Saudi Arabia will push for two-state solution at upcoming peace talks at SDG Summit

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Jordan would have to give up something of significance for Israel parting the land (Which God will get angry for to put it lightly). Could they make temple mount concessions?

Will Saudi Arabia take custodial rights of the temple mount and allow Israel to build 3rd temple? This is all coming to afoot. Interesting times we're living in.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/saudi...tate-solution-for-normalization-blinken-says/
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Jordan would have to give up something of significance for Israel parting the land (Which God will get angry for to put it lightly). Could they make temple mount concessions?

Will Saudi Arabia take custodial rights of the temple mount and allow Israel to build 3rd temple? This is all coming to afoot. Interesting times we're living in.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/saudi...tate-solution-for-normalization-blinken-says/

Like I say, God's time clock to the end times started in 1948 when Israel became a nation. Keep your eyes on the middle east, God will keep His promises.
 
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The entire earth belongs to God, so do all the nations. Pagans are on a limited time land lease. That little spit of land along with all the lands will belong to the decendants of Abraham, which are the children of faith in Christ. God gave that little strip of land to Abraham for the sake of Christ. Now Christ has come and rules His kingdom which is not of this world, and we who believe and follow him are His nation scattered but when Christ desires will be gathered to Him, and He will purify this land with fire and then restore it.
So if the pagan nation state called israel splits in two or if it takes all of palestine, and Saudi Arabia matters not one fraction of a percent. Zionism is an idol and a destraction from Christ.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The entire earth belongs to God, so do all the nations. Pagans are on a limited time land lease. That little spit of land along with all the lands will belong to the decendants of Abraham, which are the children of faith in Christ. God gave that little strip of land to Abraham for the sake of Christ. Now Christ has come and rules His kingdom which is not of this world, and we who believe and follow him are His nation scattered but when Christ desires will be gathered to Him, and He will purify this land with fire and then restore it.
No, the land has been promised to the Jews and God will keep His promise.


So if the pagan nation state called israel splits in two or if it takes all of palestine, and Saudi Arabia matters not one fraction of a percent. Zionism is an idol and a destraction from Christ.
The land was given to the Jews, promised from generation to generation unconditionally to the Jews. When it comes to the land in Israel I have news for you, God is a Zionist. God will keep His promises to the Jews,or He won't keep His promise to you. Replacement theology is heresy.
 
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No, the land has been promised to the Jews and God will keep His promise.




The land was given to the Jews, promised from generation to generation unconditionally to the Jews. When it comes to the land in Israel I have news for you, God is a Zionist. God will keep His promises to the Jews,or He won't keep His promise to you. Replacement theology is heresy.
Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.3.9.NKJV
Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.3.9.NKJV
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.3.9.NKJV
Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.3.9.NKJV
Has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. The church doesn't replace the Jews. The land was promised to them in an unconditional covenant. He will fulfill it, or he is a liar.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. The church doesn't replace the Jews. The land was promised to them in an unconditional covenant. He will fulfill it, or he is a liar.
There is no replacement, it has always been about faith.
That covenant is with Abraham, to his descendants, which are and always have been those who walk in faith.
To replace the faithfull with pagans because blood line is replacement.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Im good with the borders being what they are, but what ever happens with that is what it is. Humans doing what they do.
 

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There is no replacement, it has always been about faith.
That covenant is with Abraham, to his descendants, which are and always have been those who walk in faith.
To replace the faithfull with pagans because blood line is replacement.
Yes. This is clearly explained in scripture.

These events will trigger a great falling away among the Zionists. Those who are able to repent will remain otherwise they will be undone by their biases: believing God has somehow lost or lied. This is much like those who thought Christ came to overthrow the Romans. He actually came to overthrow the power of the entire evil kingdom that ruled the world. When He died on the cross even those closest to Him were caught is despair. Yet, His sacrifice secured victory to all who would believe.

So, when Jews return to their animal sacrifices, an abomination to God, rejoice! These events were foretold. Let them give you rest in the times of the trouble.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Yes. This is clearly explained in scripture.

These events will trigger a great falling away among the Zionists. Those who are able to repent will remain otherwise they will be undone by their biases: believing God has somehow lost or lied. This is much like those who thought Christ came to overthrow the Romans. He actually came to overthrow the power of the entire evil kingdom that ruled the world. When He died on the cross even those closest to Him were caught is despair. Yet, His sacrifice secured victory to all who would believe.

