Tell me if I have this right about your idea of what happens in heaven

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So according to some Christians and churches there will be no sex or showing affection in heaven. There will be male and female, but the genitals will not be used. We will eat and drink, so we can taste and feel, but no desire for physical attraction. Even though they have never seen heaven and we are told very little about it. They have already decided what you can and cannot do in heaven.
The "showing of affection" your off at least by a mile lol. Its hard to put into words. See we know we see through clouded glasses so to speak. So take all this and just wash off only that with sin has touched and now made perfect. Little things I really believe like say pictures will be there. Not everything here is sin. Only man would think after you die you play some harp in heaven.

The greatest things are yet to come and the journey? Oh praise GOD we have not even started yet. What you like and love here..you will there yet you finish what He called you to do. Some think they missed it or were never called. Oh He didn't forget the enemy just robbed you or you fell but be of good cheer what He started in this life will still happen in the age to come
 

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The "showing of affection" your off at least by a mile lol. Its hard to put into words. See we know we see through clouded glasses so to speak. So take all this and just wash off only that with sin has touched and now made perfect. Little things I really believe like say pictures will be there. Not everything here is sin. Only man would think after you die you play some harp in heaven.

The greatest things are yet to come and the journey? Oh praise GOD we have not even started yet. What you like and love here..you will there yet you finish what He called you to do. Some think they missed it or were never called. Oh He didn't forget the enemy just robbed you or you fell but be of good cheer what He started in this life will still happen in the age to come
''The "showing of affection" your off at least by a mile ",.......you want to give some examples?
 
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@JohnB what is your obsession with sexual topics? Is this all you think about? There’s nothing wrong with the topic but you seem to obsess over it. honestly it’s a bit concerning. How is the rest of your walk with God? How is your prayer life? Are you in discipleship and fellowship with other Christians daily? There is so much more to be revealed in heaven than our sexuality. I believe there will be something magnificent there with sexual intimacy to be experienced and we should talk about it but why is this something you keep coming back to? Can you allow it to be a mystery And wait in hopeful expectation?
 

JohnB

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@JohnB what is your obsession with sexual topics? Is this all you think about? There’s nothing wrong with the topic but you seem to obsess over it. honestly it’s a bit concerning. How is the rest of your walk with God? How is your prayer life? Are you in discipleship and fellowship with other Christians daily? There is so much more to be revealed in heaven than our sexuality. I believe there will be something magnificent there with sexual intimacy to be experienced and we should talk about it but why is this something you keep coming back to? Can you allow it to be a mystery And wait in hopeful expectation?
Because many Christians and churches avoid it and make it look like any sex is the worse sin. You have churches teach if a single person even thinks of sex they have sinned. They put fear into dating. They take scripture out of context and hammer singles with them. They think masterbation is a sin.....which it is not.
 

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Because many Christians and churches avoid it and make it look like any sex is the worse sin. You have churches teach if a single person even thinks of sex they have sinned. They put fear into dating. They take scripture out of context and hammer singles with them. They think masterbation is a sin.....which it is not.
Only in your mind.

You started like five Threads, and each one leads to sex in heaven. Or you bring up the false narrative " Christians think of sex is a sin, or a false narrative fear of dating. Then you go into the topic of Self-gratification> Bet you support the LGBTQ Book that a Pastor read at school Board meetings to prove it is inappropriate for Children. The problem is not that Children are afraid or adults having sex; it is the perversion of the world and the depravity of sin men and women do.

Just admit you have no self-control.



 

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Only in your mind.

You started like five Threads, and each one leads to sex in heaven. Or you bring up the false narrative " Christians think of sex is a sin, or a false narrative fear of dating. Then you go into the topic of Self-gratification> Bet you support the LGBTQ Book that a Pastor read at school Board meetings to prove it is inappropriate for Children. The problem is not that Children are afraid or adults having sex; it is the perversion of the world and the depravity of sin men and women do.

Just admit you have no self-control.



you do think sex is a bad, you wouldn't allow it in heaven. From Genesis 6 we do know angels had sexual desires. Many Christians think angels cannot procreate, yet the bible says nothing about angles not being able to procreate. Marriage was made for the earth, not heaven.
 

presidente

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So according to some Christians and churches there will be no sex or showing affection in heaven. There will be male and female, but the genitals will not be used. We will eat and drink, so we can taste and feel, but no desire for physical attraction. Even though they have never seen heaven and we are told very little about it. They have already decided what you can and cannot do in heaven.
What eschatology has believers being in heaven for a long time anyway? The sons of the resurrection will be like the angels of God in heaven.
 
