MYSTERY, BABYLON

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eternally-gratefull

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The issue is not WHO, the issue is you changing the words of scripture to suit your dispology.

Where does it say His feet will LAND?
Wow. your going to reject a whole passage which clearly shows a future in jerusalem just because of one word? Who care if he lands or walk there. He is there. And he does what the prophesy states. which you evidently deny


My my we are touchy aren't we?

You still think a husband is a whore. or will you admit the whore is the prostitute the husband sleeps with??
 
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Wow. your going to reject a whole passage which clearly shows a future in jerusalem just because of one word? Who care if he lands or walk there. He is there. And he does what the prophesy states. which you evidently deny
Who's rejecting anything?

Did Jesus ever STAND on the Mount of Olives as far as we know?
My my we are touchy aren't we?

You still think a husband is a whore. or will you admit the whore is the prostitute the husband sleeps with??
Oh dear......the husband is GOD.

The BRIDE was Israel....and she whored after idolatry. She was a whore.

You are clearly mixed up.

(Isaiah 1:21) How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

Now, please look at that verse and tell me again how that city is not the harlot?

Heres God again (speaking through Ezekiel) talking TO JERUSALEM:

(Ezekiel 16:35) Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD:

(Ezekiel 16:36) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them;


Notice the 'person' that the WHORE commits adultery with is CONSISTENTLY called LOVERS in scripture.

The lover is not the whore, Jerusalem is the whore.

Please stop with your attempted lawyers ducking and diving. This is becoming most embarressing for you.

Thanks.
 
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Who's rejecting anything?

Did Jesus ever STAND on the Mount of Olives as far as we know?
Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull

1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,


WHen were the NATIONS (PLURAL) Arrayed aginst jerusalem? Rome was a nation. Not nations?

And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.


When titus destroyed Jerusalem. No one was left. so when did this happen?



3 Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.


When was this battle fought by the lord himself?



4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.

When did this happen?

Come on man. We don;t take one verse and ignore the rest of the passage! Of course jesus stood on the mount. But he did not do what this prophesy said he will do!

Oh dear......the husband is GOD.

The BRIDE was Israel....and she whored after idolatry. She was a whore.

You are clearly mixed up.

(Isaiah 1:21) How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

Now, please look at that verse and tell me again how that city is not the harlot?

Heres God again (speaking through Ezekiel) talking TO JERUSALEM:

(Ezekiel 16:35) Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD:

(Ezekiel 16:36) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them;


Notice the 'person' that the WHORE commits adultery with is CONSISTENTLY called LOVERS in scripture.

The lover is not the whore, Jerusalem is the whore.

Please stop with your attempted lawyers ducking and diving. This is becoming most embarressing for you.

Thanks.
No actually it is embarrasing for you.

Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD. Thus the whore was destroyed? if it was jerusalem.

The city became a harlot back then because they practiced harloty in the city. They even sacrificed to pagan gods in the temple. They acted just like the true harlot. from which the sacrifice came from. The jerusalem temple became a pegan temple. is this happening today? where is the pagan temple where these sacrificial masses are taking place?

It was not destroyed in 70 AD because of harlotry. It was destroyed because they chose the law over Christ.

try studying history.

now again. How can the harlot be the cheating wife or husband? and second. Who is a greater harlot. Rome and her pagan ritual which has worldwide scope and murdered many saints for over 1000 years. Or jerusalem. Which has no real influence.

Do you really think jerusalem is going to giuve power to a roman emporor?
 
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Yikes! the verbs and nouns are mutating.
 

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Originally Posted by Strangelove

The issue is not WHO, the issue is you changing the words of scripture to suit your dispology.

Where does it say His feet will LAND?



You still think a husband is a whore. or will you admit the whore is the prostitute the husband sleeps with??
Just to add to this.....

(Rev 17) The beast is being ridden by a whore (impure). If the beasts are world-wide powers, who is the whore? Rev 12 presents a woman as a symbol of a religious organization (church). An impure woman, then, represents a religious body that holds false doctrines. Scripture portrays the beast being ridden by an impure woman, a whore. She is dressed in purple and scarlet (clergy colors???) and drunk with the blood of saints. She holds a wine-cup of abominations: her false doctrines. (Remember the inquisition/persecution of Christians, etc. Drunk with blood of the saints, means they have killed more than anyone, that they are literally "drunk with the blood")
 
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Oh, and The Book of Daniel says Rome is the last Kingdom involved in the end of times! - The modern version of Babylon.
 
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WHen were the NATIONS (PLURAL) Arrayed aginst jerusalem? Rome was a nation. Not nations?
Rome was an EMPIRE that was made up of armies of many different nations.

