those word games as if they prove anything.
Nevertheless, that's what I've been told by a few that hold to that belief.
I did Not say that I believed that dumb theory. I thought that was clear from the context.
Firmament is a separation .The curtain veil is is a firmament.I think when most people think firmament they think of the physical plane and other dimensions.
"In biblical cosmology, the firmament is a vast solid dome, created by God on the second day of creation, which divides the primal “waters” into upper and lower portions. The word is found in the King James Version, Tyndale, Douay-Rheims, and other early English translations of the Bible. Today it survives as a synonym for "heaven"."
Etymology[edit]
"In English, the word "firmament" is recorded as early as 1250, in the Middle English Story of Genesis and Exodus. It later appeared in the King James Bible. The same word is found in French and German Bible translations, all from Latin firmamentum (a firm object), used in the Vulgate (4th century).[1] This in turn is a calque of the Greek στερέωμᾰ (steréōma), also meaning a solid or firm structure (Greek στερεός = rigid), which appears in the Septuagint, the Greek translation made by Jewish scholars around 200 BCE."
"These words all translate the Biblical Hebrew word rāqīaʿ (רָקִ֫יעַ), used for example in Genesis 1.6, where it is contrasted with shamayim (שָׁמַיִם), translated as "heaven(s)" in Genesis 1.1. Rāqīaʿ derives from the root rqʿ (רָקַע), meaning "to beat or spread out thinly".[2][3] The Hebrew lexicographers Brown, Driver and Briggs gloss the noun with "extended surface, (solid) expanse (as if beaten out)" and distinguish two main uses: 1. "(flat) expanse (as if of ice), as base, support", and 2. "the vault of heaven, or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as solid and supporting 'waters' above it."[4] A related noun, riqquaʿ (רִקּוּעַ), found in Numbers 16.38 (Hebrew numbering 17.3), refers to the process of hammering metal into sheets.[4] Gerhard von Rad explains:"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firma...e firmament,English translations of the Bible.
Feel free to contact wikipedia, if you think they are in error. info-en
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Etymology[edit]
"In English, the word "firmament" is recorded as early as 1250, in the Middle English Story of Genesis and Exodus. It later appeared in the King James Bible. The same word is found in French and German Bible translations, all from Latin firmamentum (a firm object), used in the Vulgate (4th century).[1] This in turn is a calque of the Greek στερέωμᾰ (steréōma), also meaning a solid or firm structure (Greek στερεός = rigid), which appears in the Septuagint, the Greek translation made by Jewish scholars around 200 BCE."
"These words all translate the Biblical Hebrew word rāqīaʿ (רָקִ֫יעַ), used for example in Genesis 1.6, where it is contrasted with shamayim (שָׁמַיִם), translated as "heaven(s)" in Genesis 1.1. Rāqīaʿ derives from the root rqʿ (רָקַע), meaning "to beat or spread out thinly".[2][3] The Hebrew lexicographers Brown, Driver and Briggs gloss the noun with "extended surface, (solid) expanse (as if beaten out)" and distinguish two main uses: 1. "(flat) expanse (as if of ice), as base, support", and 2. "the vault of heaven, or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as solid and supporting 'waters' above it."[4] A related noun, riqquaʿ (רִקּוּעַ), found in Numbers 16.38 (Hebrew numbering 17.3), refers to the process of hammering metal into sheets.[4] Gerhard von Rad explains:"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firma...e firmament,English translations of the Bible.
Feel free to contact wikipedia, if you think they are in error. info-en
I think you understood what I meant with my previous comment on the firmament. I was quoting what I've heard others say they believe. I don't think the firmament is firm.
Since birds fly in the firmament, it seems clear to assume that it's another way of saying the sky.
Not unless the firmament/glass sky is at the 60 mile mark.
"Birds can literally fly at any height from a few inches (or centimeters) above the surface of the earth to over 30,000 feet. In fact, the greatest height a bird has reached that has been measured is 37,000 ft, when a Ruppell's vulture hit an airplane at that height in 1974."
So, about 7 miles is the highest that birds can fly.
https://birdfeederhub.com/how-high-...s can literally fly at,at that height in 1974.
"According to USA Today, the common cruising altitude for most commercial airplanes is between 33,000 and 42,000 feet, or between about six and nearly eight miles above sea level. "
https://www.travelandleisure.com/ai...Today, the,Mount Everest measures 29,029 feet.
Most commercial airline flights fly below the 10 mile mark.
If someone is gonna say, NASA flights. Well, check out the temperatures of those altitudes, that's why some don't believe that NASA has been that high.
