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If this thread was put togather in defence of the NAR than i have a question.
Why are the leaders in this group in secret societies? you know kaballah, occultic,
freemasony societies? I spose they all need exposed some more. Since they have
goals to take over the church worldwide, may as well get to know them more.
Maybe the thread wasnt a defense, but its good to have more exposure anyway. :)
 
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THE ROOTS AND FRUITS OF THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

....This article explores the idea of apostles in the church throughout church history. In it I will show that the restoration/Latter Rain idea that fuels the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is unbiblical and dangerous to the well-being of Christians who become part of it. First we will review how the early church understood apostles in church history. Then we will examine the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching about apostolic authority. From there we will examine the ideas of a 17th-century mystic given new life in the Latter Rain movement, and now the NAR.

At a 1996 Fuller Seminary conference hosted by C. Peter Wagner, a movement that Wagner previously labeled “post-denominational” became the New Apostolic Reformation. [1] Besides Wagner himself is another person prominent in the movement—Bill Hamon—who is strongly endorsed by Wagner. Hamon is important, as we will see, because his ministry goes all the way back to the early 1950’s and began on the heels of the Latter Rain Movement.....

THE ROOTS AND FRUITS OF THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION : Apprising Ministries
 
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OK one at a time....look these guys over. Rick Joyner...Knights of Malta

The History of the Knights of Malta

“Blessed Gerard originally founded “The Hospice of St. John of Jerusalem” prior to the 1st Crusade to care for sick and poor pilgrims in Jerusalem. In 1120, after Pope Urban II issued a Bulla recognizing the Hospice as a military religious order, the Order became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem”. Its members became known as “Knights of St. John”, “Knights of the Hospital” or simply “Knights Hospitallers”. Later, after the capture of Rhodes, the Order’s name became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem and of Rhodes”. The knights of that period were known as “The Knights of Rhodes”, as well as by their previous names. After the loss of Rhodes, the Order came into possession of the Island of Malta. The Order’s name then became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta”. After the loss of Malta the name of the Order became “The Sovereign Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta”. Since that time, the members have since been referred to most commonly as “The Knights of Malta”, however, they may still be referred to as “Knights of St. John”, “Knights of the Hospital” or “Knights Hospitaller”. The Order is now typically referred to as “The Sovereign Military Order of Malta”, “The Order of Malta”, or the “SMOM”. . .

The following quote is from: An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences,” etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty-Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95:

“This Order, which at various times in the progress of its history received the names of Knights Hospitalers, Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of Rhodes, and lastly, Knights of Malta, was one of the most important of the religious and military orders of knighthood which sprang into existence during the Crusades which were instituted for the recovery of the Holy Land. It owes its origin to the Hospitalers of Jerusalem, that wholly religious and charitable Order which was established at Jerusalem, in 1048, by pious merchants of Amalfi for the succor of poor and distressed Latin pilgrims….

“…There are now two bodies-one Catholic and the other Protestant, but each repudiates the other….

“The degree of Knight of Malta is conferred in the United States as “an appendant Order” in a Commandery of Knights Templar. There is a ritual attached to the degree, but very few are in possession of it, and it is generally communicated after the candidate has been created a Knights Templar….”

The Knights of Malta are the militia of the Pope, and are sworn to total obedience by a blood oath which is taken extremely seriously and to the death. The Pope as the head of the Vatican is also the head of a foreign national power.

As a member of the Knights of Malta, and by virtue of your blood oath of obedience to the Pope, you are required to support to the death the desires of the head of the Order of the Knights of Malta-in this case, Pope Benedict XVI -over and above any other allegiance you may feel or pretend to feel toward any other loyalty-such as a loyalty to the Constitution for the united States of America.

Those who are presently members of the Knights of Malta must on penalty of death support those policies advocated by the Vatican. It is not hard for them to do this. They BELIEVE in these policies and principles. The polices which are espoused and proclaimed by the office of the Pope are as follows:

1. End of sovereignty for the United States and other countries.
2. End of absolute property rights.
3. End of all gun rights.
4. The new international economic Order (world government).
5. The redistribution of wealth and jobs.
6. Calls for nations to trust the United Nations.
7. Total disarmament.
8. Promote the United Nations as the hope for peace.
9. Promote UNESCO, the deadly educational and cultural arm of the United Nations.
10. Promote interdependence.
11. Support sanctions honoring Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin-the New Age Humanist Priest.
12. Support the belief that the economic principle of traditional Christian or Catholic social doctrine is the economic principle of communism.
13. Promote the Pope as the acting go-between for the United States and the Soviet Union.

It doesn’t really matter what kind of religious or political affiliation a member professes, when they take an oath as a Knight they are obligated by that blood oath of obedience to follow the political lead of the Vatican and will do so to their dying breath-as all good Knights of Malta do. Their first loyalty is to the Vatican, anything else is secondary. Each and every member is under complete and total obedience to the Vatican’s political ambitions.

The Order of Malta has ambassadors or diplomatic representatives in more than eighty nations, and enjoys Permanent Observer status at the United Nations General Assembly.”