When titus destroyed Jerusalem. No one was left. so when did this happen?
When did what happen?

What are you waiting to SEE exactly?

When was this battle fought by the lord himself?
Jesus fought a spiritual battle. A literal one.

He split the mountain (kingdom) in two when he challenged the pharisees power. Some pressed into the new covenant, others remained dead in their sins. Is this too spiritual for you?

Come on man. We don;t take one verse and ignore the rest of the passage! Of course jesus stood on the mount. But he did not do what this prophesy said he will do!
He did spiritually.

No actually it is embarrasing for you.

Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD. Thus the whore was destroyed? if it was jerusalem.
Oh I see you are way too proud to admit defeat, so yer gonna go down swinging. So be it.

My friend, mud and brick is not the whore. The city symbolises that people who fornicate. It represents pharisaical judaism with their traditions that cancel out Gods Word. The mud and brick was destroyed. The system of talmudic judaism began to flourish in opposition to Christianity, the only biblical religion.

The city became a harlot back then because they practiced harloty in the city.
Is this supposed to be an admission? Before you were saying Jerusalem was not an harlot. Now, when presented with irrefutable scripture you act like this is what you were saying all along. This is intellectual dishonesty.

They even sacrificed to pagan gods in the temple. They acted just like the true harlot. from which the sacrifice came from. The jerusalem temple became a pegan temple. is this happening today? where is the pagan temple where these sacrificial masses are taking place?
Oh boy....still trying to say theres a different TRUE harlot? THE HEBREWS were the harlot and they fornicate with the LOVERS.
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Paganry is alive and kicking in orthodox judaism. They even have a moon goddess called shekinah. They swing a chicken around their head and impute their sins to it before slaughter.

It was not destroyed in 70 AD because of harlotry. It was destroyed because they chose the law over Christ.

try studying history.
No they chose their own TRADITIONS (self idolatry) over Gods Holy law.

The Hebrews and their city of abominations is the WHORE. Same story today.

now again. How can the harlot be the cheating wife or husband?
Because God said so. A cheating wife is an adultress whore. Ezekiel called Jerusalem a harlot. Is Ezekiel a false prophet?

If my wife cheated on me and I wanted to call her the worst name in the world, I would call her a whore.

God didnt call the LOVER a whore, He called His adulteress bride a whore. Stings dunnit? A lover is not married to God and doesnt know anything about the marriage and is therefore not knowingly commiting adultery. Therefore cannot be the whore. Jerusalem is the whore.

and second. Who is a greater harlot. Rome and her pagan ritual which has worldwide scope and murdered many saints for over 1000 years. Or jerusalem. Which has no real influence.


TALMUDIC JUDAISM


FREEMASONRY, COMMUNISM, ADL HATE LAWS (marxist socialism), CONTROL OF WORLD FINANCE, CONTROL OF MEDIA ETC

Roman Catholics

A bunch of old fuddy duddy's in big hats playing temple.

Do you really think jerusalem is going to giuve power to a roman emporor?
Why is that necessary?
 

zone

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Oh, and The Book of Daniel says Rome is the last Kingdom involved in the end of times! - The modern version of Babylon.
it says Rome is the last kingdom PERIOD.

but that the 10 toes of iron are mixed with clay.

this is the Caesars and the Herods.

but there is another Kingdom in the eschaton (Rev 17): it is the last kingdom smashed by the Stone cut without hands (iron & caly) REVIVED.

Rome & Jerusalem.
 
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Just to add to this.....

(Rev 17) The beast is being ridden by a whore (impure). If the beasts are world-wide powers, who is the whore? Rev 12 presents a woman as a symbol of a religious organization (church). An impure woman, then, represents a religious body that holds false doctrines. Scripture portrays the beast being ridden by an impure woman, a whore. She is dressed in purple and scarlet (clergy colors???) and drunk with the blood of saints. She holds a wine-cup of abominations: her false doctrines. (Remember the inquisition/persecution of Christians, etc. Drunk with blood of the saints, means they have killed more than anyone, that they are literally "drunk with the blood")
Scripture says Jerusalem is responsible for ALL the righteous blood of the saints and the prophets.

Her priests also wear purple and scarlet.

But Rome is such a great DECOY aint she?

Thats why the Talmudists set her up.
 

zone

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Scripture says Jerusalem is responsible for ALL the righteous blood of the saints and the prophets.

Her priests also wear purple and scarlet.

But Rome is such a great DECOY aint she?

