Ask away.. I am willing to answer any question any about my biblical beliefs

[zone]

I got ya, I guess you have to go back and read the contexts of that convo, I do not want to rehash it.

However you are right Kaballah is dangerous, as well as the sacred name cult. Although I didnt realize they were connected.

sure thing.

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[4runner]

sure thing.

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Please keep you lies, and witch huts elsewhere, please, and thank you.

Deadflesh this is why I can satan a she.

 

[zone]

Please keep you lies, and witch huts elsewhere, please, and thank you.

Deadflesh this is why I can satan a she.

SO sorry 4runner.
you promote(D) that garbage - i'll keep it checked.
like it or not, K?

you can call me satan all day long - doesn't change a single thing about what you are pushing - poison.

 

[4runner]

SO sorry 4runner.
you promote(D) that garbage - i'll keep it checked.
like it or not, K?

you can call me satan all day long - doesn't change a single thing about what you are pushing - poison.

The only one promoting garbage, and or pushing poison is you. you are corrupt from the inside out, everything you do or say is poison.

 

[zone]

The only one promoting garbage, and or pushing poison is you. you are corrupt from the inside out, everything you do or say is poison.

i'm glad YOU feel that way.

just keeping your stuff front and CENTER(ing prayer)

who made YOU or Engle the Holy Spirit?

you're a mystic Dominionist preaching some other christ and some other gospel << SIN SIN SIN

Lou Engle Preaches Seven Mountains Dominionism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvSbmv3r0X4

question:
is it ZONE or 4runner who is pushing the Five-Fold heretics; violent dominionism; and mystic practises on the church?

 

[4runner]

i'm glad YOU feel that way.

just keeping your stuff front and CENTER(ing prayer)



question:
is it ZONE or 4runner who is pushing the Five-Fold heretics; violent dominionism; and mystic practises on the church?

Well I am not violent or a dominionist, I certainly do not believe in any type of mysticism, and the 5 fold ministry is biblical. So I guess that would be you.

You are a liar, a false accuser of the brethren, and a minister of satan.

 

[zone]

Well I am not violent or a dominionist, I certainly do not believe in any type of mysticism, and the 5 fold ministry is biblical. So I guess that would be you..

easy to prove from your own posts you're lying about the first two, and just heretical about the last one.

You are a liar, a false accuser of the brethren, and a minister of satan.

well...

1) i'll show that its you who is lying... it's easy ; anybody with a functioning memory can do it.

2) you're not among "the brethren" - but i know your gang...we'll look at them too.

later.

 

[4runner]

easy to prove from your own posts you're lying about the first two, and just heretical about the last one.



well...

1) i'll show that its you who is lying... it's easy ; anybody with a functioning memory can do it.

2) you're not among "the brethren" - but i know your gang...we'll look at them too.

later.

Coming in here acting like you do is not only disrespectful to me, but to everyone who is trying to have, a honest, intelligent conversion about the word. Moreover you disrespect yourself. you have given yourself over to all type of depravity of the flesh. You are a accuser of the brethren, and minister of satan.

For your own sack take some time to find who you really are, and who you are really serving. It is a fearful thing to stand before a jealous God.

 

[4runner]

God has not called us to be like those around us. He has called us to be like Himself.

 

[4runner]

Some think that because satan knows & twists Scripture, Scripture is therefore our enemy. Not so. When satan quoted Scripture to Jesus, the conversation went like this: satan--"It is written..." Jesus--"It is ALSO written..."

 

[4runner]

The same Spirit who preached RIGHTEOUSNESS through Noah preaches today, and those who love sin still mock the preacher and hold onto their sin. They have a form of godliness denying the power of a holy, overcoming life. They profess to know God but in works deny Him.

 

[shroom2]

What makes one a "minister of satan"? Promoting false doctrine? Then you're both guilty. All of us are, to some degree.

Does that help?

 

[Jumpy]

Can God hear an unsaved persons prayer (not the prayer of salvation.)

 

[4runner]

What makes one a "minister of satan"? Promoting false doctrine? Then you're both guilty. All of us are, to some degree.

Does that help?

No a minister of Satan according to 2nd Corinthians 11 teaches a false Jesus, a false Holy Spirit, and a false gospel. Zone does all of this. What more is she attacks the things of God and those that trust in him for their Salvation.

That being said, I agree that none of us are 100% in our doctrine, but as long as we have a heart for God, and want to know the truth judging everything we hear with what God's word actually teaches we are good.

I believe you do want to know the true God, and His Salvation. However there are some subjects that you do not want to hear the truth on, and openly oppose the clear teaching of scripture on said subjects.