It is a known fact that Rick Joyner is very focused on warfare and the Knights of the Roundtable. Here is a quote from Joyner:

“Like the nation of Israel, the Order of St John the Baptist seems to have been uniquely preserved to play a part in the final battle between light and darkness. The church, and even Western civilization, is no less in jeopardy today than it was in the time of Suleiman. Conflicts within the church have weakened her to the point that she is more vulnerable to the enemy than ever. Even so, the Lord is not constrained to deliver by many or by few. He still has those who are true noblemen, who are establishing noble families throughout the earth. They are bound together by a common faith that transcends denominational differences. They, too, have vowed not to retreat before the enemies of the cross, nor yield a single acre of ground to the enemy of our faith.

The Lord is again calling together true knights of the Spirit. They will stand unified in spite of all the petty divisions and spiritual wars that go on around them. They know who the real enemy is, and they, too, will stand without wavering against the greatest darkness of their times, and they will push the darkness back. Some of these are in the modern Order of St John. Some of them may be in your church. One of them may even be you.” (pg 58, end of author’s text)

A picture of the present Grand Master with his various titles covers page 59 of the book.

This is only a tiny bit. I will go back into this later showing Rick Joyners teachings from his books and you will see this man is
a newage occultist. But I want to show the oath He took and afirms. And you decide if this man is an Apostle of Jesus Christ.



The Oath of the Knights of Columbus, Knights of Malta and Rhodes Scholars is based upon the Oath of the Jesuits

(This is an extract of the Congressional Record of the House of Representatives dated February 15, 1913, where the oath is entered as purported to be of the Knights of Columbus).



"I, ............, now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus rounded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the III and continued to the present, do by the womb at the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness the Pope, is Christ's vice regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given His Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of ray power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, and Norway and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere, and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome."

"I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince, or State, named Protestant or Liberals, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates, or officers."

"I do further declare that the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same."

"I do further declare that I will help assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland, or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise."

"I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they intrust me and not divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing, or circumstances whatever but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me by you my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order."

"I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatsoever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ."

"That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever is communicated to me."

"I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex, or condition, and that will hang, bum, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the wails in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same can not be done openly, I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus."

"In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever."

"That I will in voting always vote for K. of C, in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly."

"That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics."

"That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope."

"All of which I, ............, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this, my oath."

"In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament."

More on Rick Joyner later
 

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Unfortunately we live in a time that is the perfect feeding ground for these deluded souls and wolves to feast upon. We live in a generation of experience driven spiritual enthusiasts. Our churches are filled with people who are no longer content with the plain teaching of the Bible. Today’s Americanized Christian wants direct immediate (current) revelation from God, not some dry exegesis of Scripture or some sermon on Law and Gospel. No today’s spiritual seeker looks for direct immediate mystical fellowship with God. It is not unusual for people attending prophetic congregations to be slain in the spirit (5) and get up later and share with the others how they had just spent “face time” with Jesus, mano-a-mano in heaven....

....America has given birth to almost all of today’s recognized false-prophets. One of the most dangerous is “Dr.” Bill Hamon, one of the living fathers of the P.M.

Even though throughout the recorded history of the Bible God has sent less than 60 people total, 48 men and 7 prophetesses. That is all it took God in order to reveal His will to His people

However, Mr. Hamon has great news for the world!

"John came in the power and spirit of the PROPHET Elijah. Just as one PROPHET, John the baptist prepared the way for Christ’s first coming, now a COMPANY OF PROPHETS will prepare the way for Christ’s second coming. That COMPANY OF PROPHETS is being raised up in the 1980’s. God revealed to me that there are 10,000 PROPHETS on the North American continent alone being prepared to be released within the Church. This COMPANY OF PROPHETS will come forth in the power and spirit of Elijah. They as a corporate body of PROPHETS, will fulfill the prophecy of Malachi in relation to Christ’s second coming as John the Baptist fulfilled it in relation to Christ’s first coming. A single PROPHET prepared the way for the Messiah of Israel and Redeemer of mankind. The COMPANY OF PROPHETS will prepare the way for Jesus the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The one PROPHET prepared the way for Jesus to come and usher in the Church Age; the many PROPHETS will prepare the way for Jesus to come and usher in the Kingdom age. (8)...




This brings us to the very important question of authority. Under whose authority do these people operate? There are only three sources of authority: (1) God, (2) man, and (3) the devil. If they were from God then they would teach His Word accurately which they clearly do not do. Secondly, when they speak in the name of the Lord what they say would be 100% accurate every time. The first mistake would disqualify one from every speaking again (that is N.T. grace; the O.T. was death for the false prophet).

There are books, audio cassettes, videos and internet transcripts of all of the major “prophets” of today making false and unfulfilled prophetic claims in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

....
end notes:

8 Hamon, Bill Prophets and Personal Prophecy, Destiny Image 1987. Underlining added.

14. Hamon, Jordan, Bickle [IHOP], Joyner all offer some form of prophetic education in and by their schools of the prophets. They seem to believe that if one is called to be a prophet, then they can be trained by other prophets. They argue both sides of the coin (1) we all can prophesy 1 Cor. 14:1, so we can learn how to do so or (2) obviously we cannot train one to prophesy who is not first called by God as a prophet, ergo any prophetic “failure” falls on the prophet not the school or the teacher. So these liars can take either side when challenged and they do.

