The Security Of The Believer

[Everlasting-Grace]

You only get saved one time.

yep.

And that salvation can not be lost..

 

[uncle_mike]

My mouth.. Dude you are getting out there. what is your problem?

You remind me of the perps I bust all day long.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

You remind me of the perps I bust all day long.

You remind me of a self righteous pharisee. Keep it up my friend.. I will report you

 

[uncle_mike]

Yes.

I learn to produce fruit under the law of Christ

That law WILL NOT SAVE ME.. nor will it KEEP ME SAVED (as you are saying it will.

Do you listen?

If you think you must be obedient to be SAVED.. Your putting people under THE LAW OF MOSES.

Because God said there are two ways to heaven

the law of Moses (obey every word)

the cross.

there is no other way

I am not even talking about obeying the Law of Moses, only the commandments of Jesus. I guess You are not a friend of Jesus because You think His commands are the Old Law.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Before this thread gets 'locked up'?

One of the points I was attempting to make is those in Christ are obeying commands "[14] Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you" that ultimately fulfill Verse [4] abide in me, and I in you. Whether if it is agreed upon or not, doing the commands of Jesus is a requirement or we are not His friends. And clearly only the friends doing the commands of Jesus will be in Heaven...How are people missing this?...I personally do not think it's possible to earn or keep salvation...And I am a Grace person because I was saved by Grace.

Precious friend, seems to be a contradiction between:

Impossible to "earn or keep" salvation, and the possibility of:

"only the [ earning / keeping ] friends of Jesus will be in heaven, eh?

God's Word Of Truth, studied Rightly Divided, does not "miss this" - it
(Matthew - John) does belong in God's Previous Context Of:

Prophecy / Covenants / Law, for the "lost sheep" of the house of Israel
faith PLUS works...

However, it does Not belong in, and Must Be:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
ie:

God's Current Context Of Grace, Within "The Revelation Of God's Mystery":

"By Grace Through faith" with not one mention of "friends" of Jesus, but,
we, Saved ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑, Have An Impossible To Break 'Relationship' Established
By God Himself With us Forever, upon "belief/faith/trust In Him, According To
The Gospel Of Grace!:

"For I delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,​

how that Christ Died for our sins according to the Scriptures;​

And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day​

According to the Scriptures" (1Co 15:3-4)​

​

Then, After What God Has Done, what we are to do is The Very
"Simplicity Of Christ" Which Is, The Law of "faith, which worketh By Love":

"For all the law is fulfilled in One Word, even in this; ​

Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." (Gal 5:14)​

This is not to prevent "the [ Impossible ] breaking Of The Above 'Relationship',
But, it is to complete "what we, Saved By Grace Through faith" are called for:

"God is faithful, By Whom ye Were Called unto the​

fellowship of His Son Jesus Christ our Lord." (1Co 1:9)​

​

Very BIG Difference between the two, eh?

Since there are no friends [ nor 'priests' Nor 'sheep' (of Israel) ] mentioned
in Romans - Philemon (Grace Love Letters), then what is mentioned?
All these, Correct?:

"{adopted, dear} children of {the Living God, light, the day, Abraham, promise}, believers, sons {of God}, daughters, brothers, sisters, brethren {beloved, carnal, faithful, and spiritual}, babes In Christ, {young, aged} men/women, {dearly}​

beloved {of The LORD}, members {in particular, one of another}, servants {of​

Christ}, saints, ministers, fellowlabourers, workers, co-labourers {with God},​

elect of God, followers of God, heirs/joint-heirs, the temple {of God},​

comforters, walkers, runners, kissers, greeters, saluters, sufferers, groaners,​

prayer partners, rejoicers, warriors, wrestlers, And, ambassadors of Christ!"​

​

Amen.

Precious friend, please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified In Christ,
And In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!



God's Simple Will!

 

[uncle_mike]

You remind me of a self righteous pharisee. Keep it up my friend.. I will report you

Be my guest. Like I said, You are threatening me. I will report You to those in Your State.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I am not even talking about obeying the Law of Moses, only the commandments of Jesus. I guess You are not a friend of Jesus because You think His commands are the Old Law.

If your being obedient in order to stay saved (get to heaven)

Your under the law of moses

thats the fact.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Be my guest. Like I said, You are threatening me. I will report You to those in Your State.

reported.

good bye

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I am not even talking about obeying the Law of Moses, only the commandments of Jesus. I guess You are not a friend of Jesus because You think His commands are the Old Law.

mike just calm down

I realise your new here and you have all theese thoughts why things that's are being said to you are being allowed.

Then your believing people are not caring for your feelings.

This is not true.

People Do care for your feelings.

Whilst people may be coming as across and making you feel your not saved. This will always happen in This type of discussion.

It's best to Just rise above those thoughts every time you feel that way.

Especially Mike many people here also have this defence mechanism that they feal the same way as you do if truth be known.

But we both know your strong enough and big enough to overcome this mike.

I'm sure everlasting grace just wants the best for you

 

[uncle_mike]

If your being obedient in order to stay saved (get to heaven)

Your under the law of moses

thats the fact.

I never said anywhere or anything about losing salvation. I said Jesus friends are those who obey His commands. You said that is following the Law. I showed it is not. So You are taking a side of things that I never proclaimed.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

mike just calm down

I realise your new here and you have all theese thoughts why things that's are being said to you are being allowed.

Then your believing people are not caring for your feelings.

This is not true.

People Do care for your feelings.

Whilst people may be coming as across and making you feel your not saved. This will always happen in This type of discussion.

It's best to Just rise above those thoughts every time you feel that way.

Especially Mike many people here also have this defence mechanism that they deal the same way as you do if truth be known.

But we both know your strong enough and big enough to overcome this mike.

I'm sure everlasting grace just wants the best for you

I just want him to stop accusing me, and to listen what myself and others want to tell him without attacking us. and to set his pride to the side for a time.

 

[uncle_mike]

reported.

good bye

You think they will ban a government police officer?

 

[Magenta]

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Is the faith of Jesus Christ not enough?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I just want him to stop accusing me, and to listen what myself and others want to tell him without attacking us. and to set his pride to the side for a time.

give him some time to calm down he's new here. He thinks your judging him

 

[uncle_mike]

I just want him to stop accusing me, and to listen what myself and others want to tell him without attacking us. and to set his pride to the side for a time.

I did not accuse of You of anything. You accused me of having an ungodly mind and threatened me. You lie so much no wonder the Biblical truth is a blur to You.

 

[Magenta]

You think they will ban a government police officer?

Why would what you do for a living have any impact on what mod may or may not decide to do?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I never said anywhere or anything about losing salvation. I said Jesus friends are those who obey His commands. You said that is following the Law. I showed it is not. So You are taking a side of things that I never proclaimed.

so I can prove the situation here

I personally do not think it's possible to earn or keep salvation. But after reading Verse 14 I believe once we're saved we better be obeying His commands and if we do not we are not friends. And I believe only friends of Jesus go to Heaven. .

We BETTER OBEY
Only friend get to heaven

if we stop obey, we will not get to heaven

THATS WORKS

 

[uncle_mike]

Why would what you do for a living have any impact on what mod may or may not decide to do?

Because they know why we are here.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

You think they will ban a government ?

hmm.. Maybe this is the issue.

This chat room has rules. if you break them, you can be banned. it does not matter who you are.

 

[uncle_mike]

so I can prove the situation here



We BETTER OBEY
Only friend get to heaven

if we stop obey, we will not get to heaven

THATS WORKS

How is that works? You obey Christ and abide in Him and then He is able to produce fruit, which is the result of works. But abiding in Him is by obeying His command like He said to.