Why is there such a high rate of "second chance"women?

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Liamson

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persecuted said:
So then, what is your take on Canadian and American churches who help smuggle people into the country and then encourage them to apply for social assistance with the host nation? Christian or non-Christian?

Next, U.S.A. has apparently donated $400 million to the current situation in Africa. Should christians support or say "butt out and let us do our own donating?" And since the government is in fact taking money for this endeavour from taxpayers, then why shouldn't a taxpayer say "I've already done my part, find someone else to donate?"

Of course, in the grand scheme of things, it must be remembered that God can save all with a snap of his fingers if he pleases anyhow. So how do you know that there ISN'T a Sodom and Gomorah type punishment attached to chronically suffering regions?
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God can do many things, if He so pleases but, we know from the Bible what is within His Character to do and what He has done before.

I've never seen a tax increase labeled "For Africa" Taxes are taxes. They will continue to be taxes long after I am dead. How the Government sees fit to distribute those taxes is up to whatever interests the Government is interested in. Since the US government has its fingers in everything, I assume the money it taxes from me is going to go everywhere.

A country is not its Government, it is its people. If I was Russian, would I be concerned about how much money we spent on the recently Acquired parcels of Land from Georgia? Probably not. Neither am I truly concerned about how much money we sent to Columbia to fight the war on drugs.

This reminds me of a Newsboys song.
"After the climb, after time turns designs to despair, it is good, nothing's fair. Its all who you know."

newsboys - It's All Who You Know - YouTube
 
Snackersmom

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Hi, Persecuted! It's nice to see that you are just as willing to derail your own threads as you are to derail the threads of others. Very refreshing to see, I must say. But something about your posts has me worried. You keep bringing up the solicitation of funds to Third World countries. Has Snackers been hitting you up for donations again? I told you to just ignore him, for goodness' sake! FOR THE LAST TIME, DO NOT DONATE TO HIS "CAUSES"! He doesn't work for the U.N., he just uses the money to bankroll his lavish lifestyle. I can get you one last refund by garnishing the revenue from his trust-fund, but, seriously, it's a lot of paperwork, and you're on your own after this.
 
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persecuted

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Can't say I personally have given lately but apparently your children are all over here trying to convince me that I should. Wow. Just how many children do you have anyhow???
 
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eelhsa

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I am single and have never been married or had children. Sometimes I feel like there are no mid-twenties single men who have never been married or had kids. I think that whether you're a man or a woman it can feel that way sometimes. I don't look down on anyone who has been married before and/or had kids though, just to make that clear, it's just that for me, I am looking for a man who hasn't.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that it can go both ways if someone chooses to generalize about the single people out there. And yes, the church is a place for second chances, since all of us have messed up in many ways throughout our lives. The church is not full of perfect people by any means, and in fact should be full of people who are even more aware of how imperfect they are.
 
Snackersmom

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I really like your answer, eelhsa! The last sentence was especially true, too bad more christians don't get it :(

persecuted said:
Can't say I personally have given lately but apparently your children are all over here trying to convince me that I should. Wow. Just how many children do you have anyhow???
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Well, TECHNICALLY I don't have any kids, but I have been legally responsible for Snackers ever since both of his parents were killed in a tragic kiln accident, and he can be hard to keep an eye on. But let's not derail the thread by switching the topic to churchgoing single moms. You often mention how people on this site want you to give money to third world causes. I believe that you may have actually been conversing with Snackers, and I am trying to hunt down his screen-name so that no one else will be victimized. Could you please post what threads the requests for cash were found in? It seems that it must happen often, because you mention it a LOT. Thanks in advance for your help!
 
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eelhsa said:
I am single and have never been married or had children. Sometimes I feel like there are no mid-twenties single men who have never been married or had kids. I think that whether you're a man or a woman it can feel that way sometimes. I don't look down on anyone who has been married before and/or had kids though, just to make that clear, it's just that for me, I am looking for a man who hasn't.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that it can go both ways if someone chooses to generalize about the single people out there. And yes, the church is a place for second chances, since all of us have messed up in many ways throughout our lives. The church is not full of perfect people by any means, and in fact should be full of people who are even more aware of how imperfect they are.
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I have a question then for your last sentence. Why do people have a false belief then that you should go to church to find a "worthwhile" partner when clearly you're going to find the exact same girls in church on sunday morning as you would at the nightclub on saturday night?
 
Elizabeth619

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Persecuted. I find it almost impossible that you arent slapped by women on a daily basis.
 
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eelhsa

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persecuted said:
I have a question then for your last sentence. Why do people have a false belief then that you should go to church to find a "worthwhile" partner when clearly you're going to find the exact same girls in church on sunday morning as you would at the nightclub on saturday night?
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I think that is too much of a generalization. Are there some girls who go to nightclubs and go to church? Sure. But there are so many girls, and guys out there who truly are not interested in that kind of lifestyle and really are committed to serving the Lord with their lives.

We all feel discouraged at times when it seems like we will never find anyone who shares our values and morals. I know I do. I have prayed and hoped and waited for the person I will get to spend the rest of my life with. It hasn't happened yet. The most important thing is seeking God first and trusting Him, He'll take care of the rest.

