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Humans have only started to explore the within cosmos. Any human stating to be in communication with something beyond it would just be in their imagination.
 
Either the universe is self-existent and eternal, or God is self-existent and eternal.
I believe that God is self-existent and eternal . . .

John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. ~KJV
 
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BonnieClaire said:
Either the universe is self-existent and eternal, or God is self-existent and eternal.
I believe that God is self-existent and eternal . . .

John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. ~KJV
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Beliefs are not facts. Fact is humans have only started to explore the cosmos. Your just quoting other humans.
 
Serk said:
Humans have only started to explore the within cosmos. Any human stating to be in communication with something beyond it would just be in their imagination.
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That's an assumption based solely upon anecdotal evidence stemming from your experience. (IOW too small of a sample to form an accurate analysis)

If I claim to have a discussion with my son or spouse you will likely concede the validity of my claim even though neither has come into contact with you and likely will never do so.

However when I claim to have a discussion with my Creator you balk. That's because you are desperate to have a situation where that scene doesn't happen because if my assertions are true then the conclusion is that you are in trouble. And your fears of that being true are justifiable.
However, you can't argue your way out of the path of an oncoming train. You must physically move. I suggest you do so.
 
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JohnDB said:
That's an assumption based solely upon anecdotal evidence stemming from your experience. (IOW too small of a sample to form an accurate analysis)

If I claim to have a discussion with my son or spouse you will likely concede the validity of my claim even though neither has come into contact with you and likely will never do so.

However when I claim to have a discussion with my Creator you balk. That's because you are desperate to have a situation where that scene doesn't happen because if my assertions are true then the conclusion is that you are in trouble. And your fears of that being true are justifiable.
However, you can't argue your way out of the path of an oncoming train. You must physically move. I suggest you do so.
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Not an assumption in the slightest. Humans can only explore within the cosmos and what we have explored of it is minuscule. Anyone telling you anything beyond is simply in their imagination.
 
Cameron143 said:
I'm encouraged that you are trying to disprove the existence of God. You might just find Him in the process.
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I encourage you to acknowledge how little you know what exists within the cosmos. That’s why you don’t know anything more.
 
Serk said:
I encourage you to acknowledge how little you know what exists within the cosmos. That’s why you don’t know anything more.
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So my acknowledgement will bring me knowledge? Is this the kind of science you employ?
 
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Serk said:
Humans have only started to explore the within cosmos. Any human stating to be in communication with something beyond it would just be in their imagination.
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Unless that "something beyond" actually exists independently of humans, which God does.

If you limit your belief to things discoverable by science, then you must categorically reject many things that cannot be measured or observed. When science can test whether your mother loves you, then it might have something valid to say about God.
 
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Serk said:
Not an assumption in the slightest. Humans can only explore within the cosmos and what we have explored of it is minuscule. Anyone telling you anything beyond is simply in their imagination.
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Again you are making arguments trying to stop the train from hitting you....

Try a different argument.
 
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Cameron143 said:
So I am my own source of knowledge?
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Your source of knowledge is based on evidence, you have little knowledge of what exists within the cosmos. Anyone telling you something beyond the cosmos is only telling you their figment.
 
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