What if God had written IN STONE?

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Niki7

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so again Brawah, what commandments did Jesus say we could keep to the perfection that is required by God?

kindly answer this question which so far you have ignored.
 
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First off, I am not preaching and never said I was. My posts are based on both scripture and my many years as a Christian with much experience and study as well as service and testifying of my life in Christ so that others may hear and believe

you do not seem able to answer a straightforward question.

you can copy/paste the entire Bible in 23 languages and multiple versions but none of it will say what you are saying

we do not live by doing our 'best' to follow the 10 commandments

the 10 commandments condemn those outside of Christ but we are made perfect IN Christ and God does not see us as sinners anymore

This does not mean we no longer sin...it means our sins are no longer leading to death and eternal punishment

you do not post about the gospel....you have made up your own version that condemns and does not heal and lead to salvation
I suggest that you not make any effort to obey the 10 Commandments.

I think that would be best for you personally.

Does that lighten your load a bit? :love:
 
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so again Brawah, what commandments did Jesus say we could keep to the perfection that is required by God?

kindly answer this question which so far you have ignored.
It's a completely irrelevant question.

:geek:
 

Cameron143

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it just seems odd when you look at the big picture:

God wants Relationship
to have that, it requires man to be Crippled with Sin.

if we Stop here, it does not look very good and enlightening towards God.

But, once we KNOW YESHUA, we no longer care how God made it be.
I see it a little differently. God was in relationship with man before sin. So sin, in my opinion, wasn't allowed for relationship reasons. But for the Christian, I do believe there are ddefinite benefits; the chiefest being made partakers of the divine nature.
From God's perspective, it aids His goal of filling the earth with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.
 

Cameron143

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I suggest that you not make any effort to obey the 10 Commandments.

I think that would be best for you personally.

Does that lighten your load a bit? :love:
Jesus lightens the load as we live with Him under His yoke.
 
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Niki7

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I suggest that you not make any effort to obey the 10 Commandments.

I think that would be best for you personally.

Does that lighten your load a bit? :love:
that is a shameful dodge and you know it

I have no need of any load being lightened because Jesus tells me to come to Him

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. “Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. “For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matthew11: 28-30

answer the question or just stop telling everyone they need to 'try' and follow the 10 commandments and that is what Jesus taught
 

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no, i am trained in many ways from the military in how to read people.
typed words, are the easiest way to read people.
you can literally feel the emotion and the [[spirit]] behind them.
Still no supporting evidence.
 
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It's a completely irrelevant question.

:geek:
You reveal there is no commandment(s) Jesus ever said we could keep.

you are inventing your own religion and gospel NOT according to scripture

answer the question. when you do, you will finally come to the truth that we are only saved by the grace of God through the blood of Christ and the only way to the Father is through the Son
 
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Modern perspectives would lead many to believe that the 10 Commandments were written in stone due to some primitive caveman evolutionary gobbledy-gook. "Well it's because that's all they had back then!", they surmise.

The fact is that everything God has ever done has had deep symbolic meaning beneath the obvious surface purposes.

The 10 Commandments written in stone could not have been a more obvious declaration from God Almighty that they were intended to stand forever and never, ever be changed. Just as God is unchanging, so are His Laws and the 10 Commandments are also a moral structure of just who God is. It's no coincidence that Jesus Christ is referred to as the rock; the solid, unchanging, immovable foundation of Truth and all things holy and just.

The 10 Commandments were given to all mankind and Christ reiterated their importance by teaching them all, obeying them all and made certain that His followers understood to continue to keep them after His Crucifixion - which is exactly what they did. It would only make sense that He would do so as He was the Creator of them.

Why then do we have so many naysayers today who make such ridiculous claims as 'You will be damned to hell if you obey the Commandments!' and 'Obedience to the Commandments is "works salvation"!'? The Bible told us very clearly that we would have grievous wolves come into the churches and lead many astray. We have been told that the blind leaders of the blind lead many into the ditch. We have also been told by Jesus Himself that the road to salvation is a narrow one and many, many would be led down the wide road to destruction.

The 10 Commandments are now, and always will be, applicable to all professed Christians and they are quite literally the very foundation of the Christian Faith.
 
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I see it a little differently. God was in relationship with man before sin. So sin, in my opinion, wasn't allowed for relationship reasons. But for the Christian, I do believe there are ddefinite benefits; the chiefest being made partakers of the divine nature.
From God's perspective, it aids His goal of filling the earth with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.
I can see all views and can agree to them all.

But I always remember, even while God was walking with Adam in the Garden, the Tree of Life, was a standing reminder that things were going to change.
 
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You reveal there is no commandment(s) Jesus ever said we could keep.

you are inventing your own religion and gospel NOT according to scripture

answer the question. when you do, you will finally come to the truth that we are only saved by the grace of God through the blood of Christ and the only way to the Father is through the Son
It's all there.

:D
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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so again Brawah, what commandments did Jesus say we could keep to the perfection that is required by God?

kindly answer this question which so far you have ignored.
i will answer this question , answer all the 10 commandments, they were safe-kept in the ARK of the covenant for a reason. Yeshua is GOD ! He gave us the commandments!, the LORD wants us to be HOLY!

read JOHN 14:15
New International Version
“If you love me, keep my commands.

New Living Translation
“If you love me, obey my commandments.

English Standard Version
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

Berean Standard Bible
If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Berean Literal Bible
If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

King James Bible
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

New King James Version
“If you love Me, keep My commandments.

New American Standard Bible
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

NASB 1995
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

NASB 1977
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Legacy Standard Bible
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Amplified Bible
“If you [really] love Me, you will keep and obey My commandments.
 
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Niki7

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Modern perspectives would lead many to believe that the 10 Commandments were written in stone due to some primitive caveman evolutionary gobbledy-gook. "Well it's because that's all they had back then!", they surmise.
the gobbledegook is what you are saying here.. you are not making light of serious and life altering issues.

do you not know that the blood of Jesus is in heaven because He was the final sacrifice? Christians should know this and understand that is what God acknowledges and no human works. It is further proof that Christ took upon Himself the sins of the world so that whosoever will may come...to the Father through Him.

23 Thus it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these rites, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true things, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf.25 Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters the holy places every year with blood not his own,26 for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appearedonce for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him. Hebrews 9
 
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Niki7

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Jesus is the final Word.


you would do well to actually believe that and stop making jokes. you may think you are somehow 'protected' from people who disagree with your personal interpretations, but the Holy Spirit actually emboldens people to contradict your nonsense
 
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Niki7

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i will answer this question , answer all the 10 commandments, they were safe-kept in the ARK of the covenant for a reason. Yeshua is GOD ! He gave us the commandments!, the LORD wants us to be HOLY!

read JOHN 14:15
New International Version
“If you love me, keep my commands.

New Living Translation
“If you love me, obey my commandments.

English Standard Version
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

Berean Standard Bible
If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Berean Literal Bible
If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

King James Bible
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

New King James Version
“If you love Me, keep My commandments.

New American Standard Bible
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

NASB 1995
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

NASB 1977
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Legacy Standard Bible
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Amplified Bible
“If you [really] love Me, you will keep and obey My commandments.
I dislike the fact you cannot, apparently and you are not alone, display any knowledge of the fact that Jesus fulfilled all of the law with no help from you whatsoever

you did not create your own salvation, but for some reason that escapes me, (well I probably could say) you prefer to now work it out for yourself.
 
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Niki7

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so which of you two, mr B and mr thy are able to expound on the blood of Christ in heaven?

anything?