(No, I'm not a flat earther)
"Birds can literally fly at any height from a few inches (or centimeters) above the surface of the earth to over 30,000 feet. In fact, the greatest height a bird has reached that has been measured is 37,000 ft, when a Ruppell's vulture hit an airplane at that height in 1974."
So, about 7 miles is the highest that birds can fly.
https://birdfeederhub.com/how-high-...s can literally fly at,at that height in 1974.
"According to USA Today, the common cruising altitude for most commercial airplanes is between 33,000 and 42,000 feet, or between about six and nearly eight miles above sea level. "
https://www.travelandleisure.com/ai...Today, the,Mount Everest measures 29,029 feet.
Most commercial airline flights fly below the 10 mile mark.
If someone is gonna say, NASA flights. Well, check out the temperatures of those altitudes, that's why some don't believe that NASA has been that high.
(No, I'm not a flat earther)
Now we're getting somewhere... D.E.W., and D.U.M.B., NASA, bunkers, 'they're turning the f' fogs g*y!'
That's interesting.
I just ran across this yesterday by coincidence. It was under reported. This was a rocket launch of ordinary people above the atmosphere/ firmament. The figures you provide are interesting and helpful here. I think these people went above the 200,000 foot mark. That altimeter read around 180,000+ feet approaching mach 2. They didn't show the altitude when it finally stopped. They broke the sound barrier, but not anything else. Check it out. The flight was pretty interesting considering astronauts are no longer featured.
You were right that they noted that the earth was not flat.
That's interesting.
I just ran across this yesterday by coincidence. It was under reported. This was a rocket launch of ordinary people above the atmosphere/ firmament. The figures you provide are interesting and helpful here. I think these people went above the 200,000 foot mark. That altimeter read around 180,000+ feet approaching mach 2. They didn't show the altitude when it finally stopped. They broke the sound barrier, but not anything else. Check it out. The flight was pretty interesting considering astronauts are no longer featured.
You were right that they noted that the earth was not flat.
200,000 feet is about 38 miles, I did state firmament was at the 60 mile mark, but giving those people a 20 mile cushion, so they don't become pancakes is smart. Trust me, they didn't go near the 60 mile mark, due to safety. Of course they didn't show the max altitude, because that would be to informative.
As far as the shape your seeing there, I believe it's being distorted due to human eye ability, and the firmament/space. Instead of floating around and acting giddy, they could of done some science. Maybe there weren't allowed to bring a high powered telescopes with them due to safety, but they brought video cameras. Maybe zooming in at the edge of the horizon would of been revealing, but hey, it makes for a feel good video, that promotes the Heliocentric model.
Hopefully my viewpoint is taken the wrong way, you have to be a detective, and think for yourself, or you will be easily manipulated.
I meant to say, isn't taken the wrong way.
I think I just proved the earth is flat. (Another joke. I don't believe the earth is flat.)
Also, the video didn't have a ton details. Calling them astronauts is hilarious though. The guy wore a space suit at the county fair, if you call that training to fly a spaceship, than maybe that is a really loose definition. lol
Very informative website for the event....Not!
https://www.moondao.com/dude-perfect
Here is the main site.
https://www.moondao.com/
They are calling themselves moondao, but they got up 40 miles above sea level. I'm not saying, it's fake, but there surely is missing some information for skeptics to sift through. Most will probably believe it without questioning anything, but at least give me some flight data, history of the space craft, and some technical aspects of the ship. Just believe it, don't question anything is probably what they want you to think.
I do have questions about this flight, but I think it's possible, but also think it's possible, it was faked. I mean what happens if the flight went wrong? Can you imagine the lawsuits? How would risk their life for a 10 minute flight? These guys? Maybe.
O.k., that about sums it up.
Very informative website for the event....Not!
https://www.moondao.com/dude-perfect
Here is the main site.
https://www.moondao.com/
They are calling themselves moondao, but they got up 40 miles above sea level. I'm not saying, it's fake, but there surely is missing some information for skeptics to sift through. Most will probably believe it without questioning anything, but at least give me some flight data, history of the space craft, and some technical aspects of the ship. Just believe it, don't question anything is probably what they want you to think.
I do have questions about this flight, but I think it's possible, but also think it's possible, it was faked. I mean what happens if the flight went wrong? Can you imagine the lawsuits? How would risk their life for a 10 minute flight? These guys? Maybe.
O.k., that about sums it up.
I was a little disappointed that they didn't show good lengthy observations from the windows. They gave a short snapshot from the time they left the ground compared to the rest of the story leading up to the launch. At least it's a non-NASA video of the global shape to put the debate to rest.