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i just finished this mini series, just 3 short ones..
it covers the topic of Led by The Holy Spirit quite beautifully.
Bob covers what the word LED really means, and reveals in the scripture the Holy's Spirit's very powerful and Sovereign role in brining us Home to God.
hope you get a chance to listen (start at the bottom) just check out the program descriptions
Led by the Spirit Radio Broadcasts
[SIZE=+1]Romans 8:12-17; [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Being Led by the Spirit[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, October 25, 2010[/SIZE]
This program shows that being led by the Spirit is about God carrying true believers through adoption as Sons unto ultimate glorification. It is not about mystical revelations, guidance, or elitism.MP3 (duration 00:25:35)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 2[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, January 1, 2007[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 showing that all true Christians are led by the Spirit. We refute false elitist interpretations that claim only certain Christians know how to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit.MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 1[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, December 25, 2006[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 in the light of its context in Romans 8. We show that being led by the Spirit means being carried to glory, not "given subjective revelation."MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
THESE SERMONS ARE GREAT COMFORT TO US CHRISTIANS.
z
i just finished this mini series, just 3 short ones..
it covers the topic of Led by The Holy Spirit quite beautifully.
Bob covers what the word LED really means, and reveals in the scripture the Holy's Spirit's very powerful and Sovereign role in brining us Home to God.
hope you get a chance to listen (start at the bottom) just check out the program descriptions
Led by the Spirit Radio Broadcasts
[SIZE=+1]Romans 8:12-17; [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Being Led by the Spirit[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, October 25, 2010[/SIZE]
This program shows that being led by the Spirit is about God carrying true believers through adoption as Sons unto ultimate glorification. It is not about mystical revelations, guidance, or elitism.MP3 (duration 00:25:35)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 2[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, January 1, 2007[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 showing that all true Christians are led by the Spirit. We refute false elitist interpretations that claim only certain Christians know how to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit.MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 1[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, December 25, 2006[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 in the light of its context in Romans 8. We show that being led by the Spirit means being carried to glory, not "given subjective revelation."MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
THESE SERMONS ARE GREAT COMFORT TO US CHRISTIANS.
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oh. so what some link you found did, and stated about bob dewaay being a "calvinist" causes you to
1) automatically assume he is
2) automatically assume i am
3) automatically assume the radio interview was worthless
4) automatically assume when the name calvin comes up somebody grows horns
may i see the "link" that you mentioned?
is there any "label" you allow to be loosley affliiated with you so i might know what you believe?
1) automatically assume he is
2) automatically assume i am
3) automatically assume the radio interview was worthless
4) automatically assume when the name calvin comes up somebody grows horns
may i see the "link" that you mentioned?
is there any "label" you allow to be loosley affliiated with you so i might know what you believe?
So you really have no scriptural proof that angels were a creation apart from man, at least from the
accounting of Creation in Gen 1 & 2. Is it fair to say then, that what you believe about angels and
their creation is something you were taught by another, not something you have proved conclusively
for yourself by your own rightful dividing of the Word. I am not criticising you for i too was one such as
you, until i proved it for myself (it took me about 3yrs or so to convince myself that Adam was the
devil). The bottom line is this: you do not believe the Creation Account is complete, since you
believe He left out the part about angel creation. And for what reason God would do this is a question i
have already asked you to explain.
Which testimony is greater: God or man? Did not GOD say that the heavens and earth were finished
and all their hosts (Gen2:1-2), but still made not mention of angels? Why then do you believe
otherwise?? I suggest you start anew from the Beginning, and only believe what is written, not
what men say it should say. You will find the Truth, for it is simple and God does not wish to hide from
anyone.
SInce you obviously think i am deceived about Adam, would you help a lost brother out by providing
me with your proof that angels were not man glorified in the Beginning: or, rather, that Adam is not
the first angel Lucifer.
SS
Since you are so convinced angels have nothing to do with being human, prove it to me. I do not wish
to be deceived, if it is the case that i am. But consider this:
1)their is already one in the Garden who has earned the reputation of being as a serpent and being
most subtle, even before the First Sin. (is not iniquity already in the Garden?, or how was the
reputation earned?)
2) the woman spoke the untruth - Don't Touch, failed to name the 'forbidden tree', and spoke as
if it were the only one in the center of the Garden, when in fact there are two (Gen2:9).
3) Adam was beside Eve when she picked and ate the forbidden fruit, yet he made no attempt to stop
her.
4) the exclusion of the serpent from any part in the Savor, is the reason Mary had to be a virgin!!!!
becasue man was the exclusion!!!!!
5) the curse upon the serpent must be the curse of sin all human are born with, because there is no
such curse found in the judgment upon Adam
6) since it is impossible to deceive one who knows the absolute Truth, then, because Eve was deceived,
it must be true that she did not know the absolute Truth, but the perverted one she regurgitated.
7) Eve is not the first liar, so her untruth is not a lie, but a lie she was told and believed.
8) Adam looked like the Lord GOD in both image (man) and likeness (light) (EZ1:26-28) ; so, coould
there be a greater?
point 1: makes a few assumptions. assumption 1: you assume that the snake was made as a cunning beast. when in fact the scripture is simply giving a description of this particular snake and saying it is mor cunning than any beast that God had made.
assumption 2: You assume that Eve and Adam were the first sinners when they are actually the first human sinners. Satan sinned before Adam and Eve. sin originated in heaven not earth.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Lucifer was a created angel who was with god but he began to look at the beauty that he had and instead of giving glory to the one who Crated him he began to exalt himself.
who was the serpent that tempted Eve?
