[QUOTE="uncle_mike,
Mike you might enjoy what Irenaeus said about creation who was taught by Polycarp, a disciple of Apostle John/
The devil is well practised in falsehood, by which Adam having been led astray, sinned on the sixth day of the creation, in which day also he has been renewed by Christ.
1. He had indeed been already accustomed to lie against
God, for the purpose of leading men astray. For at the beginning, when God had given to man a variety of things for food, while He commanded him not to eat of one tree only, as the
Scripture tells us that God said to Adam: From every tree which is in the garden you shall eat food; but from the tree of
knowledge of good and
evil, from this you shall not eat: for in the day that you shall eat of it, you shall die by death;
Genesis 2:16-17 he then, lying against the Lord, tempted man, as the
Scripture says that the serpent said to the
woman: Has God indeed said this, You shall not eat from every tree of the garden?
Genesis 3:1 And when she had exposed the
falsehood, and simply related the command, as He had said, From every tree of the garden we shall eat; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die:
Genesis 3:2-3 when he had [thus] learned from the
woman the command of
God, having brought his cunning into play, he finally deceived her by a
falsehood, saying, You shall not die by death; for God
knew that in the day you shall eat of it your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods,
knowing good and
evil.
Genesis 3:4 In the first place, then, in the garden of God he disputed about
God, as if God was not there, for he was
ignorant of the greatness of
God; and then, in the next place, after he had learned from the
woman that God had said that they should die if they tasted the aforesaid tree, opening his mouth, he uttered the third
falsehood, You shall not die by death. But that God was
true, and the serpent a liar, was
proved by the result, death having passed upon them who had eaten. For along with the fruit they did also fall under the power of death, because they ate in disobedience; and disobedience to God entails death. Wherefore, as they became forfeit to death, from that [moment] they were handed over to it.
2. Thus, then, in the day that they ate, in the same did they die, and became death's debtors, since it was one day of the creation. For it is said, There was made in the evening, and there was made in the morning, one day. Now in this same day that they ate, in that also did they die. But according to the cycle and progress of the days, after which one is termed first, another second, and another third, if anybody seeks diligently to learn upon what day out of the seven it was that
Adam died, he will find it by examining the dispensation of the Lord. For by summing up in Himself the whole
human race from the beginning to the end, He has also summed up its death. From this it is clear that the Lord suffered death, in
obedience to His Father, upon that day on which
Adam died while he disobeyed
God. Now he died on the same day in which he ate. For God said, In that day on which you shall eat of it, you shall die by death. The Lord, therefore, recapitulating in Himself this day, underwent His sufferings upon the day preceding the
Sabbath, that is, the sixth day of the creation, on which day man was created; thus granting him a second creation by means of His
passion, which is that [creation] out of death. And there are some, again, who relegate the death of
Adam to the thousandth year; for since a day of the Lord is as a thousand years,
2 Peter 3:8 he did not overstep the thousand years, but died within them, thus bearing out the sentence of his
sin. Whether, therefore, with respect to disobedience, which is death; whether [we consider] that, on account of that, they were delivered over to death, and made debtors to it; whether with respect to [the fact that on] one and the same day on which they ate they also died (for it is one day of the creation); whether [we regard this point], that, with respect to this cycle of days, they died on the day in which they did also eat, that is, the day of the preparation, which is termed the pure supper, that is, the sixth day of the feast, which the Lord also exhibited when He suffered on that day; or whether [we reflect] that he (Adam) did not overstep the thousand years, but died within their limit — it follows that, in regard to all these significations, God is indeed
true. For they died who tasted of the tree; and the serpent is
proved a liar and a murderer, as the Lord said of him: For he is a murderer from the beginning, and the
truth is not in him.
John 8:44