No, it seems you dont understand my post.You are agreeing to what was stated by your own words. All the verses I stated and statements within them in bold are all Gospel.
No, it seems you dont understand my post.You are agreeing to what was stated by your own words. All the verses I stated and statements within them in bold are all Gospel.
Thank you. But its not an matter of understanding. Its an matter of sound teaching.All the proof you need is in the book of Acts. If you don't believe that Book than you don't believe any of the Bible. I will keep you in my prayer that God would open your understanding.
Thank you. But its not an matter of understanding. Its an matter of sound teaching.
We need more tongue speakers with this attitude. Frankly those I have met (not a large sample size) have all shown a strong sense of personal pride treating me as inferior because I don't speak in tongues. As a Christian who has been saved the moment I believed, I've found their behavior indistinguishable from Sathya Sai and Qigong followers.Please help me clearly understand our differences so we both together in love can find truth through His Word.
I thought speaking in tongues just meant speaking another language....?
like Japanese, or Italian...but not dog or cat...lol
I thought speaking in tongues just meant speaking another language....?
like Japanese, or Italian...but not dog or cat...lol
Yes this is what speaking in tongues means.
Not according to this... there are different types of tongues. (1 Corinthians 12:10)
1 Corinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
And Paul also said in 1cor chapter 14, A UNIT CHAPTER, MEANING THE CONTEXT DID NOT END IN CHAPTER 12 OR 13.Correct, only the word of God is the measure.
Paul said in 1. COR. 12,30: Have all the gift of healing? Have all the gift of speaking in tongues? The answer of this question was: no! says the context.
the answer is all can do all do no.Correct, only the word of God is the measure.
Paul said in 1. COR. 12,30: Have all the gift of healing? Have all the gift of speaking in tongues? The answer of this question was: no! says the context.
Did not Paul also say that he wished all could prophesy, but not that all should speak in tongues? He said that prophesying is far better for the whole church.the answer is all can do all do not.
Did not Paul also say that he wished all could prophesy, but not that all should speak in tongues? He said that prophesying is far better for the whole church.
This has nothing to do with the claim that all believers which are received/baptised with the Holy Spirit got the gift of speaking in tongues. This is false teaching. A doctrine which is man made. F.e. The same is if you would claim that all believers will have the gift of healing. This is a wrong interpretation from the word of God.NO, he said he would rather."
Paul is not speaking to the letter of the law;
Paul is saying what he would like.
Paul did not say Do not speak in tongues but Prophesy, HE said :
" DO not forbid speaking in Tongues." Verse 39 of Chapter 14.
Prophesy and look up the word "greater" in Greek. It is almost the same as the effectiveness.
Paul said, "UNLESS there is an interpretation" to edify.
What many don't know is
1. Propeshying is speaking under the inspiration in the context of chapters 12 through 14 of 1corthinians in your own native language
2. Tongues and interpretation are equal to prophesying or the same as what Paul said in chapter 14.
Prophesy unless there is an Interpretation Paul said that in verse 5 of chapter 14.
Same difference. This was in fact A REBUKE to those who wanted everyone speaking in tongues. What Paul was saying is if you want everyone to have the same spiritual gift then it should be prophesying, NOT speaking in tongues. So why are you not following what Paul said?NO, he said he would rather."
This has nothing to do with the claim that all believers which are received/baptised with the Holy Spirit got the gift of speaking in tongues. This is false teaching. A doctrine which is man made. F.e. The same is if you would claim that all believers will have the gift of healing. This is a wrong interpretation from the word of God.
read it again it was not I who said "Do not forbid to speak in Tongues" but do so with orderly discipline.Same difference. This was in fact A REBUKE to those who wanted everyone speaking in tongues. What Paul was saying is if you want everyone to have the same spiritual gift then it should be prophesying, NOT speaking in tongues. So why are you not following what Paul said?
that old dried-out FLASE Narrtivie by THE cessationist is laughable. FYI THE CHURCH HAS BEEN IN ERROR before, during, and after the reformation. You can't hold the church fathers as authoritative as the word of GOD.
Jesus is the Baptizer in the Holy Spirit. Jesus said you will receive power after the Holy Ghost has come upon you to be MY Witnesses.
The Empowering of the Holy Spirit is already normative in the New Tesament for all believers. NOWHERE in the word of God does it say it is not for today, and Even if you have not seen it or your false Narrative of the early "Church Fathers" did not teach on the baptism of the Holy Spirit, Jesus did, Paul did. The authoritative word of God does. Your disclaimer of the
"church fathers dont taught this teaching"
Doesn't matter because Jesus did. There were many things the church did not teach and even more that were wrong unless you align with the RCC tradition, which I might add did not teach of the Holy Spirit empowerment. I guess we are to all now pay penance?
Jesus is the Authoritative word, SIR, and the Bible is the inspired word of God. I don't need the church fathers to teach on that. The Lord Jesus and Paul did just fine.