 

[4runner]

Can God hear an unsaved persons prayer (not the prayer of salvation.)

God ''can' hear anything. i think the question is will He respond to it? I think the answer would be no.

Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

1st Peter 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

 

[shroom2]

No a minister of Satan according to 2nd Corinthians 11 teaches a false Jesus, a false Holy Spirit, and a false gospel. Zone does all of this. What more is she attacks the things of God and those that trust in him for their Salvation.

That being said, I agree that none of us are 100% in our doctrine, but as long as we have a heart for God, and want to know the truth judging everything we hear with what God's word actually teaches we are good.

I believe zone has a heart for God, as do you. Zone can be hard to take because of her bluntness and extreme sarcasm. You come across as "holier than thou" and are convinced you are right and whoever disagrees with you is wrong. I disagree with some of what both of you see as truth.

I believe you do want to know the true God, and His Salvation.

That's nice. I think the same about you. And zone.

However there are some subjects that you do not want to hear the truth on, and openly oppose the clear teaching of scripture on said subjects.

I disagree with you on some (probably many) issues. You telling me I am wrong does not mean I am wrong. We all (even you) need to entertain the possibility that we could be wrong on some things. You present what you believe as the "clear teaching of scripture". So do I. So does zone.

So here we are.

 

[4runner]

I disagree with you on some (probably many) issues. You telling me I am wrong does not mean I am wrong.

The fact that you oppose the clear teaching of scripture makes you wrong.

I am not going to debate the pretrib rapture with you here, there are multiple threads were we can do that. Beside I have already shown you what the bible says on the subject, that is all I can do for you.

If you have any question feel free to ask them. If you just want to argue, dont bother.

 

[damombomb]

We need to choose this day,are we gonna serve God or mammon? Do we believe what the world says,computer,books by,google.com.
Or do we want to believe Gods word as face value.
Sooner or later somebody,s gonna start studing the bible!
Runner trying to minister to lost, mind his own business, why everyone attack him for no reason?

 

[shroom2]

The fact that you oppose the clear teaching of scripture makes you wrong.

I am not going to debate the pretrib rapture with you here, there are multiple threads were we can do that. Beside I have already shown you what the bible says on the subject, that is all I can do for you.

As I said, "holier that thou". I am not looking for you to "do" anything for me. You showed me "clear teaching" on what -you- think the bible says, and assume your understanding is inerrant.

It isn't.

 

[4runner]

As I said, "holier that thou". I am not looking for you to "do" anything for me. You showed me "clear teaching" on what -you- think the bible says, and assume your understanding is inerrant.

It isn't.

I have given plenty of biblical proof, that not only is the post trib view obvious, but that all other views are biblically impossible. Either you believe in the pretrib rapture or you believe God's word, you can not do both. God's word tells us that the second coming is after the tribulation, that the resurrection of the just, as well as the rapture of the living saints, are both at the second coming. It tells us that the first resurrection is at the end of the tribulation and that the rapture comes after the resurrection. Further more the Bible tells us that the rapture is at the last trump and on the last day. We are also told for our need to endure until the very end.

So for you to continue to hold onto the pretrib view, you must insist that immediately after the tribulation actually means right before it starts, that the coming of Christ isn't really His actual coming. You also have to say that the first resurrection is not really the first resurrection, that the last trump isn't really the last trump, and that the same day means seven years apart. Sounds funny when put that way, but believe or not there are those that teach just that, when confronted with the truth.

Call me crazy but I believe the Bible means what it says. When it says immediately after the tribulation, I believe it. When it says first resurrection, I believe it is talking about the first resurrection. When it says the last trump, I believe there will be no more trumpets sounded after that one. When the Bible says the rapture is on the same day as the second coming and that Jesus does not return until after the tribulation, I have no choice but to take God's word for it.

So why is the pretrib view taught, why is the church so deceived? What will happen to the preacher, pastor, and teachers that continue to deceive God's people? The pretrib rapture is taught because that is what people want to hear. It is what tickles their ears. No one wants to stand firm for God any more.
2nd Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lust they shall heap together teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn their ears from the truth, and unto fables.
Yet the truth is we ought to stand firm for Christ in the face of all adversity, and overcome evil with good. We were never promised that we would avoid hardships, or even persecutions. Just the opposite, we are told we will have to go through many trials, tribulations, and persecutions. We are commanded by Jesus to be faithful even unto death.
John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that ye might have peace. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those thing which thou shall suffer: behold the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that you may be tried, and you shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.