Bill Hamon Discernment Ministries International
 

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OK one at a time....look these guys over. Rick Joyner...Knights of Malta

The History of the Knights of Malta

“Blessed Gerard originally founded “The Hospice of St. John of Jerusalem” prior to the 1st Crusade to care for sick and poor pilgrims in Jerusalem. In 1120, after Pope Urban II issued a Bulla recognizing the Hospice as a military religious order, the Order became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem”. Its members became known as “Knights of St. John”, “Knights of the Hospital” or simply “Knights Hospitallers”. Later, after the capture of Rhodes, the Order’s name became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem and of Rhodes”. The knights of that period were known as “The Knights of Rhodes”, as well as by their previous names. After the loss of Rhodes, the Order came into possession of the Island of Malta. The Order’s name then became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta”. After the loss of Malta the name of the Order became “The Sovereign Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta”. Since that time, the members have since been referred to most commonly as “The Knights of Malta”, however, they may still be referred to as “Knights of St. John”, “Knights of the Hospital” or “Knights Hospitaller”. The Order is now typically referred to as “The Sovereign Military Order of Malta”, “The Order of Malta”, or the “SMOM”. . .

The following quote is from: An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences,” etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty-Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95:

“This Order, which at various times in the progress of its history received the names of Knights Hospitalers, Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of Rhodes, and lastly, Knights of Malta, was one of the most important of the religious and military orders of knighthood which sprang into existence during the Crusades which were instituted for the recovery of the Holy Land. It owes its origin to the Hospitalers of Jerusalem, that wholly religious and charitable Order which was established at Jerusalem, in 1048, by pious merchants of Amalfi for the succor of poor and distressed Latin pilgrims….

“…There are now two bodies-one Catholic and the other Protestant, but each repudiates the other….

“The degree of Knight of Malta is conferred in the United States as “an appendant Order” in a Commandery of Knights Templar. There is a ritual attached to the degree, but very few are in possession of it, and it is generally communicated after the candidate has been created a Knights Templar….”

The Knights of Malta are the militia of the Pope, and are sworn to total obedience by a blood oath which is taken extremely seriously and to the death. The Pope as the head of the Vatican is also the head of a foreign national power.

As a member of the Knights of Malta, and by virtue of your blood oath of obedience to the Pope, you are required to support to the death the desires of the head of the Order of the Knights of Malta-in this case, Pope Benedict XVI -over and above any other allegiance you may feel or pretend to feel toward any other loyalty-such as a loyalty to the Constitution for the united States of America.

Those who are presently members of the Knights of Malta must on penalty of death support those policies advocated by the Vatican. It is not hard for them to do this. They BELIEVE in these policies and principles. The polices which are espoused and proclaimed by the office of the Pope are as follows:

1. End of sovereignty for the United States and other countries.
2. End of absolute property rights.
3. End of all gun rights.
4. The new international economic Order (world government).
5. The redistribution of wealth and jobs.
6. Calls for nations to trust the United Nations.
7. Total disarmament.
8. Promote the United Nations as the hope for peace.
9. Promote UNESCO, the deadly educational and cultural arm of the United Nations.
10. Promote interdependence.
11. Support sanctions honoring Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin-the New Age Humanist Priest.
12. Support the belief that the economic principle of traditional Christian or Catholic social doctrine is the economic principle of communism.
13. Promote the Pope as the acting go-between for the United States and the Soviet Union.

It doesn’t really matter what kind of religious or political affiliation a member professes, when they take an oath as a Knight they are obligated by that blood oath of obedience to follow the political lead of the Vatican and will do so to their dying breath-as all good Knights of Malta do. Their first loyalty is to the Vatican, anything else is secondary. Each and every member is under complete and total obedience to the Vatican’s political ambitions.

The Order of Malta has ambassadors or diplomatic representatives in more than eighty nations, and enjoys Permanent Observer status at the United Nations General Assembly.”

It is a known fact that Rick Joyner is very focused on warfare and the Knights of the Roundtable. Here is a quote from Joyner:

“Like the nation of Israel, the Order of St John the Baptist seems to have been uniquely preserved to play a part in the final battle between light and darkness. The church, and even Western civilization, is no less in jeopardy today than it was in the time of Suleiman. Conflicts within the church have weakened her to the point that she is more vulnerable to the enemy than ever. Even so, the Lord is not constrained to deliver by many or by few. He still has those who are true noblemen, who are establishing noble families throughout the earth. They are bound together by a common faith that transcends denominational differences. They, too, have vowed not to retreat before the enemies of the cross, nor yield a single acre of ground to the enemy of our faith.

The Lord is again calling together true knights of the Spirit. They will stand unified in spite of all the petty divisions and spiritual wars that go on around them. They know who the real enemy is, and they, too, will stand without wavering against the greatest darkness of their times, and they will push the darkness back. Some of these are in the modern Order of St John. Some of them may be in your church. One of them may even be you.” (pg 58, end of author’s text)

A picture of the present Grand Master with his various titles covers page 59 of the book.

This is only a tiny bit. I will go back into this later showing Rick Joyners teachings from his books and you will see this man is
a newage occultist. But I want to show the oath He took and afirms. And you decide if this man is an Apostle of Jesus Christ.



The Oath of the Knights of Columbus, Knights of Malta and Rhodes Scholars is based upon the Oath of the Jesuits

(This is an extract of the Congressional Record of the House of Representatives dated February 15, 1913, where the oath is entered as purported to be of the Knights of Columbus).



"I, ............, now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus rounded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the III and continued to the present, do by the womb at the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness the Pope, is Christ's vice regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given His Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of ray power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, and Norway and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere, and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome."

"I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince, or State, named Protestant or Liberals, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates, or officers."

"I do further declare that the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same."

"I do further declare that I will help assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland, or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise."

