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I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. 
So who really are they? Thanks.
So who really are they? Thanks.
Acts 7:51-58
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
I believe they are also spoken of in Revelation.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
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there's enemies God and there enemies God.
Where talking about adults who should know better, where not talking about kids born into sin here, who generally get taught right from wrong, and learn the letter of the law before coming saved.
My wife has called me a Hitler many times just for laying down the law.
But anyhow I take it as a rebuke to be more kind in accepting people's faults.
But you said Isreal would be a better place without Arabs,
And now you want me to love my enemy, after you clearly don't.
Honestly brother, you should accept this and put your statement right.
Where talking about adults who should know better, where not talking about kids born into sin here, who generally get taught right from wrong, and learn the letter of the law before coming saved.
My wife has called me a Hitler many times just for laying down the law.
But anyhow I take it as a rebuke to be more kind in accepting people's faults.
But you said Isreal would be a better place without Arabs,
And now you want me to love my enemy, after you clearly don't.
Honestly brother, you should accept this and put your statement right.
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. So who really are they? Thanks.
So who really are they? Thanks.
Im sorry for your bad experience there. I never went to Israel but I assume there are people of all kinds here, some more friendly some less. Like everywhere else.
Israel is about 2 percent Christian only and most of them are Arabs so they likely suffer some level of discrimination. Im also an ethnic and religious minority in my country so I emphatize with them.
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Even when the nation of Israel is not accepting Jesus Christ as messiah. And showing themselves as enemy of Him. This nation is still Gods choosen Nation, which will in Future accept Jesus as Messiah. Amd Jesus will rule from Jerusalem as King of Israel. So, as children of God it is not wise, if we treat Israel as enemy. Paul wrote in Romans chapter 9-11 something about this issue.
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well it's long story, and once a time the only tribe left in Isreal was Judha. Theres also the fact many raptured in the head beliefs don't take into account that a lot of prophecies in revaluation has more than likely happened.
Theres also the fact no matter what you believe people will believe differently.
So at the end of the day it gets dark.
From darkness to daylight the anti Christ probably gets stronger because the darkness has never understood the light.
So I've just lit a candle and set my frankincense defuser of.
Today's been an eventful day, i got stuck have way up a hill with a trailer full of wood with no where to turn. A Hindu with a red dot on his head came to my rescue and I was thankful for the Arabs 😂.
Theres also the fact no matter what you believe people will believe differently.
So at the end of the day it gets dark.
From darkness to daylight the anti Christ probably gets stronger because the darkness has never understood the light.
So I've just lit a candle and set my frankincense defuser of.
Today's been an eventful day, i got stuck have way up a hill with a trailer full of wood with no where to turn. A Hindu with a red dot on his head came to my rescue and I was thankful for the Arabs 😂.
There is no "obsession" with Israel. However, if you are a Bible-believing Christian, you need to know God's plan not only for the Church (which includes both redeemed Jews and Gentiles) but also God's plan for redeemed and restored Israel (the twelve tribes) under Christ.
Unfortunately too many Christians have not been shown this plan, and do not understand that the Abrahamic Covenant has not been completely fulfilled as yet. Paul warns Christians to not be "high-minded" about unbelieving Jews, since one day (he says) "All Israel shall be saved". And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written [in the OT], There shall come out of Sion [Jerusalem] the Deliverer [the Lord Jesus Christ], and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob [the twelve tribes of Israel]: (Rom 11:26) Of course he is not including unbelieving Jews in that statement. "All Israel" means every one of the twelve tribes of Israel.
But people will say "What about the ten "lost tribes"? Well they are not "lost" to God therefore He gives us a glimpse of "all Israel" in Revelation 7 and 14. Those 144,000 redeemed Jews are from the twelve tribes. and that prophecy is for the future. Then in Ezekiel 48 God gives us a list of the twelve tribes given their allotted portions of land in greater Israel (also in the future).
Modern Israel DOES NOT represent "believing Israel", even though God wants every Jew to be saved. Also "Messianic Jews" (believers in Yeshua ha Mashiach) in Israel are violating New Testament principles by segregating themselves from Gentile churches. Regardless of all this, Christians need to know what the Bible says, and what will be in the future under Christ.
Unfortunately too many Christians have not been shown this plan, and do not understand that the Abrahamic Covenant has not been completely fulfilled as yet. Paul warns Christians to not be "high-minded" about unbelieving Jews, since one day (he says) "All Israel shall be saved". And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written [in the OT], There shall come out of Sion [Jerusalem] the Deliverer [the Lord Jesus Christ], and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob [the twelve tribes of Israel]: (Rom 11:26) Of course he is not including unbelieving Jews in that statement. "All Israel" means every one of the twelve tribes of Israel.