Answer: Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Satan used the serpent to deceive Eve after he was cast out of heaven.
Point 2:
you argue from lack of mention, never a good or wise move. Eve is replying to the subject that the snake/satan has brought up. thus Eves answer. The tree of life is not the issue here clearly seen by the words of the snake and the answer of Eve. thus the subject is the point of discussion here. the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Point 3:
You say that Adam was right there with her when she was tempted. this is also an assumption. the verse says:
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Now the "with her" statement you say means that Adam stood there while the snake tempted. but the intended meaning is that Adam was in the garden with her, not right next to her. how can we tell which one?
First the snake talks to Eve and Eve talks to the snake. so seems like Adam is not there during conversation.
2nd:
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife,
Adam did not hear the snake but listened to Eve so it was Eve that told Adam not the snake.
3rd
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Adam was not deceived thus he was not with Eve and the snake but when eve was deceived then she came and gave to Adam.
note real sure what you are getting at with points 4-8. although
but in short a few mentions. Adam and Eve were cursed with death to come. which would have come instantly had not Jesus been the promised saviour.
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Eve is not the first liar for Satan was and thus Christ called him:
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
this is just a few points I did not get your point 4 and have run out of time.
Hope this helps God bless all and may we grow in the grace of Jesus Christ amen.
assumption 2: You assume that Eve and Adam were the first sinners when they are actually the first human sinners. Satan sinned before Adam and Eve. sin originated in heaven not earth.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Lucifer was a created angel who was with god but he began to look at the beauty that he had and instead of giving glory to the one who Crated him he began to exalt himself.
who was the serpent that tempted Eve?
Answer: Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Satan used the serpent to deceive Eve after he was cast out of heaven.
Point 2:
you argue from lack of mention, never a good or wise move. Eve is replying to the subject that the snake/satan has brought up. thus Eves answer. The tree of life is not the issue here clearly seen by the words of the snake and the answer of Eve. thus the subject is the point of discussion here. the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Point 3:
You say that Adam was right there with her when she was tempted. this is also an assumption. the verse says:
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Now the "with her" statement you say means that Adam stood there while the snake tempted. but the intended meaning is that Adam was in the garden with her, not right next to her. how can we tell which one?
First the snake talks to Eve and Eve talks to the snake. so seems like Adam is not there during conversation.
2nd:
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife,
Adam did not hear the snake but listened to Eve so it was Eve that told Adam not the snake.
3rd
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Adam was not deceived thus he was not with Eve and the snake but when eve was deceived then she came and gave to Adam.
note real sure what you are getting at with points 4-8. although
but in short a few mentions. Adam and Eve were cursed with death to come. which would have come instantly had not Jesus been the promised saviour.
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Eve is not the first liar for Satan was and thus Christ called him:
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
this is just a few points I did not get your point 4 and have run out of time.
Hope this helps God bless all and may we grow in the grace of Jesus Christ amen.
There are some who think they can live in both worlds, remaining in Egypt while heading to the Promised Land; loving this world and being a disciple of Jesus Christ at the same time. It cannot happen. You cannot love this world and Jesus Christ at the same time. You cannot follow both at the same time. You must choose who you will serve. Ask the Lord to give us an undivided heart.
If you won't deny your self/flesh, take up your cross and follow Jesus, you cannot be His disciple. You cannot serve 2 masters. If you follow your flesh you will die. But if by the Spirit you mortify your flesh, you will live.
Only those who DO the will of God are the Lord's brethren. Only those who long for a better country will have God unashamed to be called their God. Only those who hear and do the Word of God will remain after the flood comes. Only those who hear the voice of Jesus and follow Him are His sheep. Only those who cease being the intimate friend of this world can be the friend of God. Only those who reject the table of demons will eat at the table of God.
If you won't deny your self/flesh, take up your cross and follow Jesus, you cannot be His disciple. You cannot serve 2 masters. If you follow your flesh you will die. But if by the Spirit you mortify your flesh, you will live.
Only those who DO the will of God are the Lord's brethren. Only those who long for a better country will have God unashamed to be called their God. Only those who hear and do the Word of God will remain after the flood comes. Only those who hear the voice of Jesus and follow Him are His sheep. Only those who cease being the intimate friend of this world can be the friend of God. Only those who reject the table of demons will eat at the table of God.
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Love always hopes, love always forgive, love always endures, love is not jealous, love does not remain angry, love is the future and God is love. Many preachers have changed this one concept of the gospel of Christ to the gospel of prosperity which only profits the flesh. The entire purpose of salvation is for us to love one another. Walk in love and you will be free from sin.
We only have one chance to give Jesus our love and obedience here in this life. 80yrs give or take a few to serve Him in this life. This life is the only chance you will ever get to love Jesus through pain, to obey by faith, to trust without full understanding, to war against sin, to love your enemy ect... You are now able to give Jesus a gift in this life that you will never be able to give Him the rest of eternity. In the age to come there will be now pain. We will know as we are known. We will serve Jesus for all eternity, but in this life only can we give Him our lives, fragile as they may be.
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