"I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they intrust me and not divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing, or circumstances whatever but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me by you my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order."

"I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatsoever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ."

"That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever is communicated to me."

"I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex, or condition, and that will hang, bum, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the wails in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same can not be done openly, I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus."

"In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever."

"That I will in voting always vote for K. of C, in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly."

"That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics."

"That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope."

"All of which I, ............, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this, my oath."

"In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament."

More on Rick Joyner later
SERIOUS?

WOW. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS that BAD.
and we got churches saying this guys is A PROPHET FOR CHRIST?:(
SPARE ME!
and how many will see these things and STILL defend them??:mad:

good post Abiding. i hadn't seen this before.

~

JOHN .F.KENNEDY(the speech they killed him for)

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60 Trends ‘expected’ with the Full Restoration of Apostles and Prophets

from:
Sola Dei Gloria
My Journey
pj miller


Here’s one from the E-List for you to dig into. Its after 4am so I’ll toss my comments in tomorrow.

The author of the list below heads up something called the Impact Network, and as you can see at his website, he works along side Wagners NAR network.

Posted under “Our Vision”-

To identify, develop, publicly recognize through ordination, and release emerging apostles and prophets that God is raising up in the nations of the world for this New Apostolic Reformation.

From, Elijah List, “60 Trends that will Emerge with the Full Restoration of Apostles and Prophets”
It is imperative that apostles and prophets come into their appointed positions of leadership in the Church. These are governmental gifts that have tremendous authority to execute the plans and purposes of God. In order to do this they must be identified and released.

When apostles and prophets come into their place, the Church will experience great blessing. Individuals must begin to walk in these callings with confidence and boldness. They need to know the functions of their offices in order to execute them faithfully. Clarity and understanding of these gifts and callings will help them to walk in them fully. This includes planting, activating, imparting, and demonstrating the Kingdom of God.

These gifts need to be confirmed and strengthened. The Church will advance and experience great breakthroughs as a result of these gifts coming forth. The saints will experience a new level of perfecting, maturity and release. Fear, ignorance and unbelief will hinder these gifts from coming forth fully. Overcome fear with courage and boldness, overcome ignorance with knowledge and revelation, and overcome unbelief with faith. Apostolic alignment is important in this hour. We must align ourselves with the apostolic and prophetic movement.

The following are 60 trends that I see emerging in the Church with the full restoration of apostles and prophets.

60 Trends that will Emerge with the Full Restoration of Apostles and Prophets

1. A greater emphasis of the importance of signs, wonders, and miracles(especially deliverance). This will prevent the Church from depending too much on rational, intellectual ways of approaching ministry (see 2 Corinthians 12; Matthew 10). Greater demonstrations of the power of God

2. A greater release of revelation and insight into the mysteries of God. Many portions of Scripture will come alive and be relevant for this end-times move

3. Continue to expand the vision and outreach of the Church in order to break complacency, apathy, and limited vision. This includes expanding into new nations and territories. The release of a pioneering (proton) anointing

4. The raising up of new leaders and ministries, confirming, ordaining, and activating new gifts and callings. This will assure a continual supply of new ministries for the expansion of the Kingdom. Increase of emerging apostles and prophets mentored by more seasoned apostles and prophets

5. Enforcement of Biblical standards for leadership, including elders (bishops). This will help to stem the tide of immorality and bad character in leadership. Standards concerning marriage, family, and divorce will be once again emphasized as a standard for leadership

6. Establishing the Kingdom into new regions and territories through church planting. This includes the release of apostolic, church planting teams. Raising up of Antioch churches that will have a sending and releasing mentality

7. Greater emphasis on spiritual warfare, including binding and loosing. Greater authority over territorial strongholds, including principalities and powers

8. Release of greater grace to handle increased persecution and suffering of the Church worldwide.

9. Release of greater boldness to press forward in spite of suffering, persecution, and increased opposition to the message of the Kingdom of God.

10. Release of greater resources for Kingdom advancement, including finances and human resources. Greater release of missionaries, both long-term and short-term, for the expansion of the Kingdom. This includes Kingdom businessmen and marketplace apostles

11. Strengthening of existing churches and confirmation of new churches. This will greatly strengthen the Church worldwide

12. Releasing and maintaining an atmosphere of liberty in the churches that will be conducive for the moving of the Holy Spirit and operation of the gifts of the Spirit, including prophecy

13. Contending with heresy and doctrinal divisions that keep the Church separated and divided. Defending the truth and preventing apostasy from infiltrating the Church.

14. Releasing the saints into their individual destinies and purposes. Releasing churches into their corporate destinies and purposes. Activating Believers into their callings and empowering them to do the works of Jesus Christ.

15. Releasing the spirit of faith in Believers and assemblies for Kingdom exploits. Apostles and prophets help us to believe for supernatural breakthroughs. As power ministers they often operate with the gift of faith and release the spirit of faith. They help destroy and overcome the spirits of doubt and unbelief that hinder the saints from operating in faith. Warning the Church against the dangers of unbelief

16. Releasing the fear of the Lord for greater reverence and respect for the things of God

17. Greater release of the spirit of prayer and intercession. Increased burden for prayer and intercession. The release of prophetic prayer warriors for regions and territories. Restoration of all night prayer, citywide prayer, watch of the Lord, and corporate prayer

18. Encouragement of fasting that releases humility and greater grace (see 2 Corinthians 11:27).

19. Encouragement of individuals and churches to embrace a global vision and sending mentality

20. Emphasis on foundational and important truth that establishes Believers in the faith and prepares them to go to perfection (maturity). Rejection of teachings and any emphasis that are not important and do not matter. Bring redefinition to terms and doctrines that have been taught erroneously.

