Psalm 27

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evyaniy

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Locoponydirtman said:
The church, God's people, who God used to build and maintain the church for generations has been wrong all along, and now you have arrived with new secret knowledge. Huh? Smells rotten to me.
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If the Psalms are the little book of Revelations 10 it could have been sealed all this time. It is not like the first time information in the Scriptures was sealed. They did not even understand the Passover while the real Passover Lamb was on the cross as they were preparing for their Passover meal and the days of unleavened Bread which was all about Him.

People had what they needed for Salvation. The Gospel was to believe in the Son for the forgiveness of sins and to receive Eternal Life. They did not have to understand His prayers in the Psalms to receive Salvation. But His prayers in the Psalms prove Who He is and that the Gospel is true beyond any doubt. Maybe it's time for those of His own who He was sent to, to finally get it.
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
The church, God's people, who God used to build and maintain the church for generations has been wrong all along, and now you have arrived with new secret knowledge. Huh? Smells rotten to me.
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gnosticism is alive and well, for sure.
 
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Those in the Holy Spirit have always seen Jesus Yeshua indicated by theProphets and the law, the Psalms fall into this.
 
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evyaniy

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JaumeJ said:
Those in the Holy Spirit have always seen Jesus Yeshua indicated by theProphets and the law, the Psalms fall into this.
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Thank you. Agreed. The writers of the New Testament and especially the writer of Hebrews certainly saw Him and His Father in the Psalms. He gave us a fair amount of instruction using the Psalms as his primary evidence of the Father and Son speaking to One Another to explain and prove the Gospel.
 
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evyaniy

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Psalm 119 being the Son's prayer for life because of His obedience to the law and His Father in offering His life as a Sacrifice for sin to save us, appears to have been saved for this time for some reason. Whatever that reason is He knows.

But again, he who watereth is nothing and maybe even an unprofitable servant. He knows that too. Everything is up to Him and His to make happen.
 
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JaumeJ said:
Those in the Holy Spirit have always seen Jesus Yeshua indicated by theProphets and the law, the Psalms fall into this.
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Yes but not by adding as this fellow is. He is abusing the scripture.
 
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evyaniy

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Locoponydirtman said:
Yes but not by adding as this fellow is. He is abusing the scripture.
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would writing a multi-volume Systematic Theology be more suitable than providing a few headings above verses to indicate Who may be speaking?

can we still color verses? please
You should see the Psalms in color.
 
Mem

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evyaniy said:
Man has a Psalm showing we break every commandment in the book from our hearts. we don't love YAH. we don't love our neighbor. David's sins show us it was not him speaking in the other Psalms. he committed murder and adultery and deception and coveting another man's wife and stole her and all the associated sins that accompany such behavior. Nothing against David specifically. we all have that nature at work in us naturally. You found a Psalm about us. yea for us. That also proves it is not David speaking in the other Psalms. Now go ahead and make excuses for David's uhhhh, indiscretions and then say the other Psalms are about David.

But of course you won't even admit to Psalm 119 being the Son's prayer for life because of His obedience to the law and His Father in offering His life to save us.

Also ignore what the writer of Hebrews showed us and taught us about the Psalms. Take it up with him. Is he wrong too?
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I wasn't looking for any explanation from you, although I certainly expected one would be forthcoming. I was only pointing out the discrepancies in your claims to any readers that might be interested. But then of course, you know all don't you?
 
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evyaniy

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I wasn't looking for any explanation from you, although I certainly expected one would be forthcoming. I was only pointing out the discrepancies in your claims to any readers that might be interested. But then of course, you know all don't you?
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Is Psalm 119 the Son's prayer for life and to be raised from the dead because of His obedience to the Law and His Father in offering His life to save us, as the Law required of Him?

You never directly answered the question in our previous discussion after a fair amount of work was done answering your questions. An answer would be appreciated and a kind word in thanks for the work, not an opportunistic jab at the work being presented here.
 
Mem

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evyaniy said:
Is Psalm 119 the Son's prayer for life and to be raised from the dead because of His obedience to the Law and His Father in offering His life to save us, as the Law required of Him?

You never directly answered the question in our previous discussion after a fair amount of work was done answering your questions. An answer would be appreciated and a kind word in thanks for the work, not an opportunistic jab at the work being presented here.
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Were you someone else in our previous discussions, I have a difficult time in keeping up of sock puppets?
 
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No one's got an answer for the Writer of Hebrews showing us the Father and Son speaking to each other in the Psalms. That gets ignored since it disproves and does not support your case. Sometimes what's not said says the most.
 
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Were you someone else in our previous discussions, I have a difficult time in keeping up of sock puppets?
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wow. thanks

so you won't answer the question. got it.
 
Mem

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Locoponydirtman said:
The church, God's people, who God used to build and maintain the church for generations has been wrong all along, and now you have arrived with new secret knowledge. Huh? Smells rotten to me.
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I woke this morning to a swarm of huge horse flies congregating in my window and immediately searched for the offending cause when my son, who just happened to stop by, spotted that they were coming in through a crack in the window. Fortunately, they were slow enough that we could eradicate all of them after sealing the fissure tightly up.
 
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evyaniy

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truthfully for the most part the condescension that is endured to present what is incredible revelation is understandable. There are other people reading these threads too and hopefully it is falling on some fertile soil. It is not my message. It is the truth of the Word that has to be shared as a responsibility. The veiled insults are not enjoyed but somewhat expected. What matters is that some will hear and read and study for themselves and share with others and be blessed in their faith as others come to faith in the Son.
 
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evyaniy said:
truthfully for the most part the condescension that is endured to present what is incredible revelation is understandable. There are other people reading these threads too and hopefully it is falling on some fertile soil. It is not my message. It is the truth of the Word that has to be shared as a responsibility. The veiled insults are not enjoyed but somewhat expected. What matters is that some will hear and read and study for themselves and share with others and be blessed in their faith as others come to faith in the Son.
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You're not saying anything new. Maybe it's new to you that's why you think no one else "gets it." The stuff you're saying about the Son and the Psalms is old news.
 
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evyaniy said:
Is Psalm 119 the Son's prayer for life and to be raised from the dead because of His obedience to the Law and His Father in offering His life to save us, as the Law required of Him?
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Dont forget that the Son also said that He would raise Himself, and the Bible says that the Holy Spirit also raised Him. So Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were all involved in the resurrection of Christ.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Dont forget that the Son also said that He would raise Himself, and the Bible says that the Holy Spirit also raised Him. So Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were all involved in the resurrection of Christ.
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With the Son doing the being raised part because of His obedience and faith.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
You're not saying anything new. Maybe it's new to you that's why you think no one else "gets it." The stuff you're saying about the Son and the Psalms is old news.
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Is Psalm 119 the Son's prayer for life and to be raised from the dead because of His obedience to the Law and His Father in offering His life to save us, as the Law required of Him?
 
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evyaniy said:
With the Son doing the being raised part because of His obedience and faith.
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What about the fact that He is God? Death had no power over the Son God, and He had the divine authority to raise Himself. He also predicted His resurrection long before it took place.
 
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