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. They put fear into dating. They take scripture out of context and hammer singles with them. They think masterbation is a sin.....which it is not.
Because it is sin John. Sexual sin is no joke. It creates demonic soul ties that are outside the will of God with whoever your mind is engaged with in the fantasy or affair that Satan uses against us. We’re not in heaven yet. . As a man who has struggled with it I know where it leads me. It becomes a series of compromises and next thing you know your knee deep in either an affair ,addiction to pornography and chronic and even compulsive mastubation and this was happening to me even while being married The mind stops seeing Women for their true selves and starts seeing them as sexual objects. Been there, there was a time I thought every single woman my eyes met wanted to have sex with me and as it turned out my mind was being harassed by the evil one. Satan so often will not tempt with erroneous sins at first but actually leads us down into the erroneous transgressions one step at a time through compromise. There is the letter of the law, and the spirit of the law. If a kid was playing near a street that had a speed limit of 50 mph is it the moral thing to do continuing in at that speed or do you drive at a cautious and courteous speed to be able to react if said child were to dart out in front of you? You’re trying to approach this from technical morality or technical rule keeping standard of (well anything goes except intercourse) and spiritually speaking that isn’t true. We are married to God even if we are single and engaging in things like masturbation is actually being unfaithful to Him. We were given urges by our creator. We were created as sexual beings yes. It’s actually where we carry the image of our God but this is exactly why Satan attacks sexuality so hard with perversions because Satan hates God and what better to attack than mans sexuality. I’ve been down those roads and God saved me from my error. I was on the brink of losing a marriage because of my unwillingness to fight it. Not every urge sexually is from God. We still have an enemy who is a liar, thief,murderer, accuser and deceiver who’s speaking perverse things into our minds. It’s up to us to recognize it for what it is… an attack on our spiritual being and choose holiness rather than compromise. And it is a battle.
 

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you do think sex is a bad, you wouldn't allow it in heaven. From Genesis 6 we do know angels had sexual desires. Many Christians think angels cannot procreate, yet the bible says nothing about angles not being able to procreate. Marriage was made for the earth, not heaven.
FYI no one here that I have seen said sex is bad. only in your mind and where you currently reside.

Being you brought it up which I disagree Angels had sexual desires but for the sake of argument,

Was angels having sex a good thing or a bad thing from the Biblical perspective?


It was a bad thing Per Genesis chapter 6 if one holds to the interpretation. If angels could not control, the desire to have sexual relations with Humans and are spiritual beings cast out of heaven what are the chances you will have sex in heaven and be in right standing with God when Angels could not?

You are unbiblical and carnal-minded.
 

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So according to some Christians and churches there will be no sex or showing affection in heaven. There will be male and female, but the genitals will not be used. We will eat and drink, so we can taste and feel, but no desire for physical attraction. Even though they have never seen heaven and we are told very little about it. They have already decided what you can and cannot do in heaven.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Mat 22:28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

The only thing that separates a man and a woman is the flesh but the spirit, and soul, are the same.

When they put off the flesh and have a glorified body they are the same with no gender.

That is why Jesus said they do not marry, and are as the angels which does not mean they are an angel but they have no gender like the angels.

Angels always have masculine names because there is no gender, and they are greater than humans.

There is no sex in heaven for it is spiritual, and sex only applies to the physical.

The saints will be spiritual not physical.

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

When the saints are at the New Jerusalem they will remember nothing prior to that, and will not remember the earth, or anything associated with it.

You can be standing next to your wife and you will not know it is her for if you did then you would remember the earth, but you will remember nothing prior to the New Jerusalem same as the angels.

For people that think they will reunite with their husband or wife it will not happen.

It will be a place where sin has never been, and sin will never be.
 

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Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Mat 22:28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

The only thing that separates a man and a woman is the flesh but the spirit, and soul, are the same.

When they put off the flesh and have a glorified body they are the same with no gender.

That is why Jesus said they do not marry, and are as the angels which does not mean they are an angel but they have no gender like the angels.

Angels always have masculine names because there is no gender, and they are greater than humans.

There is no sex in heaven for it is spiritual, and sex only applies to the physical.

The saints will be spiritual not physical.

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

When the saints are at the New Jerusalem they will remember nothing prior to that, and will not remember the earth, or anything associated with it.

You can be standing next to your wife and you will not know it is her for if you did then you would remember the earth, but you will remember nothing prior to the New Jerusalem same as the angels.

For people that think they will reunite with their husband or wife it will not happen.

It will be a place where sin has never been, and sin will never be.
Jesus did not put off his flesh.

And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; Job Job 19:26
 

JohnB

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FYI no one here that I have seen said sex is bad. only in your mind and where you currently reside.

Being you brought it up which I disagree Angels had sexual desires but for the sake of argument,

Was angels having sex a good thing or a bad thing from the Biblical perspective?


It was a bad thing Per Genesis chapter 6 if one holds to the interpretation. If angels could not control, the desire to have sexual relations with Humans and are spiritual beings cast out of heaven what are the chances you will have sex in heaven and be in right standing with God when Angels could not?

You are unbiblical and carnal-minded.
Explain Genesis 6
 

JohnB

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What eschatology has believers being in heaven for a long time anyway? The sons of the resurrection will be like the angels of God in heaven.
:Jesus replied, “Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God. For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven. Matthew 22-29

Notice he said "In this respect" He narrowed it down to JUST marriage.
 

presidente

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:Jesus replied, “Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God. For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven. Matthew 22-29

Notice he said "In this respect" He narrowed it down to JUST marriage.
That wasn't what I was focusing on. He said angels of God in heaven.... not that we would be in heaven.

But 'in this respect' seems to be rather loose language, maybe to make this translation distinct enough to get a copyright.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/20-36.htm
 

Blain

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Jesus said to Thomas, "Touch me and see. A spirit does not have flesh and bone"
Then how did the sons of God come and procreate with mankind? how did God come into this world in the flesh? you also cannot use your logic and human reason with the things of the spirit God is spirit


And don't forget 1 Corinthians 15:53 says, “For it is necessary for this perishable body to put on incorruptibility, and this mortal body to put on immortality”. In other translations, the verse reads, “For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality”
 
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I don’t believe there is gender in heaven.
At least not how we look at it here.