Thats why the Talmudists set her up.
Doc: why do the pope and the cardinals wear the kippa?
love zonus
 

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ya.
so one question is, which came first - Vatican City or Jerusalem?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ya.
so one question is, which came first - Vatican City or Jerusalem?
That depends. . The question is who is the one who is modern day babylon. Roman mythology was the babylonian cult. It is what had power. And still does.

Jeruslaem has really never had power. It was destroyed in 70 AD as you said. and if the "zionists" or "Talmuds" as people are putting it is modern day cult. Then rome was around LONG before these zionists took over jerusalem.


so if we want to see who came first. the vatican how power for how many years before these zionists came to jerusalem?

it all comes to interpretation. (I say this because I am sure someone will say jerusalem was arounf long before the vatican, ignoring the fact Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 ad, and there were no zionist cults in jerusalem until after the 50's
 

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I disagree. The question is who is the one who is modern day babylon. Roman mythology was the babylonian cult. It is what had power. And still does.

Jeruslaem has really never had power. It was destroyed in 70 AD as you said. and if the "zionists" or "Talmuds" as people are putting it is modern day cult. Then rome was around LONG before these zionists took over jerusalem.
they took over Rome first.
where do you think they went after 70AD?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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they took over Rome first.
where do you think they went after 70AD?
so your telling me all the "mother of God worship" the "pagan temples" the "sacrificial ablusions for forgiveness of sin done by the priest" the "virgin women of the temple" the " the pegan holidays for fertility and winter solstice done in worship of tammuz (easter and christmas) . The sacrificial mass in the temple. the praying to mothers sisters and brothers of the gods. The penance of the priests. The belief in purgatory, The idol worship. this all came from the zionists in jerusalem who went to rome after jerusalem was destroyed, and was not there long before the jews even got there?
 

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so your telling me all the "mother of God worship" the "pagan temples" the "sacrificial ablusions for forgiveness of sin done by the priest" the "virgin women of the temple" the " the pegan holidays for fertility and winter solstice done in worship of tammuz (easter and christmas) . The sacrificial mass in the temple. the praying to mothers sisters and brothers of the gods. The penance of the priests. The belief in purgatory, The idol worship. this all came from the zionists in jerusalem who went to rome after jerusalem was destroyed, and was not there long before the jews even got there?
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BABYLONIAN TALMUD:
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html


by Michael Hoffman - RAISED jewish: now CHRISTIAN.


Hoffman's Judaism Slideshow PREVIEW
Hoffman's Judaism Slideshow PREVIEW - YouTube
 

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so your telling me all the "mother of God worship" the "pagan temples" the "sacrificial ablusions for forgiveness of sin done by the priest" the "virgin women of the temple" the " the pegan holidays for fertility and winter solstice done in worship of tammuz (easter and christmas) . The sacrificial mass in the temple. the praying to mothers sisters and brothers of the gods. The penance of the priests. The belief in purgatory, The idol worship. this all came from the zionists in jerusalem who went to rome after jerusalem was destroyed, and was not there long before the jews even got there?
Take a look at a Jewish calendar.

Spot any babylonian paganry?

And talking about zionism is a strawman. The Mother of Harlots is apostate Hebrewism, which circumnavigates Gods law with oral traditions. TALMUDISM. These guys INVENTED the game dude. They made the first system to EVER go against Gods Law. They are the MOTHER system. They went awhoring after idols, cheating on God.

Pagans never cheated on God. They were never betrothed to Him. They were simply the LOVERS of apostate Israel, the harlot bride, just as scripture describes.
 
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1 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”
3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns.

6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

The woman is described as a prostitute and she's described as committing adulteries. If you don't divorce this text from the OT covenant language, it's pretty easy to see who the harlot and prostitute is. It's Israel! The OT describes Israel as God's wife. Who else could prostitute and adulterate themselves from God? This is clearly speaking of Israel who had killed the prophets, Jesus and even the Christians.


Notice the link between the prostitute and the 'kings of the earth' and the beast.

The Jews joined with the Romans, who at that time were like the kings of the Earth, they joined with them to crucify Jesus and persecute the church. Read the gospels and Acts. This link is undeniable.
 
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That depends. . The question is who is the one who is modern day babylon. Roman mythology was the babylonian cult. It is what had power. And still does.

question: its kind of off topic but I've been wondering why does the English literature classes teach Greek and Roman mythology but disallows the reading of the Bible in the schools?

In high school I knew more about Zeus, Athena, etc then Jesus through public education. It might be because I took Latin but still....

I was reading up on the history of education and when schools first started the Bible was required reading text but now... mmmm...