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Here's an interesting opinion from a RC poster on another forum about taking Scripture both in and out of context (with a bit of a twist 
). In many ways, I believe that a big part of what he says is a correct (and a surprisingly honest) assessment of the matter (when speaking of how Protestants and Catholics interpret certain parts of the Bible). For instance, he says that,
~Deuteronomy
). In many ways, I believe that a big part of what he says is a correct (and a surprisingly honest) assessment of the matter (when speaking of how Protestants and Catholics interpret certain parts of the Bible). For instance, he says that,
"In context Scripture is Protestant
Out of context Catholic"
To make a couple of things clear, 1. this poster is indeed, RC (though he believes that the RCC has been apostate since 1960 and Vatican II), and 2. his thread "title" is not quite as heretical (blasphemous) as it sounds at first blush.~Deuteronomy
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Here's an interesting opinion from a RC poster on another forum about taking Scripture both in and out of context (with a bit of a twist ). In many ways, I believe that a big part of what he says is a correct (and a surprisingly honest) assessment of the matter (when speaking of how Protestants and Catholics interpret certain parts of the Bible). For instance, he says that,
~Deuteronomy
). In many ways, I believe that a big part of what he says is a correct (and a surprisingly honest) assessment of the matter (when speaking of how Protestants and Catholics interpret certain parts of the Bible). For instance, he says that,
"In context Scripture is Protestant
Out of context Catholic"
To make a couple of things clear, 1. this poster is indeed, RC (though he believes that the RCC has been apostate since 1960 and Vatican II), and 2. his thread "title" is not quite as heretical (blasphemous) as it sounds at first blush.~Deuteronomy
I mentioned elsewhere that i've come to understand that the Apostiles are the original Protestants that's why i don't see denominations as right or wrong.
It's also linked to how i view Salvation which means that i don't send people to Hell if they disagree with me. I believe in the Theology of Theosis which says that God will judge where people go, not me or any other mortal.
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To be fair, the Catholic apologists (e.g. see the link below) who I've encountered over the years would not agree with the assessment above in post #7 (IOW, "in context = Protestant/out of context = Catholic") though I think that if they were truly being honest, I don't know how they could avoid such an assessment (concerning 10-15% of what the RCC teaches, that is).
~https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/figuring-out-the-bible
~https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/figuring-out-the-bible
Yes, this part is linked to tradition which is also something that's very important in the Orthodox Church too.
Tradition is important but i think that the Church has put too much emphasis on it.
For example, before there was a Bible, there was a Church and The Word spread through word of mouth before it was written.
However that doesn't mean that we need to super-glorify the role of a mother, which is a tradition in the Mediterranean region such as Greece or Italy.
Here's an example of the Orthodox Chuch basics:
Teachings of the Orthodox Church - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America (goarch.org)
At least they're honest there by saying "Tradition" as opposed to pulling something from the Bible and building a church around it.
Tradition is important but i think that the Church has put too much emphasis on it.
For example, before there was a Bible, there was a Church and The Word spread through word of mouth before it was written.
However that doesn't mean that we need to super-glorify the role of a mother, which is a tradition in the Mediterranean region such as Greece or Italy.
Here's an example of the Orthodox Chuch basics:
Teachings of the Orthodox Church - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America (goarch.org)
At least they're honest there by saying "Tradition" as opposed to pulling something from the Bible and building a church around it.
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Hello @Eli1, I know that both the RCC and the EOC continually claim to be "God's one, true church", but I believe that the EOC may be somewhat closer to being correct about that because they seem to hold far more closely to their ancient "traditions" than the RCC does (which claims their Magisterium's new teachings, understandings or "living traditions" are actually apostolic, that they have, therefore 1. always existed, but 2. were never fully understood until recently ... or, when that doesn't work, simply claim the leading of the Holy Spirit instead, even when such a "leading" sinks and buries His written teachings in the word of God ).
I also believe (as you seem to be saying above too) that the EOC has a far better balance between their traditions and the Bible (interestingly, I've heard a number of detailed Biblical "sermons" from the EOC, while the RCC seems content to stick with its 10-minute weekly "homilies" instead .. IOW, the Bible seems to be much more of a focus for the EOC).
Just to be clear, I don't believe that either one of these two, visible churches is the "one, true church", of course!
God bless you!!
~Deuteronomy (David)
p.s. - I find it interesting that the Jews, even today, hold to both a written AND an oral Torah that they believe were both delivered to Moses by God at the same time. Of course, we NEVER see that teaching in the Bible from the Lord (about the Jews' oral traditions, that is). Rather, He points out many of the falsehoods of their oral teachings while always pointing to the written OT as authoritative. Perhaps it would behoove the RCC and the EOC to consider that fact (though I'm certain that they, sadly, never will).
).I also believe (as you seem to be saying above too) that the EOC has a far better balance between their traditions and the Bible (interestingly, I've heard a number of detailed Biblical "sermons" from the EOC, while the RCC seems content to stick with its 10-minute weekly "homilies" instead .. IOW, the Bible seems to be much more of a focus for the EOC).
Just to be clear, I don't believe that either one of these two, visible churches is the "one, true church", of course!
God bless you!!
~Deuteronomy (David)
p.s. - I find it interesting that the Jews, even today, hold to both a written AND an oral Torah that they believe were both delivered to Moses by God at the same time. Of course, we NEVER see that teaching in the Bible from the Lord (about the Jews' oral traditions, that is). Rather, He points out many of the falsehoods of their oral teachings while always pointing to the written OT as authoritative. Perhaps it would behoove the RCC and the EOC to consider that fact (though I'm certain that they, sadly, never will
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