Milchizedek

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Nehemiah6

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Who was Milchizedek??
That is written as Melchizedek, and Melchizedek was one of the appearances of Christ in the OT. His name means King of Peace and King of Righteousness. See the epistle to the Hebrews for details.
 

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So now we have one naysayer denying that Melchizedek is actually Christ. But the Bible says that He is (Heb 7:2-4): To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

1. Who other than Christ can legitimately be called "King of righteousness?
2. Who other than Christ can legitimately be called "King of peace"?
3. Who other than Christ had a supernatural conception and birth?
4. Who other than Christ has neither beginning of days nor end of life?
5. Who other that Christ is greater than Abraham?
6. Who other than Christ received tithes from Levi and the sons of Levi (through Abraham)?
7. Who other than Christ "abideth a priest continually"?
 

JaumeJ

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Who was Milchizedek??
He is the King of Righteousness as described in Genesis. He is the King of Peace as described in Genesis.

He is Jesus Yeshua.

Gen 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
 

selahsays

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Hebrews 5:5-6 So also Christ did not glorify himself in becoming a high priest, but was appointed by the one who said to him, "You are my Son, today I have begotten you"; as he says also in another place, "You are a priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek."

Psalm 110:4 The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind, "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek."

You cannot have a higher priest than Melchizedek, who was not born of woman but is eternal. He is the only one true “King of the Just“ and this is none other than Jesus Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords. IMG_5750.gif
 

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Mel was active in Palestine something like +/- 400 years prior to codifying
the covenant that Moses' people entered into with God per Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy; and as the covenant isn't retroactive
(Deut 5:2-4 & Gal 3:17) then none of the covenant's curses for non
compliance applied to him. (Rom 4:15 & Rom 5:12-13)

Now if none of the covenant's curses for non compliance applied to Mel, then
neither did they apply to the folks for whom his high priesthood ministered;
which at the time included Abraham (a.k.a. Abram)

Seeing as how Jesus' high priesthood is patterned after Mel's (Ps 110:4 &
Heb 5:1-10) then as it was for Mel and Abraham, so it is for Jesus and the
folks for whom he ministers.

The measure of immunity available to folks via the priesthood order of
Melchizedek is quite an advantage-- it's practically a license to steal, so to
speak --and I could only wish everybody knew about it because there are
folks out there whose slipshod compliance with the Ten Commandments has
them on a direct path toward a terrible destination.
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studentoftheword

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Interesting read

https://salemucccampbelltown.org/sa...w bible mentions a,Jerusalem or city of peace.

“Salem” Defined

Salem (say’luhm) is Hebrew for peace (similar roots to the more familiar Hebrew word “shalom”, Hebrew being the orginal language of the Old Testament). The Hebrew bible mentions a place called Salem in Genesis 14:8 with the king of Salem being Melchizedek (prounounced mel-kiz’uh-dek), who was the priest of God Most High. Salem geographically also can refer to the holy city of Jerusalem or city of peace.

Salem is mentioned with Zion (Jersualem) in Psalm 76 as the dwelling place of God. Psalm 76:1-3 reads:
In Judah God is known, his name is great in Israel.His abode has been established in Salem, his dwelling place in Zion.There he broke the flashing arrows, the shield, the sword, and the weapons of war.
Mechizedek and Salem are also mentioned in the New Testament in the Letter to the Hebrews 7:2:
This “King Melchizedek of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham as he was returning from defeating the kings and blessed him”; and to him Abraham apportioned “one-tenth of everything.” His name, in the first place, means “king of righteousness”; next he is also king of Salem, that is, “king of peace.”
Salem United Church of Christ (earlier The Reformed Church of Salem) began using the name “Salem” sometime in the late 1800’s. Today it is fitting that this congregation has the word Salem in its name as it strives to uphold the virtue of “peace” within its people and advocate for a peaceful world for all of God’s children and creation through its ministry and beliefs.
 

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For the record:


I for one, whole heartedly, resolutely, and in all honesty and a good
conscience; deny Melchizedek was a human manifestation of The Word prior
to The Word coming into the world as the flesh of John 1:14.


In other words: I strongly, and I seriously, doubt Melchizedek was a so-called
pre-incarnate Christ.


** It's been proven by experience that if an idea is repeated often enough,
widely enough, and loudly enough by people held in high esteem; and/or high
authority, that pretty soon the idea is accepted by the masses as fact without
thought or question. (a.k.a. the Asch Conformity Phenomenon)


A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong;
Gives it a superficial appearance of being right.
(Thomas Paine)
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p_rehbein

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Who was Milchizedek??