21. Encourage the baptism of the Holy Spirit as the doorway into the supernatural realm and Spirit-filled living. Emphasize the importance of utterance, including tongues and prophecy, along with impartation and release of these things through the laying on of hands

22. Upgrade of churches and regions into present truth

23. Creation of new wineskins to receive the new wine that is being released from Heaven. Renewing of old wineskins, including denominational structures and churches

24. Bringing reformation and change. Establishing and releasing new models for ministry

25. Helping the churches transition into new moves and patterns for ministry. Apostles are raised up during times of transition (see Joshua 1).

26. Help interpret new moves and validate them Scripturally (see Acts 2).

27. Changing and shifting spiritual climates over regions and territories, causing a new receptivity to the Gospel and the things of the Holy Spirit.

28. Relieving and helping the poor, orphans, and widows. A greater release of good works

29. A greater release of angelic activity through worship to God, prayer, and utterances, including apostolic decrees and prophetic declarations

30. Redigging old wells. Reestablishment and restoration of truth that has been neglected or under-emphasized

31. Greater release of judgments against immorality and sin both within the Church and society. Pronouncement of judgment upon wicked rulers, wicked governments, and wicked religious, economic and political systems

32. Release of greater peace and grace in churches, especially persecuted and suffering churches

33. Release of greater favor for churches with local governments

34. Greater multiplication and church growth through evangelism and discipleship

35. Pulling down of strongholds and ideologies, including humanism, that have kept people from receiving the truth

36. Greater acceleration of the purposes of God worldwide, including the fulfillment of Bible prophecies and prophetic utterances

37. Greater manifestation of God’s glory in the Church, including the manifest presence of God and the restoration of the tabernacle of David

38. Greater release of the prophetic, including personal prophecy, corporate prophecy, prophetic teams and companies, prophets, prophetic worship, arts, dance, banners, and prophetic teaching and preaching. Apostles will encourage the prophetic in local churches and regions

39. Greater clarity and understanding of the purposes of God, including the Great Commission

40. Greater unity and cooperation between leaders and ministries in localities (see Ephesians 4:3).

41. Greater release of women and minorities into ministry and authority. Destruction of spirits of racism and sexism in the Church. Smaller nations and people groups being released into their destinies and redemptive purposes

42. Greater release of small groups through cell structure, releasing more Believers to share their gifts with the Body

43. Greater testimony released in the earth, including martyrdom

44. Greater impact and breakthrough into Jewish and Muslim people and those who have been historically resistant to the Gospel. Historical and generational rebellion will be confronted by apostolic leaders

45. Greater breakthroughs into media for the promotion of the Gospel, including Hollywood.

46. Greater manifestation of demons, hardness of heart as the demonic realm reacts to the advancement of the Church and increased breakthrough

47. Restoration of proper government in the Church, including the restoration of governing presbyteries of apostles, prophets, and teachers. Challenging false government, including congregational and episcopal control

48. Greater emphasis on holiness and righteousness in the Church. This will help stem the tide of worldliness and carnality

49. Greater impartation through the laying on of hands and prophecy. This will accelerate people into their callings and giftings

50. Greater unity and team ministry. This will be especially true of apostles and prophets working together to build, plant and break through. Greater understanding of these gifts will help Believers walk in them accurately and bring greater blessing to the Church. The result will be the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry and the edifying of the Body of Christ as all five ministries are released and work together

51. Establishment and recognition of spiritual gatekeepers and gateway churches that operate in apostolic authority in cities, regions and territories

52. Increase of knowledge and breaking of spiritual ignorance and darkness, including superstition and idolatry

53. Greater breakthroughs in inner cities and areas that have been neglected and abandoned

54. Greater emphasis on justice and righteousness in society. Dealing with unfairness, inequality, racism, and discrimination

55. Greater emphasis on outreach, street ministry, prayer walking. Greater visibility outside of the four walls of the church

56. Greater encouragement to sell all and forsake all for the sake of the Kingdom. More radical conversions and commitment from the saints

57. Greater release of youth and children in salvation, gifts of the Spirit, and ministry

58. Greater release of apostles and prophets, and more ministers step into these callings, being inspired to move into these gifts because of others who have preceded them. The fear and unbelief that have prevented many from walking in these callings will be overcome. The restoration of these gifts means that an abundance of these gifts will be seen in the end-times Church. Multiplied thousands will come forth in different cities, regions, and nations

59. The Church will begin to contend for the faith that was once delivered unto the saints

60. Continuous revival and refreshing released to the Church (see Acts 3:19). This is a result of repentance that comes from the conviction of the Holy Spirit, and this will precede the coming of the Lord (see Acts 3:20). Restoration of all that has been spoken by the prophets

http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/trends-expected-with-the-full-restoration-of-apostles-and-prophets/

~

DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

GET THESE GUYS AWAY FROM YOUR FLOCKS!

 
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And I do not support or oppose flesh perfectionism. But I do oppose those that support it. Wait......lemme try again. I do oppose flesh perfectionism. But I do not support those who support it. Hang on a sec.......one more try. I do not support those who support rather than oppose fles.............ahhhh ..... nevermind. :eek:
The flesh cannot be made perfect is must be crucified.
 
