Tell me if I have this right about your idea of what happens in heaven

[JohnB]

Right. There is no gender in heaven. No female.

There are no women in heaven? Only men?

The men and women listed in Hebrews 11 were all said to be with the Lord in heaven with no mention of losing gender identity.

 

[selahsays]

There are no women in heaven? Only men?

Right.

 

[selahsays]

Have you noticed, John, that any angel who has ever visited earth was always male? For example, Gabriel and Michael? …and the angels mentioned in Sodom?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful,

yes, the Angels have INDEPENDENT Thoughts where they can make decisions for or against.
if you were an Angel, that for the sake of being a Fallen Angel, and saw that God made MEN, like they are MALE, not men but only MALE. They do not have sexual organs. They are MALE in difference between the spirit of a male or female.

But here is a Created Powerful Enemy of God, more powerful than God's Creation of Humanity. And God gave those MEN [Angels are ""only"" Male]...the Angels SAW that God gave those MEN, BEAUTIFUL WOMEN, to enjoy.

what did the Angel get, from the mind of the Fallen Angel? That Angel thinks i not only [[do not]] get the package of a MAN, but i am still MALE, and the MAN gets this HOT SMOKIN BABE and I, the Fallen Angel, is an ALONE ENTITY confined to being some Impotent MALE!!


These Angels were MAD!!

so Mad, they mesmerized human women and by being a kind of spirit that can POSSESS a human, POSSESSED these WOMEN by non sexually placing fertilized demonic egg into the WOMB.

God used the WORD it PIERCED humanity!!


You are Biblically WRONG about your definition of Genesis 6.

Get Over It!

 

[JohnB]

yes, the Angels have INDEPENDENT Thoughts where they can make decisions for or against.
if you were an Angel, that for the sake of being a Fallen Angel, and saw that God made MEN, like they are MALE, not men but only MALE. They do not have sexual organs. They are MALE in difference between the spirit of a male or female.

But here is a Created Powerful Enemy of God, more powerful than God's Creation of Humanity. And God gave those MEN [Angels are ""only"" Male]...the Angels SAW that God gave those MEN, BEAUTIFUL WOMEN, to enjoy.

what did the Angel get, from the mind of the Fallen Angel? That Angel thinks i not only [[do not]] get the package of a MAN, but i am still MALE, and the MAN gets this HOT SMOKIN BABE and I, the Fallen Angel, is an ALONE ENTITY confined to being some Impotent MALE!!


These Angels were MAD!!

so Mad, they mesmerized human women and by being a kind of spirit that can POSSESS a human, POSSESSED these WOMEN by non sexually placing fertilized demonic egg into the WOMB.

God used the WORD it PIERCED humanity!!


You are Biblically WRONG about your definition of Genesis 6.

Get Over It!

I think you have gone off the deep end.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I think you have gone off the deep end.

Dude, if Angels were like men and were going to rebel towards God, if they had sexual organs. they would have went after the MEN. Gay Sex is an absolute purest form of an Abomination unto God. if they had packages, they would have went full blown queer.

but they chose women, because women give birth.

and Jesus was made without SEX involved.

Possessing a human and placing an egg into the womb is no different than those demons who made 1 man so wild and powerful an entire town feared him. Jesus, sent those demons into pigs.

you are just in Denial and full blown Rebellion to God's Word.

 

[tourist]

You do know we will eat, drink, have jobs and homes in heaven. We will be doing other things besides worshiping Jesus.

For sure, brother. Gonna score me a job in a factory that makes widgets that are high in demand. Gonna go home and do some eating and drinking. Afterwards? I don't know, just have to wait and see.

 

[tourist]

You do know for some being single is not a blessing, it's a curse.

I always look forward to coming home to my honey after a hard day at work. She is a real sweetheart.

 

[JohnB]

I always look forward to coming home to my honey after a hard day at work. She is a real sweetheart.