But people will say "What about the ten "lost tribes"? Well they are not "lost" to God therefore He gives us a glimpse of "all Israel" in Revelation 7 and 14. Those 144,000 redeemed Jews are from the twelve tribes. and that prophecy is for the future. Then in Ezekiel 48 God gives us a list of the twelve tribes given their allotted portions of land in greater Israel (also in the future).
Modern Israel DOES NOT represent "believing Israel", even though God wants every Jew to be saved. Also "Messianic Jews" (believers in Yeshua ha Mashiach) in Israel are violating New Testament principles by segregating themselves from Gentile churches. Regardless of all this, Christians need to know what the Bible says, and what will be in the future under Christ.
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I read "84% of Christians were satisfied with life in Israel" I also read some have been spit on but lol how do "we" Christian's treat those that do not believe in Jesus or other denominations? Really? We are known for tossing our own under the buss so fast. Happens here allot.
But who are we to tell Israel who their GOD really is. Then go back in history and look what we "Christians" did to them. My first word would be sorry forgive us.
As I pray for Israel I pray the same for every nation. Any person on this planet that does not believe in trust in Jesus Christ are lost. You have to wonder about those gentiles (other nations) get saved yet still called gentiles? There is Christ the vine and we are the branches no one knows what branch was original vs grafted in. We read as Isaac was you are the children of promise. We are in God and God is in us. Even after God saved Israel (oh allot huh) told them if there is any stranger living with you treat them as if they were born of you.
So just who are you?
But who are we to tell Israel who their GOD really is. Then go back in history and look what we "Christians" did to them. My first word would be sorry forgive us.
As I pray for Israel I pray the same for every nation. Any person on this planet that does not believe in trust in Jesus Christ are lost. You have to wonder about those gentiles (other nations) get saved yet still called gentiles? There is Christ the vine and we are the branches no one knows what branch was original vs grafted in. We read as Isaac was you are the children of promise. We are in God and God is in us. Even after God saved Israel (oh allot huh) told them if there is any stranger living with you treat them as if they were born of you.
So just who are you?
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I read "84% of Christians were satisfied with life in Israel" I also read some have been spit on but lol how do "we" Christian's treat those that do not believe in Jesus or other denominations? Really? We are known for tossing our own under the buss so fast. Happens here allot.
But who are we to tell Israel who their GOD really is. Then go back in history and look what we "Christians" did to them. My first word would be sorry forgive us.
As I pray for Israel I pray the same for every nation. Any person on this planet that does not believe in trust in Jesus Christ are lost. You have to wonder about those gentiles (other nations) get saved yet still called gentiles? There is Christ the vine and we are the branches no one knows what branch was original vs grafted in. We read as Isaac was you are the children of promise. We are in God and God is in us. Even after God saved Israel (oh allot huh) told them if there is any stranger living with you treat them as if they were born of you.
So just who are you?
But who are we to tell Israel who their GOD really is. Then go back in history and look what we "Christians" did to them. My first word would be sorry forgive us.
As I pray for Israel I pray the same for every nation. Any person on this planet that does not believe in trust in Jesus Christ are lost. You have to wonder about those gentiles (other nations) get saved yet still called gentiles? There is Christ the vine and we are the branches no one knows what branch was original vs grafted in. We read as Isaac was you are the children of promise. We are in God and God is in us. Even after God saved Israel (oh allot huh) told them if there is any stranger living with you treat them as if they were born of you.
So just who are you?
Secondly the Christians, who slaughtered everyone where catholics, who slaughtered pagans by the millions.
Hardly Christians
No true Christian supports war or gets brainwashed into thinking war is necessary.
Only the poor Christians who get brainwashed by Zionists, think war is necessary, and sadly become Zionists themselves.
Jesus put an end to war at the cross.
The sword that Jesus delivered was one, to wage war not against flesh and blood but the spiritual forces of wickedness
Those that don't, will beat there swords into the plough shares which they do. But that sword is the word
The prophecy is that first would come the Jews to be saved by the hebrews. Probably a limited amount accepted Christ.
So God then chose the gentiles, and more gentiles have been saved, because they welcomed Christ.
so now we as Christians must reframe from blood shed because the blood was spilt at the cross for all mankind.
and we .must wage war, against the rulers, for going to war, and making Christians become Zionists.
But we must wage war not by the rod of iron but by the sword of the spirit, which is the word.👍