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other prophets like Mahesh Chavda and Paul Cain and Bobby Conner are also known knights of Malta
When I post on these guy later. Make sure you dont have a full stomach or are about to eat, or before bed.
 
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WOW...NARS takin' a beatdown...good work brethren.
 

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Now, Im not speaking against the nar here.
I cannot even begin to understand the many groups and sects spoken to here in bible study.
But it seems to me we are called to follow Jesus, living in Him, looking to Him.
So why do so many seek to allign themselves with one group or another?
Are we not called in Jesus to be children of God ?
To see each other as brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ?
From what I have seen in this forum, it is such allignments that create division.
And Jesus that brings us as one in Him.
Please do not think I am speaking against these groups saying they are all bad.
But , all seems to be about saying something, but I dont see what the point is.
I just wonder why simply looking to the faith, hope and love, living in Jesus is not enough.
But then, maby my ignorance is speaking , and Im a fool. :eek:
Its simply I dont see this or that group here, I only see all who will live eternally in Jesus here.
Maby this is what should always be the goal, Jesus!

If I recall scripture correctly, didnt Paul speak about such alignments ?

In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
 

zone

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Now, Im not speaking against the nar here.
I cannot even begin to understand the many groups and sects spoken to here in bible study.
But it seems to me we are called to follow Jesus, living in Him, looking to Him.
So why do so many seek to allign themselves with one group or another?
Are we not called in Jesus to be children of God ?
To see each other as brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ?
From what I have seen in this forum, it is such allignments that create division.
And Jesus that brings us as one in Him.
Please do not think I am speaking against these groups saying they are all bad.
But , all seems to be about saying something, but I dont see what the point is.
I just wonder why simply looking to the faith, hope and love, living in Jesus is not enough.
But then, maby my ignorance is speaking , and Im a fool. :eek:
Its simply I dont see this or that group here, I only see all who will live eternally in Jesus here.
Maby this is what should always be the goal, Jesus!

If I recall scripture correctly, didnt Paul speak about such alignments ?

In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
the point is we should know by now whether or not God is sending new apostles and prophets today.
it's black & white, yes or no.
 

zone

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good post DF.

Wagner highlighted in red per OP: Re: What the NAR really is:

i do not know why this is such a tough call. what happened to discernment?
 

zone

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WOW...NARS takin' a beatdown...good work brethren.
hey Doc: too late for many churches.
(going to do a post later on the number of "evangelical" churches that have already been taken over)
but never too late for those who love the truth no matter what it costs them.
 
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ok Crowley is creepy but .... I'll keep reading....

hey this sound like someone on CC...

"Peter Wagner says, “This is a year to open the gates. Most of us think that the
gate is a physical place that will appear in front of you. However, the first gate
we must go through is Heaven's Gate! This is where we enter boldly into the
Throne Room and receive super-abounding grace
so we can leap through the
place of the "new" in the earth!”"

http://www.remnantradio.org/Archive...leister Crowley BABALON STARGATE 07-17-10.pdf

seriously??

sorry this passage made the article lose most of its credibility...

"A most strange FSB report is
making its rounds in the Kremlin
today that says over 20 US
Soldiers from the United States Army’s 716th
Military Police Battalion, 101st Airborne Division,
tasked with providing security for the ancient Iraqi
city of Babylon, and based in the Iraqi city of Hilla,
have committed ‘mass suicide’ after their attempt to
‘link’ what is described as an ancient ‘star gate’ to
CERN’s Large Hadron Collider [pictured 2
nd
photo
left], and which is about to begin one of the most
controversial science experiments in human history,
and as we can read:
“The greatest science experiment in the history of
the world, due to begin tomorrow, is imperilled by
bizarre allegations that it will bring about the
cataclysmic end of that very same world.
v
As scientists from around the world prepare to
launch the Large Hadron Collider, a particle
accelerator in Switzerland that aims to recreate the
conditions of the Big Bang and answer some of the
most fundamental questions of the universe,
concerns about the project -- from scientists and
conspiracy-theorists alike --are intensifying."- 2008


well they fired that Hadron Collider and we are still here so what does that tell you?



I think I'm going to go back to reading my Bible now....

however it does make one think if this is the Third wave what did the first two accomplish?
 
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MaggieMye

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Zone speaks against the NAR because she is a cessationist. She does not believe in prophets or apostles for today. She willingly cuts 2/5 of the given offices out of the equation when God does not.
 

zone

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Zone speaks against the NAR because she is a cessationist. She does not believe in prophets or apostles for today. She willingly cuts 2/5 of the given offices out of the equation when God does not.
zone speaks against the NAR because they are FAKE.
and secret society members.

i told you before Maggie, and i'll say it again:

i can't help it that you have been DUPED, went and got your diploma from AoG and Wagner (or part way)....that you believe God is not SPEAKING IN THESE LAST DAYS THROUGH HIS SON, and His scriptures are CLOSED and sufficient.

i can't help it that you made the choices you did.

the NAR are WOLVES, they are Dominionists, and if you refuse to seek for your own sake, that's YOUR PROBLEM.
 

zone

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however it does make one think if this is the Third wave what did the first two accomplish?
the first two primed the pump, and got the church ready to receive these guys.
HOW HARD IS THIS????
 