One time I asked a friend, who had a 2 year old, what it was like. He said, "John I could have the worst day ever. When I walk in the house and see my 2 year old playing on the floor, nothing else matters" I heard a major movie stars say, "I would not be here if it wasn't for my wife"

 

[JohnB]

Dude, if Angels were like men and were going to rebel towards God, if they had sexual organs. they would have went after the MEN. Gay Sex is an absolute purest form of an Abomination unto God. if they had packages, they would have went full blown queer.

but they chose women, because women give birth.

and Jesus was made without SEX involved.

Possessing a human and placing an egg into the womb is no different than those demons who made 1 man so wild and powerful an entire town feared him. Jesus, sent those demons into pigs.

you are just in Denial and full blown Rebellion to God's Word.

The angels were attracted to the WOMEN.

 

[tourist]

One time I asked a friend, who had a 2 year old, what it was like. He said, "John I could have the worst day ever. When I walk in the house and see my 2 year old playing on the floor, nothing else matters" I heard a major movie stars say, "I would not be here if it wasn't for my wife"

I can relate to this. I only had one child, a daughter, from my horrible first wife. This little tyke was delightful to watch. I feel like your last sentence is true for my current wife. (8 yrs+ so far)

 

[JohnB]

I always look forward to coming home to my honey after a hard day at work. She is a real sweetheart.

The relationship can make you feel closer to GOD.

 

[tourist]

The relationship can make you feel closer to GOD.

Indeed it has done just that.

 

[oyster67]

And what is so wrong about that? why should it matter if we don't have lust in heaven have you seen any mention in the bible about sex being in heaven?

I'm with you Blain.
It is said how some folks believe that we have to get our pants off in order to have a good time. Very off-putting to the romantic types who enjoy fine wine and dine and watching sunsets together and nice little fireside chats over a mug of hot chocolate.

 

[oyster67]

The angels were attracted to the WOMEN.

And it was a most unhealthy kind of attraction.

 

[oyster67]

Oyster is a member of the Eunuchs club, I'm not

I am happy to be there if that is what God wants me to be and He believes that is what is best. I trust His Judgement. I just want to be in the center of His will. That is what gives me the most peace and joy.

Acts 8:27
“And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,”

 

[JohnB]

Indeed it has done just that.

Many Christians do not understand that. I have talked to many Christians, asking them, when they got married or had a child what changed. Many said the world became a different place, they understood bible verse much more deeply. I got so fed up with Christians telling me...."if you just put Jesus first, if you just read your bible more, if you just gave more to the church, if you just prayed and asked Jesus......." I was studying the bible more, working more in ministry, giving more than many of them.

 

[JohnB]

I am happy to be there if that is what God wants me to be and He believes that is what is best. I trust His Judgement. I just want to be in the center of His will. That is what gives me the most peace and joy.

Acts 8:27
“And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,”

Do you think Jonah enjoyed his calling? How about Jeramiah and Joseph in prison, Do you really think they praised GOD for being in prison? Did John the Baptist look forward to having his head cut off. Jesus told Peter, "Men will lead you where you do not want to go" Told him how he was going to die and Peter would not like it. Did Job like loosing his wealth, health and family? Be glad GOD has not tested you like he did them or me. Leading you in a path you hate.

 

[JohnB]

And it was a most unhealthy kind of attraction.

Interesting GOD never said it was wrong. or told them not to. GOD brought the flood because men's hearts were evil. That would have happened with or without the acts of angels.

 

[tourist]

Many Christians do not understand that. I have talked to many Christians, asking them, when they got married or had a child what changed. Many said the world became a different place, they understood bible verse much more deeply. I got so fed up with Christians telling me...."if you just put Jesus first, if you just read your bible more, if you just gave more to the church, if you just prayed and asked Jesus......." I was studying the bible more, working more in ministry, giving more than many of them.

Sounds as if those Christians were biblically and spiritually naive.

I read a story once about a rich guy who was bragging about his stuff to a poor destitute man. The poor man asked the rich man how he acquired so much excess wealth. The rich guy said that God gave it to me because he loves me. The poor guy, sad and downtrodden, asked "Doesn't God love me too?"

If all these Christians had to offer was 'putting Jesus first" than they too are poor indeed. It is like telling a disabled or terminally illl person that they lack faith to become healed, when the actual truth is that they themselves lack the faith to heal those that are hurting or sick.