Melchizedek - Wikipedia

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In the Bible, Melchizedek , also transliterated Melchisedech or Malki Tzedek, was the king of Salem and priest of El Elyon (often translated as 'most high God'). He is first mentioned in Genesis 14:18–20, where he brings out bread and wine and then blesses Abram and El Elyon.

In Christianity, according to the Epistle to the Hebrews, Jesus Christ is identified as "High priest forever in the order of Melchizedek", and so Jesus assumes the role of High Priest once and for all. Chazalic literature – specifically Targum Jonathan, Targum Yerushalmi, and the Babylonian Talmud – presents his name (מלכי־צדק‎) as a nickname for Shem.[3]

Joseph Blenkinsopp has suggested that the story of Melchizedek is an informal insertion into the Genesis narration, possibly inserted in order to give validity to the priesthood and tithes connected with the Second Temple. It has also been conjectured that the suffix “-zedek” may have been or become a reference to a Canaanite deity worshipped in pre-Israelite Jerusalem.[4]: 56–60  An Ugaritic reference older than 12th century BCE to a god named Ṣaduq ('righteousness') has also been found,[5] a possible forerunner of Sydyk being included in personal names.
 

Aaron56

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Probably Shem.

He was no more Christ than we are Christ. Both of us, Melchizedek and believers, are Christ’s flesh and bones. He was “priest of God Most High” not “God Most High”. His example is used to show a legitimate priesthood of God before the advent of the Levitical priesthood. These priests were present at Sinai before the establishment of a priesthood of only 1/12 of the tribes.

The Book of the Jasher or The Book of the Upright, mentioned in scripture, includes a record of Abraham’s time with Melchizedek. It’s not cannon or course, more of an historical account.
 

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Probably Shem.

He was no more Christ than we are Christ. Both of us, Melchizedek and believers, are Christ’s flesh and bones. He was “priest of God Most High” not “God Most High”. His example is used to show a legitimate priesthood of God before the advent of the Levitical priesthood. These priests were present at Sinai before the establishment of a priesthood of only 1/12 of the tribes.

The Book of the Jasher or The Book of the Upright, mentioned in scripture, includes a record of Abraham’s time with Melchizedek. It’s not cannon or course, more of an historical account.
Shem doesn't qualify because he had a father named Noah and a mother.

Hebrews 7: 7 For this Melchiz′edek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him; 2 and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace. 3 He is without father or mother or genealogy, and has neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest for ever.
 

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Melchizedek was God's high priest. (Gen 14:18 & Heb 5:10) God's high
priests are not selected from among the gods, rather, they are selected from
among men. (Heb 5:1-5)

Now Mel is described in the book of Hebrews as a man with no parents, no
genealogy, no beginning, and no ending, i.e. he's described as both
immortal and eternal.

The catch is: that description isn't literal, rather, it's only a picture of Mel as
he appears on the pages of scripture: not as Christ, rather, as a type of
Christ, i.e. an allegory.

Types are useful for helping explain spiritual concepts that are not easily put
into simple words. For example: Isaac and Ishmael are useful for explaining
the place that the law of Moses has in the life of Christ's followers. (Gal
4:21-31) Adam is a type of Christ to help explain how the Lord's
righteousness is transferred to his followers. (Rom 5:12-21)

NOTE: Mel brought bread and wine out to celebrate Abraham's victory over
that awful Chedlorama person and the liberation of Sodom's hostages. The
Hebrew word for bread in that instance isn't limited to bakery products. Plus,
had Mel's bread been a forerunner of the Lord's last supper, the Hebrew
word for unleavened bread would've been appropriate instead of nondescript
bread.
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Aaron56

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Shem doesn't qualify because he had a father named Noah and a mother.

Hebrews 7: 7 For this Melchiz′edek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him; 2 and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace. 3 He is without father or mother or genealogy, and has neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest for ever.
Then Christ is disqualified because of God.

It’s not literal, Omega.

The writer is putting an end to the tradition of the exclusivity of Levitical priests, who could only be confirmed as priests after their genetic lineage is examined, and the order of Melchizedek, a greater order without lineage: all the Levites in Abraham tithed to this order.

4 Now consider how great this man was, to whom even the patriarch Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils. 5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham; 6 but he whose genealogy is not derived from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 Now beyond all contradiction the lesser is blessed by the better. 8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives. 9 Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, 10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.

Immediately after this, the writer expounds upon the need for a new priesthood under the new covenant.