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60 Trends ‘expected’ with the Full Restoration of Apostles and Prophets

from:
Sola Dei Gloria
My Journey
pj miller


Here’s one from the E-List for you to dig into. Its after 4am so I’ll toss my comments in tomorrow.

The author of the list below heads up something called the Impact Network, and as you can see at his website, he works along side Wagners NAR network.

Posted under “Our Vision”-

To identify, develop, publicly recognize through ordination, and release emerging apostles and prophets that God is raising up in the nations of the world for this New Apostolic Reformation.

From, Elijah List, “60 Trends that will Emerge with the Full Restoration of Apostles and Prophets”
It is imperative that apostles and prophets come into their appointed positions of leadership in the Church. These are governmental gifts that have tremendous authority to execute the plans and purposes of God. In order to do this they must be identified and released.

When apostles and prophets come into their place, the Church will experience great blessing. Individuals must begin to walk in these callings with confidence and boldness. They need to know the functions of their offices in order to execute them faithfully. Clarity and understanding of these gifts and callings will help them to walk in them fully. This includes planting, activating, imparting, and demonstrating the Kingdom of God.

These gifts need to be confirmed and strengthened. The Church will advance and experience great breakthroughs as a result of these gifts coming forth. The saints will experience a new level of perfecting, maturity and release. Fear, ignorance and unbelief will hinder these gifts from coming forth fully. Overcome fear with courage and boldness, overcome ignorance with knowledge and revelation, and overcome unbelief with faith. Apostolic alignment is important in this hour. We must align ourselves with the apostolic and prophetic movement.

The following are 60 trends that I see emerging in the Church with the full restoration of apostles and prophets.

60 Trends that will Emerge with the Full Restoration of Apostles and Prophets

1. A greater emphasis of the importance of signs, wonders, and miracles(especially deliverance). This will prevent the Church from depending too much on rational, intellectual ways of approaching ministry (see 2 Corinthians 12; Matthew 10). Greater demonstrations of the power of God

2. A greater release of revelation and insight into the mysteries of God. Many portions of Scripture will come alive and be relevant for this end-times move

3. Continue to expand the vision and outreach of the Church in order to break complacency, apathy, and limited vision. This includes expanding into new nations and territories. The release of a pioneering (proton) anointing

4. The raising up of new leaders and ministries, confirming, ordaining, and activating new gifts and callings. This will assure a continual supply of new ministries for the expansion of the Kingdom. Increase of emerging apostles and prophets mentored by more seasoned apostles and prophets

5. Enforcement of Biblical standards for leadership, including elders (bishops). This will help to stem the tide of immorality and bad character in leadership. Standards concerning marriage, family, and divorce will be once again emphasized as a standard for leadership

6. Establishing the Kingdom into new regions and territories through church planting. This includes the release of apostolic, church planting teams. Raising up of Antioch churches that will have a sending and releasing mentality

7. Greater emphasis on spiritual warfare, including binding and loosing. Greater authority over territorial strongholds, including principalities and powers

8. Release of greater grace to handle increased persecution and suffering of the Church worldwide.

9. Release of greater boldness to press forward in spite of suffering, persecution, and increased opposition to the message of the Kingdom of God.

10. Release of greater resources for Kingdom advancement, including finances and human resources. Greater release of missionaries, both long-term and short-term, for the expansion of the Kingdom. This includes Kingdom businessmen and marketplace apostles

11. Strengthening of existing churches and confirmation of new churches. This will greatly strengthen the Church worldwide

12. Releasing and maintaining an atmosphere of liberty in the churches that will be conducive for the moving of the Holy Spirit and operation of the gifts of the Spirit, including prophecy

13. Contending with heresy and doctrinal divisions that keep the Church separated and divided. Defending the truth and preventing apostasy from infiltrating the Church.

14. Releasing the saints into their individual destinies and purposes. Releasing churches into their corporate destinies and purposes. Activating Believers into their callings and empowering them to do the works of Jesus Christ.

15. Releasing the spirit of faith in Believers and assemblies for Kingdom exploits. Apostles and prophets help us to believe for supernatural breakthroughs. As power ministers they often operate with the gift of faith and release the spirit of faith. They help destroy and overcome the spirits of doubt and unbelief that hinder the saints from operating in faith. Warning the Church against the dangers of unbelief

16. Releasing the fear of the Lord for greater reverence and respect for the things of God

17. Greater release of the spirit of prayer and intercession. Increased burden for prayer and intercession. The release of prophetic prayer warriors for regions and territories. Restoration of all night prayer, citywide prayer, watch of the Lord, and corporate prayer

18. Encouragement of fasting that releases humility and greater grace (see 2 Corinthians 11:27).

19. Encouragement of individuals and churches to embrace a global vision and sending mentality

20. Emphasis on foundational and important truth that establishes Believers in the faith and prepares them to go to perfection (maturity). Rejection of teachings and any emphasis that are not important and do not matter. Bring redefinition to terms and doctrines that have been taught erroneously.

21. Encourage the baptism of the Holy Spirit as the doorway into the supernatural realm and Spirit-filled living. Emphasize the importance of utterance, including tongues and prophecy, along with impartation and release of these things through the laying on of hands

22. Upgrade of churches and regions into present truth

23. Creation of new wineskins to receive the new wine that is being released from Heaven. Renewing of old wineskins, including denominational structures and churches

24. Bringing reformation and change. Establishing and releasing new models for ministry

25. Helping the churches transition into new moves and patterns for ministry. Apostles are raised up during times of transition (see Joshua 1).