Frustration with the way life seems to go happens to all of us. We need to learn to trust God through good times and bad. He never promised life would be easy, quite the opposite acutally. And at the right time, if it is God's plan for you, you will meet a wonderful girl. And because you have seen how hard it is to find someone who shares your foundational beliefs and perspectives, you will be able to really appreciate how special she is.

Just don't worry too much, life is short and each day truly is a gift.

 
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eelhsa said:
I think that is too much of a generalization. Are there some girls who go to nightclubs and go to church? Sure. But there are so many girls, and guys out there who truly are not interested in that kind of lifestyle and really are committed to serving the Lord with their lives.

We all feel discouraged at times when it seems like we will never find anyone who shares our values and morals. I know I do. I have prayed and hoped and waited for the person I will get to spend the rest of my life with. It hasn't happened yet. The most important thing is seeking God first and trusting Him, He'll take care of the rest.

Frustration with the way life seems to go happens to all of us. We need to learn to trust God through good times and bad. He never promised life would be easy, quite the opposite acutally. And at the right time, if it is God's plan for you, you will meet a wonderful girl. And because you have seen how hard it is to find someone who shares your foundational beliefs and perspectives, you will be able to really appreciate how special she is.

Just don't worry too much, life is short and each day truly is a gift.
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You are so right :) Everyday is a gift and God didn't say this life would be easy.
 
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eelhsa said:
I think that is too much of a generalization. Are there some girls who go to nightclubs and go to church? Sure. But there are so many girls, and guys out there who truly are not interested in that kind of lifestyle and really are committed to serving the Lord with their lives.

We all feel discouraged at times when it seems like we will never find anyone who shares our values and morals. I know I do. I have prayed and hoped and waited for the person I will get to spend the rest of my life with. It hasn't happened yet. The most important thing is seeking God first and trusting Him, He'll take care of the rest.

Frustration with the way life seems to go happens to all of us. We need to learn to trust God through good times and bad. He never promised life would be easy, quite the opposite acutally. And at the right time, if it is God's plan for you, you will meet a wonderful girl. And because you have seen how hard it is to find someone who shares your foundational beliefs and perspectives, you will be able to really appreciate how special she is.

Just don't worry too much, life is short and each day truly is a gift.
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Well I dunno, now that I know churches aren't all about naive virginal girls too dumb to know that they are about to get plucked but rather a bunch of well seasoned women collecting alimony and child support I can't think of any reason whatsoever to feel bad about going after the big busted beer tub girl on saturday night rather than the alleged "good christian girl" on sunday morning. My illusions have been tested and I have seen the errors of my ways. I must make it up and apologize to all of the poor misunderstood beer tub girls.
 
Liamson

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Elizabeth619 said:
Persecuted. I find it almost impossible that you arent slapped by women on a daily basis.
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Something tells me that he's not quite the person his posts make him out to be in real life.
 
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persecuted

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Liamson said:
Something tells me that he's not quite the person his posts make him out to be in real life.
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That's deep. Oh, Liamson, do tell, you should message me with your suspicions some day.
 
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I agree with Liamson. This is nothing more than a floorshow and I wish people would stop going for the cheese. There are a lot of lonely, angry people who will say ugly things online that they don't have the guts to say in real life.
 
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'You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time'
~ Abraham Lincoln
 
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eelhsa

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Well, whichever's the case, our attitudes about things are truly up to us. This is something I have had to learn, the hard way at times. Everyone gets discouraged and goes through difficult things in life, some choose a positive attitude despite that, and some choose to be negative. There are so many good and kind people out there, and I choose not to give up on that. You can't do enough to convince someone of hopeful things if they are determined to be negative, I know because I have been that negative person many times. I have also seen what choosing to be positive can do though, and that it's far better. I also have found that the attitude you put out there seems to attract people with similar attitudes and perspectives. It's like the saying "What I fear I create", I've seen a lot of truth in that.

Bottom line, we don't always get to choose our circumstances, but we do get to choose our attitudes and how we deal with our circumstances.
 
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Chirch isn't for perfect people. We're all human and we all make mistakes. I also happen to be a single woman who had never been married or had kids and goes to church.
 
Johnoble

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For every "second chance women" there's a second chance man. That is, a man who has divorce his wife or that has cowardly left her to attend his children. Let's not be quick to judge women only on this matter, men are even more responsible for it as they are meant to be the head of the house.
 
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persecuted

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I fail to understand how my views are negative. Why shouldn't I give the poor beer tub girl a chance? And as if the beer tub girls don't mostly celebrate christmas and say they are christian even if they don't ever go to church. Rather than judging any individuals I just think that the churches have become irrelevant with their pick and choose doctrines and the local honky tonk has a greater selection of women than the average communist / New World Order manipulated "church" with messages that are no different than 1990's anti-christian political correctness.... only they decided taking over the churches was a better strategy than fighting them.
 
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eelhsa

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Johnoble said:
For every "second chance women" there's a second chance man. That is, a man who has divorce his wife or that has cowardly left her to attend his children. Let's not be quick to judge women only on this matter, men are even more responsible for it as they are meant to be the head of the house.
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Well said Johnoble. I agree that it's not any one gender's fault at all. Everyone makes mistakes, that's unfortunately just that way it is in this world. We need to learn to be more forgiving, especially as Christians. If we are truly aware of how much we ourselves have been forgiven, we wouldn't point at other people and their faults nearly so much.
 
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