The Trinity

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I know that the Greek does not say that. I am [he] is not enough Greek words for that.
who cares, Jesus, Spoke Aramaic, not Greek. He came to the JEWS and then opened the way for the Gentile. that means the Greek is not 100% accurate in translation.
 
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who cares, Jesus, Spoke Aramaic, not Greek. He came to the JEWS and then opened the way for the Gentile. that means the Greek is not 100% accurate in translation.
You are talking about how accurate the Greek is in translation. I don't know what to make of that. I read English. I don't read Aramaic.

When was the Aramaic translation that you are reading made?
 
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You are talking about how accurate the Greek is in translation. I don't know what to make of that. I read English. I don't read Aramaic.

When was the Aramaic translation that you are reading made?
everyone knows there's Aramaic words in the Gospels because when they translated to Greek later on, they did not have Greek words and left the Aramaic.

so the Aramaic is the Original.

and in the Aramaic, Jesus says:

Using the Translation known as the Aramaic Bible in Plain English.

Let's begin with the Gospel of Matthew:

But Yeshua immediately spoke with them and he said, “Take heart; I AM THE LIVING GOD. Do not be afraid.” Matthew 14:27

Now from the Gospel of Mark:

"For they all saw him and they were afraid and immediately he spoke with them and he said to them, “Take heart, I AM THE LIVING GOD; do not be afraid.” Mark 6:50

"But Yeshua said to him, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven.” Mark 14:62

And from Luke's Gospel:

"But all of them were saying, “You are therefore the Son of God?” Yeshua said to them, “You are saying that I AM THE LIVING GOD.” Luke 22:70

And finally, from the Gospel of John the Beloved:

"Yeshua said to her, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, I who am speaking with you.” John 4:26

"But Yeshua said to them, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, do not be afraid.” John 6:20

“I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for unless you shall believe that I AM THE LIVING GOD, you shall die in your sins.” John 8:24


"Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD.” John 8:58

“Now I am telling you before it happens, that when it has occurred, you shall believe that I AM THE LIVING GOD.” John 13:19

"They were saying to him, “Yeshua the Nazarene.” Yeshua said to them, “I AM THE LIVING GOD.” But Yehuda the traitor was also standing with them. And when Yeshua said to them, “I AM THE LIVING GOD”, they went backward and fell to the ground." John 18:5-6

To those who would ask, "Does Jesus ever say He is God in the Bible?" He Himself says,


“I AM THE LIVING GOD.”
 
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everyone knows there's Aramaic words in the Gospels because when they translated to Greek later on, they did not have Greek words and left the Aramaic.

so the Aramaic is the Original.

and in the Aramaic, Jesus says:

Using the Translation known as the Aramaic Bible in Plain English.

Let's begin with the Gospel of Matthew:

But Yeshua immediately spoke with them and he said, “Take heart; I AM THE LIVING GOD. Do not be afraid.” Matthew 14:27

Now from the Gospel of Mark:

"For they all saw him and they were afraid and immediately he spoke with them and he said to them, “Take heart, I AM THE LIVING GOD; do not be afraid.” Mark 6:50

"But Yeshua said to him, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven.” Mark 14:62

And from Luke's Gospel:

"But all of them were saying, “You are therefore the Son of God?” Yeshua said to them, “You are saying that I AM THE LIVING GOD.” Luke 22:70

And finally, from the Gospel of John the Beloved:

"Yeshua said to her, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, I who am speaking with you.” John 4:26

"But Yeshua said to them, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, do not be afraid.” John 6:20

“I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for unless you shall believe that I AM THE LIVING GOD, you shall die in your sins.” John 8:24


"Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD.” John 8:58

“Now I am telling you before it happens, that when it has occurred, you shall believe that I AM THE LIVING GOD.” John 13:19

"They were saying to him, “Yeshua the Nazarene.” Yeshua said to them, “I AM THE LIVING GOD.” But Yehuda the traitor was also standing with them. And when Yeshua said to them, “I AM THE LIVING GOD”, they went backward and fell to the ground." John 18:5-6

To those who would ask, "Does Jesus ever say He is God in the Bible?" He Himself says,


“I AM THE LIVING GOD.”
I am not sure or certain, but that also does not answer my question.
 