So, when Jews return to their animal sacrifices, an abomination to God, rejoice! These events were foretold. Let them give you rest in the times of the trouble.
On this we agree
 

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Jordan would have to give up something of significance for Israel parting the land (Which God will get angry for to put it lightly). Could they make temple mount concessions?

Will Saudi Arabia take custodial rights of the temple mount and allow Israel to build 3rd temple? This is all coming to afoot. Interesting times we're living in.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/saudi...tate-solution-for-normalization-blinken-says/
God said He will gather the whole house of Israel, all 12 tribes, and bring them back to their land, and leave none of them in the nations anymore, and they will know the LORD their God from that time forward, and He will never hide His face from them again.

When the man of sin establishes peace in the Middle East, and the nations governments will be together to work for peace on earth it will pave the way for all Hebrews to go back to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it to happen, and the man of sin wants them all back on their land, but God means it for good towards the Hebrews.

It will be a 7 years peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians, Arabs, which the Palestinians will allow Israel to build their temple by their Mosque which the Bible says the outer court is given unto the Gentiles and the holy city shall they tread under foot for three and one half years the first half of half of the 7 years period.

Israel shall split Jerusalem with the Palestinians.

The battle of Armageddon is when the antichrist and the world go against Jerusalem and half of the city shall be taken, and when they get to the other half that is when Jesus steps in and saves the people who are Hebrews.

So the world will trample on the half of the Palestinians to get to the Hebrews and when they do they will be stopped by Jesus and He will defeat them by the glory that shall come forth from Him which their bodies shall melt off their bones which Jesus will destroy the antichrist will the brightness of His glory.

If Jerusalem was occupied by only Hebrews then God would not allow any of Jerusalem to be overtaken for He is saving the Hebrews, so the Palestinians must occupy the half the world runs over.

So there will be a peace treaty for 7 years, and Jerusalem shall be split in half.
 

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No, the land has been promised to the Jews and God will keep His promise.




The land was given to the Jews, promised from generation to generation unconditionally to the Jews. When it comes to the land in Israel I have news for you, God is a Zionist. God will keep His promises to the Jews,or He won't keep His promise to you. Replacement theology is heresy.
The promise is NOT unconditional? God tells em all over the Torah HEY if you misbehave you gonna get kicked out
 

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Some covenants are conditional, some are not. The land promise was unconditional.
Leviticus 18:28
So if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it spewed out the nations before you.

Not to mention the many exiles in the Bible, and probably even a hundred+ warnings about NOT being spewed out of the land for idolatry and other reasons.

So its conditional. The Bible says anyone who rejects Christ will be CUT OFF from the people. (Deut 18:18, quoted in the new testament by Peter iirc)

The time when Israel WILL inherit the land is when they turn to Christ in large numbers right before Jesus comes back.
 

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Leviticus 18:28
So if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it spewed out the nations before you.

Not to mention the many exiles in the Bible, and probably even a hundred+ warnings about NOT being spewed out of the land for idolatry and other reasons.

So its conditional. The Bible says anyone who rejects Christ will be CUT OFF from the people. (Deut 18:18, quoted in the new testament by Peter iirc)

The time when Israel WILL inherit the land is when they turn to Christ in large numbers right before Jesus comes back.
To what does Joshua 21:43 refer?
 

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Saudi Arabia is messing with the land God gave to Israel that is a big no no. In Joel 3:2 reads I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jeshoshapht for my people for my my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
 

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It means God gave all the land to Israel he promised. I agree with that verse. I was talking of the future when "All Israel shall be saved"
Not everyone believes this promise has been fulfilled.
 

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The Children of Israel, while they were in the wilderness, were disobedient, and by their disobedience Salvation was gained by the nations.

The Israel we see on our maps is not the Israel of Elohanu, God, not at alll. I have been there, and it bears no resemblance whatsoever to what all who believe are promised.. I know where one can find a ham and cheese sandwich there, in Tel Aviv.

There are now denominations of Israelites, unheard of in the first Israel. None of the Word according to Jews is followed there.

My Kibbutz was non-religious, and there are others so.

Some of the Israeli cults go out on the Sabbath and stones those whom they see as breaking it.

None of the above and none of a lot more will be in the totally peace-filled Israel to come.

No! The Israel we see today is plainly the staging grounds for the enemy to emerge.