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EndlessGrace
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Do you think this grieves the Holy Spirit? Do you think it's a sin? Sometimes I smoke weed and it makes me think about God and the world, rather than becoming mindless.
I used to smoke weed. I stopped mainly because I just got bored with it (that and i'm intensely paranoid). I don't think there's anything wrong with doing it. In fact, I support legalization.
from a "christian perspective" its as wrong as getting drunk I suppose. but that hasn't stopped most "christians" that I know =P
I've never used drugs. Maybe I should do it once for the experience.
In fact, the more I smoked weed the more I realized that there was a creator, someone who hasn't smoked weed will not understand this...
The Greek word "pharmakia" literally means "drugs", and appears five times in the New Testament: in Gal 5:20, Rev 9:21, 18:23, 21:8, and 22:15. "Pharmakia" is translated into our English Bible as either "witchcraft" or "sorceries". We also get our English word "pharmacy" from the Greek word "pharmakia".
In each of the above five passages, "pharmakia", or "drugs" is listed as a work of the flesh of man as opposed to the Spirit of God working in us.
For example, Gal 5:16-23 in the KJV:
16 "[This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.The King James Bible translators translated "pharmakia" as "witchcraft", because almost no one but witches and sorcerers used drugs 400 years ago. Drugs were most commonly used in pagan worship to hallucinate and to try to get in touch with evil spirits.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft ("pharmakia" or drug use), hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance (self control) : against such there is no law."
This can be serious stuff! In Rev. 21:8, God says that people who are continually characterized by drug use will have no part in the Kingdom of God.
I would recommend learning how to walk in the Spirit and studying the New Testament Epistles to the Churches (Romans to Jude).
As we grow in grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, we will find ourselves wanting to do things that please God.
Look again at Gal 5:22 & 23, "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering (patience), gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance (self control)"
Isn't that what the whole world is looking for? It's automatic, when we walk in the Spirit!
The Christian life is a "supernatural" life, and we cannot please God in our own energy. We can only please God by allowing Him to work THROUGH us.
2291: The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.
2211: The political community has a duty to honor the family, to assist it, and to ensure especially:
F. -The protection of security and health, especially with respect to dangers like drugs, pornography, alcoholism, etc..
Almost all drugs sold on the street have been passed down by some sadistic, murderous, psychotic gang member and your supporting his underground black market business. Someone could've gotten murdered over that marijuana your smoking.
I would definetly search out the scriptures myself and see what the word of God says about getting wasted, the bible will answer all your questions if you really want to know the truth, pray on it.
1Thes 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
I got it from a friend who grew it himself, so I didn't have to worry about that. He ended up getting busted but still =P
I support legalization so that you DONT have to buy it from psychotic mexican cartel members. People are always gonna smoke it, so legalizing it will not only generate revenue, but allow us to regulate it, taking away the cartel's business.
endlessgrace, I used to smoke weed and I will tell you my convictions and my experience with it.
In my opinion and experience, there was nothing wrong about smoking weed in the sense that it never damaged my ability to think and reason or affected my body in any way. In fact, the more I smoked weed the more I realized that there was a creator, someone who hasn't smoked weed will not understand this but I was very grateful for God creating cannabis. When I smoked I would be relaxed, now of course I don't need weed to be relaxed, but through something that God created He blessed me by making very relaxed and enjoying music, including worship music, at a deeper level than I could think.
But then again I knew that most of society looks at it as something that is wrong, including my parents. And so that is when I started to ask the Holy Spirit for guidance and to tell me if it pleased Him if I did it and to show me that it was wrong, and He surely answered. He answered me with a thought.
Jesus Christ came to earth, and while He was here He not only fulfilled the earthly law, but He fulfilled the heavenly law with perfection and in obedience to the Father always. If Christ so did this and we call ourselves His followers, then who are we to not submit to the law? Cannabis is illegal under federal law in all the country, even if it is available for medical patients they are still transgressing the law under federal.
Now your testimony, most people like I said see cannabis as impure, so why would you want to be a stumbling block to someone else? If you truly love your brothers in Christ you will stop smoking. I truly understand that it is something that you really really enjoy, and in my opinion there is nothing morally wrong against it, there is nothing spiritually wrong against it either because God was able to reach me and speak to me while I consumed it. Most of the time I consumed it I was thinking about Him.
But do it because of your love for Christ, this conviction is not exclusive to me. It applies to all of us. So if you really want to please God, ask Him to make you stop by His power.
Do you think this grieves the Holy Spirit? Do you think it's a sin? Sometimes I smoke weed and it makes me think about God and the world, rather than becoming mindless.