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I asked about when the Aramaic was written, so no it does not answer the question.
the Aramaic would have been written by Matthew as he watched Yeshua do things, or John, plus Luke. and everyone knows Mark is the Greek translation to Peter's Aramaic. Mark, was both family to Peter, and Disciple. so the Gospel of Mark, is well known it really is Peter. and Peter, spoke Aramaic.
 
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the Aramaic would have been written by Matthew as he watched Yeshua do things, or John, plus Luke. and everyone knows Mark is the Greek translation to Peter's Aramaic. Mark, was both family to Peter, and Disciple. so the Gospel of Mark, is well known it really is Peter. and Peter, spoke Aramaic.
I am not sure.
 
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That is fine. I don't mind discussing it with you. But I thought Mark in Mark even identifies himself.
here is Papias confirming Mark wrote for Peter:

This also the presbyter used to say: "Mark, indeed, who became the interpreter of Peter, wrote accurately, as far as he remembered them, the things said or done by the Lord, but not however in order." For he [Mark] had neither heard the Lord nor been his personal follower, but at a later stage, as I said, he had followed Peter, who used to adapt the teachings to the needs of the moment, but not as though he were drawing up a connected account of the oracles of the Lord: so that Mark committed no error in writing certain matters just as he remembered them. For he had only one object in view, namely to leave out nothing of the things which he had heard, and to include no false statement among them.(See my The Growth of the Gospels (1933), pp. 98 ff.; also the article by my son, Robert M. Grant, "The Oldest Gospel Prologues," Anglican Theological Review, 23:231-45.)


here is Gospel of Matthew originally written in Hebrew, which uses many Aramaic terms.:

everyone knows this and here is the blanket statement for it:

According to Papias, Matthew the Apostle was the first to compose a gospel, and he did so in Hebrew. Papias appeared to imply that this Hebrew or Aramaic gospel (sometimes called the Authentic Matthew) was subsequently translated into the canonical Gospel of Matthew.
 
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here is Papias confirming Mark wrote for Peter:

This also the presbyter used to say: "Mark, indeed, who became the interpreter of Peter, wrote accurately, as far as he remembered them, the things said or done by the Lord, but not however in order." For he [Mark] had neither heard the Lord nor been his personal follower, but at a later stage, as I said, he had followed Peter, who used to adapt the teachings to the needs of the moment, but not as though he were drawing up a connected account of the oracles of the Lord: so that Mark committed no error in writing certain matters just as he remembered them. For he had only one object in view, namely to leave out nothing of the things which he had heard, and to include no false statement among them.(See my The Growth of the Gospels (1933), pp. 98 ff.; also the article by my son, Robert M. Grant, "The Oldest Gospel Prologues," Anglican Theological Review, 23:231-45.)


here is Gospel of Matthew originally written in Hebrew, which uses many Aramaic terms.:

everyone knows this and here is the blanket statement for it:

According to Papias, Matthew the Apostle was the first to compose a gospel, and he did so in Hebrew. Papias appeared to imply that this Hebrew or Aramaic gospel (sometimes called the Authentic Matthew) was subsequently translated into the canonical Gospel of Matthew.
I was able to read this your post. What does it or you mean was subsequently translated?
 
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I was able to read this your post. What does it or you mean was subsequently translated?
it means, in 3rd Century, the man, Jerome, who translated the Bible into the Latin Vulgate, also, wrote down the Hebrew Version of the Gospel of Matthew, and they have been authenticating it and going to make it into a Hebrew to English Gospel of Matthew.
 
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it means, in 3rd Century, the man, Jerome, who translated the Bible into the Latin Vulgate, also, wrote down the Hebrew Version of the Gospel of Matthew, and they have been authenticating it and going to make it into a Hebrew to English Gospel of Matthew.
Interesting. I don't know when English became a language.
 
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Interesting. I don't know when English became a language.
not until later, but like when Alexander the Great conquered the known world, Greek Language spread, and then during the English Crusades it erupted into the English Language being spread about.
 
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It is interesting, but I don't know how English became so popular.
i think the english/kings army during the Crusades forced people to speak it and it's been common sense then. it's probably easier to speak than some native Languages to others,