Why do so many people say they are saved by Jesus when, by their own admission,

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Thunderrr-mental

Thunderrr-mental

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Magenta said:
The thread was not made to be about them (the OP), but those who struggle. And then
those who struggle are maligned, and then essentially condemned for that struggle.

Do you think that is a fair way to deal with those new to the faith, and/or struggling?
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np I would like to know his true intentions to 😊
 
Bob-Carabbio

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HumbleBee said:
they don't even know if they are choosing to believe Jesus correctly or not?

Why don't they believe it is necessary to believe Jesus?
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People who are lost spiritually have no concept of being born again, since it's not anything they've experienced.

after all satan and all his folks believe in Jesus, but aren't "born again".

Being Born again STARTS with CONVICTION OF SIN by the Holy SPirit, which is also the foundation for saving Faith (God's WORD TO YOU).

WHen a person surrenders, and REPENTS of their SIN, then the Holuy SPirit will indwell, and open the person's eyes to the SPiritual kingdom of God. THEN they can start to learn of him, since before they weren't able to.
 
Thunderrr-mental

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Bob-Carabbio said:
People who are lost spiritually have no concept of being born again, since it's not anything they've experienced.

after all satan and all his folks believe in Jesus, but aren't "born again".

Being Born again STARTS with CONVICTION OF SIN by the Holy SPirit, which is also the foundation for saving Faith (God's WORD TO YOU).

WHen a person surrenders, and REPENTS of their SIN, then the Holuy SPirit will indwell, and open the person's eyes to the SPiritual kingdom of God. THEN they can start to learn of him, since before they weren't able to.
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would you say a softening of your heart is conviction of sin 😊
 
Blade

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HumbleBee said:
they don't even know if they are choosing to believe Jesus correctly or not?

Why don't they believe it is necessary to believe Jesus?
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Its already been asked :) but who are they and I'm guessing you believe in the correct one? Sis (Magenta) said it so much better lol..
 
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Magenta said:
How does not knowing if you are believing Jesus correctly equate to believing it is not necessary to believe Jesus?

Perhaps some are still in the process of working out their own salvation, with fear and trembling. <= Biblical.

How long was it after you repented and believed on the Lord Jesus before you were free of all fear and doubt?
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Know it is necessary to believe Jesus and correctly believing Jesus are two different things.
 
Magenta

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HumbleBee said:
Know it is necessary to believe Jesus and correctly believing Jesus are two different things.
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I already do know that. Your OP did not indicate that you know that.
 
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