26. Help interpret new moves and validate them Scripturally (see Acts 2).

27. Changing and shifting spiritual climates over regions and territories, causing a new receptivity to the Gospel and the things of the Holy Spirit.

28. Relieving and helping the poor, orphans, and widows. A greater release of good works

29. A greater release of angelic activity through worship to God, prayer, and utterances, including apostolic decrees and prophetic declarations

30. Redigging old wells. Reestablishment and restoration of truth that has been neglected or under-emphasized

31. Greater release of judgments against immorality and sin both within the Church and society. Pronouncement of judgment upon wicked rulers, wicked governments, and wicked religious, economic and political systems

32. Release of greater peace and grace in churches, especially persecuted and suffering churches

33. Release of greater favor for churches with local governments

34. Greater multiplication and church growth through evangelism and discipleship

35. Pulling down of strongholds and ideologies, including humanism, that have kept people from receiving the truth

36. Greater acceleration of the purposes of God worldwide, including the fulfillment of Bible prophecies and prophetic utterances

37. Greater manifestation of God’s glory in the Church, including the manifest presence of God and the restoration of the tabernacle of David

38. Greater release of the prophetic, including personal prophecy, corporate prophecy, prophetic teams and companies, prophets, prophetic worship, arts, dance, banners, and prophetic teaching and preaching. Apostles will encourage the prophetic in local churches and regions

39. Greater clarity and understanding of the purposes of God, including the Great Commission

40. Greater unity and cooperation between leaders and ministries in localities (see Ephesians 4:3).

41. Greater release of women and minorities into ministry and authority. Destruction of spirits of racism and sexism in the Church. Smaller nations and people groups being released into their destinies and redemptive purposes

42. Greater release of small groups through cell structure, releasing more Believers to share their gifts with the Body

43. Greater testimony released in the earth, including martyrdom

44. Greater impact and breakthrough into Jewish and Muslim people and those who have been historically resistant to the Gospel. Historical and generational rebellion will be confronted by apostolic leaders

45. Greater breakthroughs into media for the promotion of the Gospel, including Hollywood.

46. Greater manifestation of demons, hardness of heart as the demonic realm reacts to the advancement of the Church and increased breakthrough

47. Restoration of proper government in the Church, including the restoration of governing presbyteries of apostles, prophets, and teachers. Challenging false government, including congregational and episcopal control

48. Greater emphasis on holiness and righteousness in the Church. This will help stem the tide of worldliness and carnality

49. Greater impartation through the laying on of hands and prophecy. This will accelerate people into their callings and giftings

50. Greater unity and team ministry. This will be especially true of apostles and prophets working together to build, plant and break through. Greater understanding of these gifts will help Believers walk in them accurately and bring greater blessing to the Church. The result will be the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry and the edifying of the Body of Christ as all five ministries are released and work together

51. Establishment and recognition of spiritual gatekeepers and gateway churches that operate in apostolic authority in cities, regions and territories

52. Increase of knowledge and breaking of spiritual ignorance and darkness, including superstition and idolatry

53. Greater breakthroughs in inner cities and areas that have been neglected and abandoned

54. Greater emphasis on justice and righteousness in society. Dealing with unfairness, inequality, racism, and discrimination

55. Greater emphasis on outreach, street ministry, prayer walking. Greater visibility outside of the four walls of the church

56. Greater encouragement to sell all and forsake all for the sake of the Kingdom. More radical conversions and commitment from the saints

57. Greater release of youth and children in salvation, gifts of the Spirit, and ministry

58. Greater release of apostles and prophets, and more ministers step into these callings, being inspired to move into these gifts because of others who have preceded them. The fear and unbelief that have prevented many from walking in these callings will be overcome. The restoration of these gifts means that an abundance of these gifts will be seen in the end-times Church. Multiplied thousands will come forth in different cities, regions, and nations

59. The Church will begin to contend for the faith that was once delivered unto the saints

60. Continuous revival and refreshing released to the Church (see Acts 3:19). This is a result of repentance that comes from the conviction of the Holy Spirit, and this will precede the coming of the Lord (see Acts 3:20). Restoration of all that has been spoken by the prophets

http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/trends-expected-with-the-full-restoration-of-apostles-and-prophets/

~

DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

GET THESE GUYS AWAY FROM YOUR FLOCKS!

Zone, some of the emphasis that are made in this list of 'trends' is certainly applicable for the church and to the church and should not be dismissed or blamed just because of a movement. If you put these out, with the wording and terminology that has been made defining these trends and you condemn and warn others of each one of them as you have, then anything that God does within the church and the work done in the heart of every believer that relates to any of these terms would be suspect and rejected because of the label that you have placed upon it.

For example:

#8. Release of greater grace to handle increased persecution and suffering of the Church worldwide.

This is very true as to what God provides not only when we sin but when we live godly lives (2Tim 3:12).

Acts 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

Without the apostles and prophets present in the church, great grace (or greater grace), upon those that believe, would still be the witness to the body of Christ of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, so greater grace can not be discounted as a witness, or as a sufficiency and supply (Eph 4:7,15,16, Phil 1:9, 4:19) or as that which much more abounds when sin abounds (Rom 5:20,21). Greater grace is what God supplies in all these things and it is His testimony to the body of Christ of the resurrection life that is in His Son that every member of His body has been baptised unto at salvation (Rom 4:25, 6:4, Col 2:12 ).